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touchbambi

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I just found out I'm pregnant. I can't be more than about 6 weeks along, but maybe less. I haven't been very sober over the last 6 weeks though. I'm mostly concerned about my MDMA use. I used twice, about .5 grams each use. I guess I'm asking for any opinions, experiences, or research to help make my decision to put the baby up for adoption or to terminate this pregnancy. What would you do?
 
It sounds to me like the OP just found out about the pregnancy and is concerned about the well-being of the child, no need for such hostility.

Honestly, it can't be good for the baby but I don't believe there is enough research to come to any sort of a conclusion about the extent of the damage. Early in a pregnancy, if your body doesn't abort the child then generally the child will be okay. Its later in development that causes problems. Definitely talk to a doctor though, you'll need to have the pregnancy monitored closely because drug use tends to make them more complicated.
 
I just found out I'm pregnant. I can't be more than about 6 weeks along, but maybe less. I haven't been very sober over the last 6 weeks though. I'm mostly concerned about my MDMA use. I used twice, about .5 grams each use. I guess I'm asking for any opinions, experiences, or research to help make my decision to put the baby up for adoption or to terminate this pregnancy. What would you do?

Hi touchbambi,

This is kind of a difficult situation. There have been animal studies in the past that showed prenatal exposure to MDMA led to tremors and neurological deficiencies in the babies after birth. This prompted human studies to be conducted to see how exposure to MDMA in the mother can affect fetal neurological development. Here are links to a couple abstracts of a relatively recent prospective study:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22387807

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22908109

In this study, they prospectively looked at 28 pregnant, poly-drug using women who had used MDMA during the first-trimester of pregnancy, and compared them to 68 pregnant, poly-drug abusing women who had NOT used MDMA during pregnancy. The then examined the babies after delivery after 1 and 4 months. They found that the babies who had been exposed to MDMA during pregnancy had poorer motor scores and lower attainment of developmental milestones at 4 months. They then re-examined these babies at 1 year, and found persistently poorer motor development in the babies that had been exposed to MDMA during pregnancy,and that the degree of this impairment was predicted by the amount of MDMA that the mother used during pregnancy. They did not find any deficits in language or emotional development however.

Of course, despite this being a prospective study, it wasn't fully controlled and several confounding variables may have influenced the results. For example, in the MDMA using group of mothers, there was an increased incidence of health, work, and social problems compared to the control group. This may have been related to the MDMA use, or it may be unrelated to MDMA use and independently contributed to the result of poorer motor development in the babies of that group.

What makes the situation difficult is that I am not aware of any screening tests during pregnancy that could screen for MDMA damage to the fetus, whether it be imaging studies or laboratory markers obtained from specimens such as amniotic fluid. Thus, it may be impossible to tell whether your baby could be affected by your MDMA use. I think a lot of the decision-making comes down to you, based on how much MDMA you used during the last 6 weeks, and what your values and expectations are. I definitely think you should see your obstetrician and probably a specialist in Maternal-Fetal Medicine to help you better gauge the risks to your baby, and whether completing the pregnancy at this time is a good option.

Best of luck. PM me if you need further access to research or more info, and I'll try to help you with what I can.
 
Altho testing only confirms the presence of MDMA or MDA, it doesn't definitely confirm that there's nothing else in it... So not sure why testing even matters much in this case... Seems like if it were any other drug this fetus would be better off lol
 
Just avoid all drugs from now on and focus on your pregnancy. There's nothing you can do about it now anyway.
 
I personally know somebody that used MDMA at around 2-4 weeks of pregnancy
NOT knowing she was
The baby came out fine
The baby is about to graduate college on the Deans list

Just saying
 
At what doseage... will you be there to care for the kid if it has problems... be careful with your advice, I am not saying that did not happen I am saying that you have no clue what damage it caused... just saying

You're right that we don't what damage it might have caused, but we also don't know if it didn't actually change anything at all.

If anything was damaged the baby would have developed issues pretty quickly. Considering they're all the way in college now, I think it's safe to say the MDMA didn't cause any problems.
 
No one really knows Hun, very hard to say. Abortion vs adoption is a very personal issue and I wouldn't dare try to sway u one way or another it's your choice. I grew up in a buncha foster homes and stuff and it wasn't bad, had some very good foster parents most times. If your gonna keep using though then idk really but if u stop now(not easy) then u limit any damage, if any, that's already been done. No matter what u do don't get down on yourself or dwell on it that'll really tear u up. Maybe it's a good time to reevaluate your life, boyfriend, choices, environment etc. might be able to make something positive out of a negative which doesn't sound to bad to me. Good luck with everything and god bless..
 
Today I go an ultrasound and I'm only about 6 weeks along. I figured out I took mdma on the 2nd week and the 4th week of my first trimester. Tomorrow I have a phone appointment with a doctor and plan to ask him if he thinks any damage was done. I wouldn't dare use again while still pregnant... tbh even if he thinks the baby will come out fine, I still dono what the fuck I'm going to do.

Maybe it's a good time to reevaluate your life, boyfriend, choices, environment etc. might be able to make something positive out of a negative which doesn't sound to bad to me. Good luck with everything and god bless..
I think you may be right. Something has got to change. Thank you for your kind words.
 
Today I go an ultrasound and I'm only about 6 weeks along. I figured out I took mdma on the 2nd week and the 4th week of my first trimester. Tomorrow I have a phone appointment with a doctor and plan to ask him if he thinks any damage was done. I wouldn't dare use again while still pregnant... tbh even if he thinks the baby will come out fine, I still dono what the fuck I'm going to do.


I think you may be right. Something has got to change. Thank you for your kind words.

Touchbambi,

This will be a decision that you have to make, based on the information available and your values. Nobody else can really make it for you. The ultrasounds and other screening methods will even probably come back normal, as any major neural tube deficits during neurulation in the first several weeks of pregnancy that would be picked up by an ultrasound would likely not be the kind of damage MDMA causes. Rather, the type of damage it may cause would more likely be along the lines of cellular damage to neuroprogenitor cells in an area of the developing brain called the germinal matrix in the subventricular zone. MDMA has been shown to injure rapidly dividing cells, such as lymphoma cells, likely through DNA mediated damage causing chromosomal damage via free radicals. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21850491) For this reason, MDMA has been proposed as an anti-cancer agent, and in this case may similarly damage rapidly dividing neuroprogenitor cells in a fetus. This possibly MAY (or may not) show up as subtle changes seen in an ultrasound or in-utero MRI study when the brain is more anatomically developed in the third trimester of pregnancy. However, by then it may be too late to get an abortion.

After speaking to your doctor about his opinion of any possible damage and after doing your own medical research about the possibility of MDMA harming the fetus, you will have to make your own best guess as to what is best for you and the baby. If I had to be placed in your situation, I would analyze the situation as follows: if the doctor finds no obvious damage based on tests performed throughout your pregnancy, and the baby is still born with a neurological problem, then I or any doctor would not ever know if my baby's neurological condition was caused by my MDMA use or not. Perhaps the neurological condition was due to cerebral palsy unrelated to the MDMA, or perhaps secondary to chromosomal or genetic abnormality that would have occurred anyway regardless of the MDMA. Or perhaps it was because of the MDMA. I would spend my life never knowing if my baby's problems were my fault. Would I be able to handle this unanswered question? As the baby grows up and turns into a child and has difficulty walking or other motor problems, could I live with myself knowing that maybe, just maybe I was the cause of this? As the child grows into an adult, and his/her capacity to integrate into the social and professional world is limited by his/her handicap, could I bear the burden of knowing that by some chance, regardless of how small, I put this person who is now suffering into this world because of my stupid decision to do some drugs a couple times during pregnancy?

This is the analysis that you need to perform, based your personality and your values. Even if you assume that the chance of the baby having problems is small, you have predict how you will cope if that small chance happens and the baby has a neurological problem, never knowing if was because of the MDMA or something else. Would you beat yourself up forever wondering the answer to that question? Would you eventually forgive yourself if you assumed it was because of the MDMA?

P.S. Your doctor may not know anything about MDMA induced damage to a fetus, because most doctors are clueless about the damage MDMA can cause in humans, much less a fetus. I would print out the relevant articles and take them to a Maternal-Fetal Medicine specialist. You two can then decide the risk/benefits together.

I'm writing all this because I can imagine this is a painfully hard decision, and I wish you the best.
 
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Its the first month, 90% of the time he child will be fine. Just be clean from now on. My wife and i did 25i before we found out she was pregnant and our son is fine. In fact he is demonstrating high levels of learning.

The 1st month is a mulligan IMO.
 
not that related to the topic, but here's one of my favourite movies, ever:
4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days

It happens to be about abortion in 1980s Romania, where abortion was illegal.

I can't give away anything else without spoiling part of the story. If you're interested, I implore you to check it out! Lots of torrents available, not sure about Netflix.
 
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It's not good to take MDMA while pregnant, but it probably won't do your child too much harm either.
 
At what doseage... will you be there to care for the kid if it has problems... be careful with your advice, I am not saying that did not happen I am saying that you have no clue what damage it caused... just saying

The dose was probably 150-200MG
The child is beautiful, healthy, smart
The dose happened at least 2-3 weeks into the pregnancy.
No behavior problems,etc.
I was trying to ease the mind of touchbambi
 
The dose was probably 150-200MG
The child is beautiful, healthy, smart
The dose happened at least 2-3 weeks into the pregnancy.
No behavior problems,etc.
I was trying to ease the mind of touchbambi

I've actually heard a few stories now about drug use in the first trimester turning out fine. It does help.

Reading about both tabaco and alcohol use during the first trimester being not such a big deal kinda puts me at ease too. With so few and poorly controlled studies done on the topic of MDMA during pregnancy, I feel like I shouldn't base my decision on them too greatly.

Even though I am pro-choice, trying to schedule an abortion is making me very depressed. I read online women who have abortions typically feel relived. I am not necessarily where I wanted to be in life when I finally became pregnant... but I feel like ANY option besides abortion would be better for me and the baby. Altho now I need to find another forum about adoption... I wonder if anyone would even take the chance of adopting a baby who was exposed to drugs in the first trimester.
 
I've actually heard a few stories now about drug use in the first trimester turning out fine. It does help.

Reading about both tabaco and alcohol use during the first trimester being not such a big deal kinda puts me at ease too. With so few and poorly controlled studies done on the topic of MDMA during pregnancy, I feel like I shouldn't base my decision on them too greatly.

Even though I am pro-choice, trying to schedule an abortion is making me very depressed. I read online women who have abortions typically feel relived. I am not necessarily where I wanted to be in life when I finally became pregnant... but I feel like ANY option besides abortion would be better for me and the baby. Altho now I need to find another forum about adoption... I wonder if anyone would even take the chance of adopting a baby who was exposed to drugs in the first trimester.

Just because you are pro choice doesn’t mean getting an abortion will be easy for you. Many women that are pro choice choose to keep the baby and put it up for adoption because that’s the best CHOICE for them. Abortion is an extremely difficult thing to go through for many women and some depression is most likely to be expected. On the other hand, some women don’t find it difficult at all and go on with their life like nothing happen.

It’s not an easy thing to go through and that’s why it’s stressed that people use birth control unless they are ready to get pregnant. What's done is done though, no point dwelling on it. At the end of the day nobody can tell you what the best option for you is. You have to weigh ALL of your options and come to the best conclusion that you can. Don’t think for a minute that opting to have the baby and put it up for adoption makes you any less pro choice though, it’s your choice to make and that’s what it’s all about.
 
Why take risks? I honestly recommend you get an abortion.

Since it doesn't seem like your pregnancy was planned, you're probably not ready for a child yet.

If you do not terminate your pregnancy, will you definitely put it up for adoption? You may not have to raise him but its adopters will have to deal with any potential health issue.

Your well-being and that of the baby should both be taken into consideration. If you get an abortion, you MAY have to deal with depression, but if you do keep the baby and it has health issues, it may suffer for the rest of its life. Having a learning disability is definitely not fun. I'm not saying it will definitely be affected by the MDMA, but the risk is present.

Good luck :)
 
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