Thanks guys for your advice, I really want to stay away from the IV side, but had read people saying they had good results through plugging it? Is this true and if so what's the best way (doses etc) to do that, as I've said I've only ever snorted my opioids, so am at a loss what plugging is. Also will snorting not have a positive effect? I know Palladone was removed in the USA back in 2005? But we still get it here, anyway if someone knows what's the best dose to plug or snort to start with? It would have been a great help, thanks again guys, it's good of you to take the time to give me some "real" advice, rather than be constantly told you need to get off that shit, when they have no clue what real pain is and don't have to walk around daily with virtually no discs in between my vertebrae and crippling arthritis in the bottom of my back. The pain is like someone burning you from the inside, slowly Turning from a dull sort of constant pain, within a few hours, too having clenched teeth and almost crying with pain. Last one guys anyone have any idea of a stronger opioid I could try to get my doctor to look at? Thanks again Blofeld