Heroin IV Heroin

[TheGoodGuy]

So this is the fourth drug forum I will try and ask my questions on because everyone refused to help me on the other site,
I think harm-reduction is better than "just say no" but clearly people don?t.

I am going to IV heroin for the first time because I have an undiagnosed eating disorder that effects my esophagus so I can?t insufflate or smoke it,
and I have had no problems with my throat after anesthesia when I got operated in my throat. And also when I plugged MDMA it didn?t give me the usual problems in my throat, so iv it is.

#1 Erowid says use 5-10mg for normal dose does this sound reasonable to a guy with no tolerance?
I know I should start with other opiates like pills but I can?t swallow pills due to my condition and I already have the heroin.So is 5-10mg reasonable?

#2 Also when cooking up the mixture (heroin + citric acid) should I draw it up in the syringe immediately after boiling it and then let it cool,
or let it cool first? Because I need to let the solution cool before injecting right, otherwise I would be injecting a near boiling liquid solution into my bloodstream. Please help with these questions please.

I have also already read this guide https://drugs-forum.com/data/attachment-files/2007/04/223897_127113689491399416.pdf
and also dozens of other posts.

 

[Kulvis]

Is it tar or powder? If its powder just dissolve it in water. As for dosing, its impossible to know what potency your drugs are. So when testing an unknown product always use very small amount and go from there. Since you never iv you should have no problem getting registers from veins. Lastly, filter the solution using a micron if you have it, cotton ball if not. Be safe and have fun. Always remember, start small, it could be what saves your life.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

Is it tar or powder? If its powder just dissolve it in water. As for dosing, its impossible to know what potency your drugs are. So when testing an unknown product always use very small amount and go from there. Since you never iv you should have no problem getting registers from veins. Lastly, filter the solution using a micron if you have it, cotton ball if not. Be safe and have fun. Always remember, start small, it could be what saves your life.

It?s brown heroin #3 so I will have to dissolve it with citric acid. But I was just wondering when adding the cotton ball at the end doesn?t it contaminate the solution since the cotton isn?t sterile? And should I add the cotton after boiling or boil the cotton with, because I have seen videos where people does both.

I am leaning towards 10mg maybe a bit less so I don?t think it will be too much, do you? I have no tolerance.

Also should I be fasting prior to injecting, to avoid throwing up. I was thinking fasting 5 hours, since back when I got operated on I fasted for 6 hours prior to the anesthesia. Btw thanks for your reply

 

[traybuck]

I always throw my cotton in at the end with no issues

 

[traybuck]

And yes definitely don't eat for a bit first...Seen to many people throw up after the first time

 

[Kulvis]

Cotton ball at the end. As for your dose Nobody knows what strength your drugs are. Your drugs could be a vastly different potency than anyone elses, so as mentioned start small and go from there.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

Thanks guys I truly appreciate your help.

Any other advice you think I should know? Is there something fun to do while under the influence or am I just going to lay there and enjoy the rush; I like to do stuff on drugs.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

Is there any reason you are choosing IV over plugging?

Yes, a year ago I plugged MDMA and got the shits for a few hours even though I did an enema prior and the bathroom smelled like shit. Unlike most males I don?t find plugging "gay" I was amazed of how easy it was to insert the drug with a lube shooter. But due to all the shitting I don?t want to do it again.

 

[Kulvis]

Your gonna feel good so you are basically just gonna want to do the stuff you normally enjoy.

 

[Kulvis]

A couple suggestions, if you smoke make sure you got lots of cigs. You may get hiccups so have lots of water handy. Whatever you do, do not watch porn, it just simply wont work trust me. Sweets are always nice, ice cream and or candy.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

Thanks for the advice but I am not going to smoke it since I have a genetic problem with my throat, that is why I don?t want to smoke or snort it (also I can?t snort heroin #3)

Since I have a problem with my throat I probably won?t be eating, but ice cream might be good then I will get some calories too, I just hope I won?t throw up as it seems to happen to a lot of people who iv heroin.

 

[dirzted]

Sorry to ruin the party buttttt...
None of the reasons you cited REMOTELY justifies you IV'ing heroin, given you obviously have no knowledge of how to do so correctly, and can thus easily irreversibly damage your health by doing so without proper experience.

Getting the shits for a couple hours after plugging a different drug ONCE is not nearly enough information to know that you will do so again... additionally, heroin is constipating, so it makes that scenario even more unlikely. Not to mention that getting the shits is a lot better than missing a vein, hitting an artery, getting a blood clot, or getting an infection.

Not trying to be mean or patronizing, I tried IV'ing heroin without even looking online first and failed miserably (so I'm way stupider than you), I just mean to passionately reinforce the fact that you have not demonstrated in the least that IV'ing is the most apt ROA for you to try.

Please consider other methods of administration, and the idea that maybe you don't need to go through this to heal your pain (physical or mental).

 

[TheGoodGuy]

Sorry to ruin the party buttttt...
None of the reasons you cited REMOTELY justifies you IV'ing heroin, given you obviously have no knowledge of how to do so correctly, and can thus easily irreversibly damage your health by doing so without proper experience.

Getting the shits for a couple hours after plugging a different drug ONCE is not nearly enough information to know that you will do so again... additionally, heroin is constipating, so it makes that scenario even more unlikely. Not to mention that getting the shits is a lot better than missing a vein, hitting an artery, getting a blood clot, or getting an infection.

Not trying to be mean or patronizing, I tried IV'ing heroin without even looking online first and failed miserably (so I'm way stupider than you), I just mean to passionately reinforce the fact that you have not demonstrated in the least that IV'ing is the most apt ROA for you to try.

Please consider other methods of administration, and the idea that maybe you don't need to go through this to heal your pain (physical or mental).

I have read so many threads you wouldn?t believe, DOZENS! And I have read this whole guide. https://drugs-forum.com/data/attachment-files/2007/04/223897_127113689491399416.pdf I am not concerned with missing a vein or hitting an artery because I intend to iv in my hand where my veins are visible and an artery has a puls so that is easy to avoid. I will of course also pull back to see if I have indeed hit a vein. I am confident it will go fine I mean it?s not rocket science, of course there is a lot to read up on but it?s just administrating a shot. I am no stranger to needles either since several of my friends use steroids and I have tried shooting IM before (B12 vitamin) and MT2. I know iv is a lot different I mean there are doctors who?s sole purpose is to locate veins but still it?s "just" iv.

And I am not trying to heal any pain, I just want to try it out. I am also very thankful that Kulvis have helped me with some answers because it is because of preachers like you that it?s impossible to find decent info on harm-reduction when iv?ing heroin. Seriously with every post about iv heroin there might be only 1 comment with some decent info and the rest is just people preaching their "just say no" campaign. I think I am very responsible since I have read that whole guide plus other guides (megathreads) about iv heroin and dozens of other thread on several forums and experiences on for example Erowid. I am not the sort of guy who just gets the idea and do it right away, I have been considering this for a few years and I feel that I am ready now. And I am doing it in 10 days time so I am not rushing it. BTW dirtzed I am sorry if I come off as an asshole since you?re just trying to protect me it?s just very frustrating to see these comment over and over again with the same shit again and again.

Further more I have one more question. I read some days ago about what sterile water should be used and I can?t find it, I think it said it shouldn?t be sterile salt water if I remember correctly. But sterile water always have that 0.9% alcohol in it or something like that right? I was originally going to just boil some water but if I can get my hands on sterile water I will be using that for sure, I just need to know what kind.

 

[MrRoot]

0.9% NaCl solution from pharmacy is what you are needing. It is sterile and can be bought in small or large bottles and no one cares if you buy it from pharmacy as it is used to wash wounds for example.

 

[tacodude]

This is the worst idea possible... What do you hope to gain? If you like it you're going to develop a straight addiction... Not just depending, but addiction. If you don't like it then why bother? You're literally throwing your life away. Take this from someone who's injected heroin on and off for years trying to manage chronic pain. Just don't fucking do it as you'll regret it when you do need it

 

[TheGoodGuy]

Thanks MrRoot I will try and find that.

tacodude: I am not you. I have read many threads and I have seen several people mention that they have iv?ed it once and liked it but didn?t become addicted. Because it?s all in your mind, you don?t develope a physical addiction right away it is all in your mind, so many people say that "you WILL become addicted after 1 time" I tell you it?s all in your mind. I hope all goes well so I can see for myself because all you people make it seem that 1 time and you?re hooked just like the propaganda. People get iv?ed morphine too in the hospitals and don?t get addicted. I think this video shows pretty much how I feel about addiction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao8L-0nSYzg

 

[Dr. Extract]

You are certainly correct that it's "all in your mind". That is exactly where it starts. When you hold the power in your hand to instantly blast off into sweet, carefree oblivion it flips a switch in your mind. Not saying you'll be instantly addicted, but I almost guarantee that you'll be planning your next high before too long. Then maybe you wait a little while, but you notice you've been thinking about it an awful lot; its smell, the pin prick just before the magic, the taste in your mouth as the rush washes over you. Old junkie wisdom: No one thinks it will happen to them. I'm not trying to dissuade you, I just feel like you should be going into it knowing the realities of playing with the finely tuned endogenous opioid system. If you believe that you are immune to addiction your mind will block it out (the realities of your condition) until you hit rock bottom. On the other hand, if you go into it knowing the full beastly addictive potential of this substance and your vulnerability to said beast, maybe (big unicorn maybe) you can know when to say when.

2 cents.

 

[Help?!?!]

It's the ones that act as if they know that have the most room too fall flat on their face.... Try your best not too. The "slipperyest" of slippery slopes can be....slippery. You'll fall before you even realize your falling... Take care and be safe. IV is not the end all be all, unless you let your mind think it is...

 

[TheGoodGuy]

Everything you wrote might as well be copy and pasted because as I have said many times now, those comment are the only ones there is on iv heroin threads. And I am certainly not immune to addiction I have been very addicted to cannabis in my teens but am now 4 years smoke-free. It?s actually easier for me to handle hard drugs, like cocaine or MDMA. And the feeling you describe with planning your next time I know that feeling. After my 2nd time on real tested MDMA which was one of the best days of my life. I got so my euphoria that I just rubbed my hands up and down my body while moaning it was so pleasurable, and hugging my friend was better than sex and after that night I couldn?t think of anything else but I kept convincing myself to wait at least 6 months and I stuck to that. I have even 1 gram tested MDMA and have had it for months but didn?t want to use it. I have also been over 1 year drug and alcohol free (no addiction) I just wanted to try and see how 1 year without any substances (except for caffeine in coffee I used 2 weeks ago when studying for my last exam) So I think I am in very much control I do drugs I don?t let the drugs do me.

And I have already made a plan to do iv heroin 2 times and that?s it. 2 times if all goes well. I might dose too low the first time like 5-10mg and if I don?t feel anything I will be dosing higher half an hour later, but if I don?t feel anything then I will wait a few days and try again just a higher dose. I actually think I am very responsible. I am also a philosopher so I think about stuff all the time, that was also partly why I wanted to go 1 year without mind altering substances to see if it would benefit my philosophical mind.

 

[Kulvis]

Ok everybody calm down. Hes gonna do it. No matter what anyone says, hes gonna do it anyway. With that out of the way, I think the amount of research hes doing is very responsible. Its an incredibly dangerous habit to get into, and I wish id never done it the first time but the fact remained that nobody was going to stop me from doing it. So being safe as possible well doing it is key at this point. If he comes back in a month and says he cant stop using then we will go from there.