Is it possible to induce transgenderism with drugs?

[Sepher]

O RLY?

Lunchbox, I'm not about to completely dismantle you in public, cos I don't think it would be particularly constructive or all that appropriate to the thread.

You have a PM.

 

[hiphophippy]

Im perfectly fine with my crossdressing (cross-dressing is the expressing inner feminity, TV is the fetish one) and Ive come out to several people who were very cool about it. Im possibly transexual, unsure yet my GP is referring me to a specialist. Its just on GBL I feel a stronger urge to dress. But as someone has said GBL can be quite sexual, and though I don't dress for the sexual thrill, its nice to look nice.

. Transgenderism is not cross dressing, transgwnderism is being the opposite sex. If you were trans you would know.

 

[jessirose]

If you were trans you would know.

- hiphophippy

I would have to agree 100%, but i feel that it is something that can be repressed and hidden from plain sight. You always know on a subconcious level at the very least.

 

[Cloudy]

That isn't true. Crossdressing can be associated with transgenderism. Not all crossdresser are transgenders (those with no desire or feeling of being of the opposite gender), but some transgenders are crossdressers. Granted, when discussing all these alternate gender/sexual identities, a lot of the general definitions associated with classifications are limiting to individual disparities some have from the "definitions" of the classification. Transgenders don't have to dress/"behave"/outwardly express their true gender 24/7. Some transgenders don't even have to ever express their identity outward to the world (even if thats a mirror). Basically a transgender is someone who feels that they, or a part of them, belong as the opposite gender, but may not outwardly show this identity. Transgenderism comprises of transexuals, crossdressers, and other gender identities. So basically, transgender crossdresser, is one that has the desire of being the opposite gender of their biological gender, specifically dressing/becoming that identity for a period of time. If they spent their whole time (essentially permanently) as what they feel is their true identity, is a transsexual. Transsexuals don't necessarily need to want to fully transition, but do live as their desired gender, with no their biological gender absent from their gender identity.


http://ogc.arizona.edu/files/LTJ_NACUA_3-06_Gender_ID_paper-website.pdf This is a decent site that gives pretty good definitions that are pretty open to accomidate the fact that not all gender related differences among humans are not the same. For example, I'm a transgender, but I will express my self more as bi-gender, gender fluid, lesbian male (a fun definition :D ) or a transgender crossdresser. I'm both a male and female (not a intersex; biologically a male and primarily a male at this moment in my life).

Honestly I used to have gender dysphoria as it used to cause me a lot of mental distress. It really effected my life, and could have even attributed to worsening my social skills that are/were effected severely by my ADHD-C (IA>HI) social dysfunctions. In the past 3 years I've started to really accept who I am in this respect, and truly am starting to find being a transgender is quite cool. It gives me another perspective of the world, and opens myself to a completely different world of possibilities that many will never experience. I've started to imagine (I love to day dream) the possibilities of my transgenderism within a relationship with a women (I'm a heterosexual male and a homosexual female). I honestly can not wait till the day the right women comes my way who is open to many different abnormal (not a negative tone) activities. I would love to spend a the day with my SO as her lesbian partner. If we would like (and of course I would, because I love sex), have some fun sexually that many don't experience. I know it won't be really what an observer could consider to be lesbian sex, but from our prospective, that is what it will be.

 

[GoddessLSD-XTC]

i had TS urges long before I even knew TS existed (i'm kinda old), then, when i thought i was over it (didn't think about it for many years) i'm almost 100% certain these Secret Service agents hypnotized me and asked me what i wanted to do. I said, "I want to be a girl." They laughed and said, okay. A few days later, I found a makeup box and started transition. I eventually gave it up again for a few years but the urge overcame me again and I went to Thailand for the surgery. So, the answer to U'r question is yes, drugs and hypnosis can affect crossdressing & TS.

 

[Sepher]

. Transgenderism is not cross dressing, transgwnderism is being the opposite sex. If you were trans you would know.

I would have to disagree, though there is a difficulty in that meaning and usage seems to be quite variable depending who you talk to. Transgender as I understand it would be an umbrella term for a whole range of positions that includes but is not limited to cross-dressers, transvestites ( TVs not being quite the same as CDs, usage not pejorative in any sense ) and transexuals proper. Of those categories the truly transexual would be a relatively distinct group inasmuch as they genuinely self-identify as a gender at odds with their physical selves, in many cases requiring surgical treatment to correct that mismatch. That's not true all of all transgendered.

 

[augustaB]

I think there are two usages of the word "Transgender". One is as a general catch-all to cover the entire range of behaviours that socially normative expectations regard as transgressive, while the other usage, which is more common in the TG community is to designate the position between the transvestite and the transsexual.

 

[rakketakke]

Yes, recently they coined that term "transgenderists" ; those who feel they identify with Autogynophilia. This should not be confused with Transsexualism or HBS. It is not the same.

 

[augustaB]

Hey I never heard that transgenders were the same as autogynophiles before!!!
I'm not sure about the whole autogynophile theory anyway.

 

[C0NPAQ]

Drugs can definitively change much of anything that constructs your reality, especially the GHB + nicotine + aniracetam + ritalin + NSI-189 + Semax combo. Whether that is your beliefs about your own sexuality, or your beliefs about Jesus, or aliens or what not it doesn't matter. It is only a question of altering the right fundamental experiences that made you behave a certain way in the first place throughout your life. There is no "true you" or "male/female inside". Everything is relative at the face of the power of drugs. Rapid conditioning techniques and deep insight into your own psyche can get you anywhere you want. But if you have 20 years of conditioning a certain belief vs. just a week on a shitload of stuff, it will probably all flip back to where you came from rather easily. You have to do proper systematic reinforcement of your belief system with the drugs. I think though, even by sheer mindless randomness, people could just become a little bit female in their heads or a little bit gay and stuff like that. Very possible.

 

[psychedelicsoul]

I've always rejected the notion that trangendered people can't change... I'm not trans, so how one would go about changing their gender identity is beyond me. However, I believe through a combination of psychedelics, meditation, soul-searching, dianetics, prayer, fasting, and other things, it might be possible. Or maybe just some good ol' fashion pentacostal deliverance.

Perhaps psychedelic therapy could potentially treat gender identity issues through a slow process of hyponosis and drugs... I'm not gonna hound anybody for wanting a sex change, just dont' expect me to accept you as what you wanna be.
I'm not sure about using GBL though

I think finding a way to make trans people cope with who they actually are and are born as would help. Trans people can't change their genetic structure, so a sex change is just cosmetic surgery. If you ask me, people should be trying to alter their soul, not their body.
I will never call a transwoman a woman. I will not even call them a "Transwoman". I prefer the term "man". There's no such thing as being a "transwoman".
I think that gender identity disorder is not just a mental disorder but a spiritual one. One that the church has fought proudly to overcome for generations. I think psychiatrists are unequipped to deal with the issue and that it needs to be treated by someone with a strong understanding of the spiritual world.

You wanna see bravery?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsIP1zP4ns4
This is bravery, not Bruce Jenner... Bravery is to defeat your problems, not conform to them. Where's his reality show?

 

[Bearlove]

I have no transgenderism urges - regardless what substances I take this simply does not appeal to me. I'm a very comfortable gay guy - happy to be a man who loves men.