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LSD and the mothers who don't "get it"

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blackmetalstoner

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Tonight me and my mom talked for the first time in year where we both actually listened to each other. She's know about my addictions for a long time but specifics were a bit blurry. The one thing that I couldn't explain tho was my love of psychedelics. Trying to explain it to my mother, it sounded more like I was insane and left her more confused and scared of the drug. I tried to explain ego softening, told her about the trip that changed my direction in life. Btw I attribute my recovery from meth, opioid pain killers, barbiturates and alcohol all the eye opening experiences from psychedelics. The problem is, I understand what these drugs do, very very well. Im just really bad at explaining it. For instance when asked about ketamine the only thing I could really come up with was "it's kinda like getting drunk then doing a bit of heroin." Well of course that person thought the fact that I did ketamine was fucking stupid and they never touched it. So can someone please give me a general explaintion of the POSITIVE effects of LSD. No need to scare my mother with horror stories of bad trips. Also maybe some more scientific reasons of why the drug isn't dangerous if taken with the respect it deserves. A thing to keep in mind, my mom never been high. Ever. On anything. She's been drunk.. Like 5 times in her 48 years of living. So this is all very foriegn to her.
 
She just simply views all drugs as equivalent with one another.
There have been a lot of negative myths spread about psychedelic use, LSD especially, and depending on her age she might have been more predisposed to the late 60's and 70's anti-LSD propaganda.
Of course this still persisted through the 80's up until the present day but has lessened much so in comparison to then.
People seriously viewed psychedelics as evil substances that make people crazy, hell if I had absolutely no experience with illicit drugs and I saw someone going through a seriously bad and psychotic bad trip it wouldn't be hard for me to make that association; extremely high doses of psychedelics can produce schizophrenic like symptoms in users, psychologists have even reportedly used high dose LSD themselves to try to better understand the mind state of the patients they were treating.

I'd just let it be, if she knows about your drug use then that's all you can do, trying to force her to believe makes it seem to her like you're trying to justify your addictions.
Having your parents be disappointed in you because of your drug use sucks, trust me I know this from experience, but try not to let it bother you.
Especially if you're a fully independent adult then what they think of you only hurts if you let it.
 
Why are insisting she be on-board with you in this matter?
have her google it and check out Wikipedia and read about in there...?
 
This is a wonderful post, thank you for sharing. It seems to me the most practical approach would be to focus on the phenominal existential benefits of psychedelics.

Best wishes now and always.
 
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Its really hard to explain how drugs work to people who is naturally against them. I would just let her be, and discuss the topic only if she's willing to understand.
 
A lot of religions prosthelytize. If you consider your psychedelics to be your religion...or better said as a reflection of your spirituality...it is normal to want your friends and loved ones to be on board. Those who follow other non-abrahamic religions such as atheism, veganism, and socialism, are some of the most vocal prosthelytizing folks out there. Just saying. ?
 
^only seems like that to folks that have an innate aversion to non-abrahamic religions. I can't seem to recall the last time an athiest knocked on my door randomly and tried to get me to believe something for which there is zero evidence for.

I have the same problem with my mother OP, I have a bad history with opioids and I've tried to lecture her about how psychedelics are special. To them its all drugs though. And I think their age makes it very hard for them to ever view something differently. Especially if they have been religiously brainwashed into believing there is something inherently evil about drug use.

Trying to convince your mom that some drugs are worthwhile is like trying to convince her jesus didn't rise again on the third day.

She will eventually accept you for it and try to have a real relationship with you despite not liking your drug use....or you will grow apart are rarely speak anymore. The latter is what has happened with me. Its your life to take drugs as you wish and somebody asking you to give that up in order to have a relationship with them loves themselves more than they love you. Sure they will tell you its because they love you and don't want you to hurt yourself or destroy your life...and if you are doing that then they are right. But someone that won't accept a person that smokes pot and drops acid now and then...they are the ones being unreasonable
 
I am not sure if my mom agress with my views on drugs or turns a blind eye. I think its a mixture of both. Weve had the long drawn out talks about drugs from coke to psychedelics. Ive espoused the positive life changing affects, while she has witnessed the debilitating blackout downside (thanks xanax and alcohol).

I think at this point my mother just loves me and is happy I am here at all. She will take me however I come. Actually typing this makes me realoze how lucky I am to still have that love after allllllll the crazy shit my family has been through. I just try to be worthy of the love and return it as best I can. For a fucked up life I guess I got it pretty good :) even a few more relatives who give a fuck despite not completely understanding why I insist on Tripping The Light Fantastic, even after pretty negative results.

Its a christmas miracle. Ho ho ho. I will ungrinch my heart just you wait and see;-)
 
The reason I want my mom to try to understand what these drugs do is because she doesn't know me. The last 4 years of my life have been completely hidden from my family. In the last year thing got to a breaking point where l wasn't able to hide the new mounting drug problems. I lost control stole things, sold almost everything I own, and lost 2 jobs. Both due to drug problems. I can honestly say the only reason I'm not doing crystal meth anymore is because I ate a 10 strip smoke(my last) bag of dope and had took off on the hardest trip of my life. Both LSD and Psilocybin have drastically changed pathes I was taking in my life. For her to understand what's happened I feel it would help to know what it can do and that Im not just to strung out son
 
phuckingnutz said:
have her google it and check out Wikipedia and read about in there...?
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Wait, did drug users just adopt Tumblr-style Identity Politics? ("IT'S NOT MY JOB TO EDUCATE YOU!!!!!1!" #fucksoberpeople).

He wants to make his mom understand, because she's (understandably) skeptical about what to her is just another illegal drug bringing about a radically positive change.

I guess the best you could attempt would be to show her some article about recent uses of psychedelic psychotherapy. Explain to her how psychedelics aren't about seeing colourful imagery and going "faaar our maaaan", but rather about how they can cause a highly emotional state where past preconceptions matter little and you are able to re-examine your priorities and draw new conclusions.
While some of these conclusions can be highly distressing, you were already at rock bottom, so you felt it was worth the risk as your past priorities were, basically, shit. You could also argue that if you were to see a therapist now, some of the revelations from your trip might be good starting points for productive therapy sessions.
 
I think you should just pick up the pieces of your existing relationships without introducing DRUGS as a topic.
Life was life before DRUGS and will be life for all of your family whether or not DRUGS are in your life for your own private purposes.

Only do Psychedelics for your own personal exploration, it is private and should remain so unless you need to go to a rehab, which is what all straight people are going to think first and most fore-mostly. If you do DRUGS and make it part of your journey, you have to accept that it is not part of everyone else's journey, so do not force it into their awareness.

You are who you are with or without drugs. Let your family enjoy you - but don't challenge them with strange religions, crazy politics, sexual interests, or drugs. Be interesting, but not too strange for them, love them as they are, and be kind to both yourself and to them through what you chose to share.
 
blackmetalstoner said:
The reason I want my mom to try to understand what these drugs do is because she doesn't know me. The last 4 years of my life have been completely hidden from my family. In the last year thing got to a breaking point where l wasn't able to hide the new mounting drug problems. I lost control stole things, sold almost everything I own, and lost 2 jobs. Both due to drug problems. I can honestly say the only reason I'm not doing crystal meth anymore is because I ate a 10 strip smoke(my last) bag of dope and had took off on the hardest trip of my life. Both LSD and Psilocybin have drastically changed pathes I was taking in my life. For her to understand what's happened I feel it would help to know what it can do and that Im not just to strung out son
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This makes me cry. After 10 years of agony I lost my son to oxy/meth a few days ago. I am so happy for you. Most importantly you have each other. Treasure every moment. Thank you for sharing, and for being here with us.
 
^^^^^^

That statement wont hold true for everyone. I cannot seperate myself from "the drugs". The pot and psychedelics are such a big part of my identity as im 40 and have been using them religiously all my life. I dont even want to know who I am without them. And its the same with my opiate use...which has been a part of me since before i got turned on to pot and psychedelics.

Just sayin...for mgself and myself...i am the drugs i take.
 
I'm sorry to hear that. Of course what happened to me doesn't happen to me, but it gave me the insight I needed to see that everything was fucked and it was me and meths fault. I lost everything to that drug except the girl who was asleep beside me the night j was tripping. I never thought you could quit for someone else, but Id also never met someone who would put up with everything I had do to them. everyone else was gone and I knew she would be soon too. So I stopped


And to the last comment I understand what you're saying, I do. As long as the person you are with those things is good then who cares. A lot of drugs have changed the way the person I am. I never thought I'd be the same without Xans and dope. And im not. But that change was for the better for me. I couldn't control it like some people can
 
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mr peabody said:
This makes me cry. After 10 years of agony I lost my son to oxy/meth a few days ago. I am so happy for you. Most importantly you have each other. Treasure every moment. Thank you for sharing, and for being here with us.
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Feels sent your way. <3

Are you a drug user yourself, or are you on this board to try and better understand your son?
 
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