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Is it possible to induce transgenderism with drugs?

goku4ever

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Didn't really know where to put this...
But Ive been a very occasional crossdresser since about my midteens and at the end of last year the urge came back stronger than ever, which is also about the time I started GBL frequently. The urge was quite strong for a while, then about March it petered off. Again around the time when I packed the GBL in. Tonight for the first time since then I have had some GBL and for the first time in ages the urge has come back rather strongly.
So err, what the hell?
 
Drugs won't make you want to be the opposite sex but they can make you feel more comfortable about something that you may not fully accept or understand, especially drugs with anxiolytic properties such as gbl.
 
^Agreed, GBL is pretty disinhibiting, the OP is probably just acting upon repressed desires/thoughts. It's time for some serious introspection and sorting out of identity issues Goku...
 
Also agree, wow that was a good post, I mean it was short but it's like something I would say? lol or maybe Im jus really high and have no idea what im saying haha, eitherr wayups to u Kane lol
 
What Cane2theleft said. And of course some drugs seriously enhance the senses and fire up the sexual drive, so if the erotic, sensual side of things is one of your motivations for dressing you'll perhaps be drawn to it more when under the influence.

Have to disagree a bit with Never Knows Best's statement that there's necessarily an identity issue here needing to be addressed, depending on what your motives are, and what you're trying to achieve. These definitions are my own, and not everyone will agree with them, but cross-dressing IME tends to be fetishistic, more about the erotic, sensual pleasure of female clothing or the taking on of a more sexually submissive role rather than an expression of an inner female identity, and as such is very different to transvestism, which is more about giving expression to a distinct female persona that can be very different personality-wise to the male self. The properly transgendered / transexual are a different category again in that they self-identify as a gender at odds with their physical self. There's a degree of overlap to an extent, mainly between the CD and TV categories, but they're reasonably distinct and seperate nonetheless. If you define yourself as a cross-dresser by those definitions there is no identity issue to be addressed. It's just a guilty pleasure, no more.

Are you uncomfortable with your drive to dress? Is it something you struggle with, or think you should struggle with? As I said, it depends where you're at on the continuum, but if you enjoy dressing and have no issues re: your real gender identity then knock yourself out. No need to overly think it. Let's face it, who among us can truly say we've never pranced about in a lacy basque with stockings and suspenders in our time and quite enjoyed our little selves doing it, eh? Not many, I'll warrant! :p ;)
 
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Im perfectly fine with my crossdressing (cross-dressing is the expressing inner feminity, TV is the fetish one) and Ive come out to several people who were very cool about it. Im possibly transexual, unsure yet my GP is referring me to a specialist. Its just on GBL I feel a stronger urge to dress. But as someone has said GBL can be quite sexual, and though I don't dress for the sexual thrill, its nice to look nice.
 
I remember reading somewhere that Ram Daas (can't recall birth name), author of Be Here, Now, once had issues with femininity and cured his confusion through extensive psychedelic use. Same with Timothy Leary, perhaps? Unfortunately I forget the source...

Anyhow, I don't particularly believe in the 3-part gender description (straight, bi, gay), and believe in much more shading of the three (and independence from one to another).
 
While this isn't really BDD material, I'm going to try and figure out where a better spot for your thread might be.

Temp closed.
 
Drugs won't make you want to be the opposite sex but they can make you feel more comfortable about something that you may not fully accept or understand, especially drugs with anxiolytic properties such as gbl.

^This.^

I'm not Trans at all but I've met people who are and they did not always know that they are trans and sometimes they would go into denial about it. Not all of the trans people I've met have had surgery or take hormones, some like this bisexual TS I know he doesn't want to transition via surgery or hormones at all since he wants to have a family and kids with a woman.
 
I don't think drugs can be regarded as the cause of a condition like transgenderism, but on the other hand I do think that they may bring such feelings to the surface.
In my own case I became acutely aware of my desire to present as the opposite sex when I first used mdma.
After much self-examination I eventually came to the conclusion that it was not so much a new desire but that when I used mdma I was no longer afraid of the consequences and it felt like a perfectly reasonable thing to do. These days if I roll I crossdress prior to dropping.
There have been a rash of reports in recent years about people with Parkinson's, who after starting treatment for compensating the shortage of dopamine in the brain start to indulge in compulsive behaviours, including gambling, multiple sexual adventures and ... cross-dressing.
 
Funny I never had that with GBL/GHB although I did have improved libido/sexual function, FAT DICK

I get severe urges to crossdress when i'm on dexamphetamine though but I guess that wouldn't be out of the ordinary with all the kinks and fetishes that come out with induced hypersexuality =D

OP does it really matter? Just do what you like <3

If you really think it revolves around transgenderism drop me a pm, if it's just a kink on GBL have a goddamn blast !
 
Funny I never had that with GBL/GHB although I did have improved libido/sexual function, FAT DICK

I get severe urges to crossdress when i'm on dexamphetamine though but I guess that wouldn't be out of the ordinary with all the kinks and fetishes that come out with induced hypersexuality =D

OP does it really matter? Just do what you like <3

If you really think it revolves around transgenderism drop me a pm, if it's just a kink on GBL have a goddamn blast !

I think it was the GBL reducing my inhbitions.
 
No need to stress it with me, I could care less if a bearded man with a dress came across me on the street.

Just watch out with GBL, having to redose every 4 hours to avoid withdrawals is no fun ;)
 
Dopamine agonists can cause people to do weird/sporadic things. Check out this one.

General side effects for rotigotine may include constipation, dyskinesia, nausea, vomiting, dizziness, fatigue, insomnia, somnolence, confusion, and hallucinations.[6][7] More serious complications can include psychosis and impulse control disorders like hypersexuality, punding, and pathological gambling.[8] Mild adverse skin reactions at the patch application site may also occur.[1][7]
 
I'm a autogynephilia, and have ADHD, so I'm curious as to whether dopamine does have some play into my sexual identity.

Very curious about this. Did you self-identify as autogynephiliac or did a counsellor tell you that?
 
Okay then, but I'm curious why you don't self-identify as transgender. Some people (like Lynne Conway) regard autogynephilia as being a baseless and derogatory theory for what goes on in trans people. I'm not sure myself. Blanchard et alia make some good points, but I don't agree with them all.
 
I actually have a great deal of experience with this. and on a side not before i share my personal experiences which the OP might find enlightening and hopeful i just want to say that i find the autogynephilia theory to be incredibly transphobic and offensive.

I have known that i am transsexual (male to female) my whole life. I attended a very small very conservative school in the south which was basically hitler youth for the GOP. Needless to say i was bulled anytime i did anything which could even remotely be considered "queer." I began to repress all thoughts about my gender identity and was so ashamed from the beatings and being called a "faggot" day in and day out that when i entered high school i threw myself into the drug culture. I developed a hyper masculine persona that i wore as a sheild every day and backed it up with violence and general aggression. Things went from bad to awful in the span of four years. I went through multiple suicide attempts, hospitalizations, stints in county jail, and rehab centers. Now for the benifit of the OP when i was intoxicated enough during these years i would dress in female attire and make slight body modifications to feel more femme. Eventually it all came to a breaking point when i was 18 and 3 months away from graduation. I went on a Meth and pcp/ketamine binge for about 9 days with a girlfriend. I confessed to her that i enjoyed being en femme during sex. after experiencing sex in the role which matches my mental gender identity it was like a light had been thrown on in a dark room. Everything rushed back to me and i for the first time since before the trauma of the bullying i accepted the fact that i was transsexual. i will spare the gory details of the self-loathing and shame which haunted me for the next few months but needless to say it was one of the darkest and lonely times i have ever had.

that june my best friend committed suicide through a heroin OD and i realized that life is far to short and fragile to be miserable. I came out of the closet and started living openly. And now eight months later my life is far better than i could have ever possibly imagined. Im working as an intern at a recording studio, spending time with my family, friends, and speed racer my cat, and am generally content almost every day. I have no suicidal idealation anymore and i havent had a run in with the law in over a year. I have a girlfriend (shes a lesbian) and we are very happy.

its a long road before i will be able to finish the physical transition but acceptance and learning to love myself for who i am have changed every thing.

I hope that this is enlightening or at least interesting to read. I'm more than happy to answer ANY and ALL legitimate questions.

Peace and Love
Jessi Rose (an out and proud trans-woman) scratch that WOMAN<3
 
Ok, I have expierence with this subject, considering I am an active crossdresser, You should considering joining an online support group, such as crossdressers.com. But, at any point in the transgender spectrum covers alot of area, not just transexual(I am a women in a mans body) vs. Crossdresser(I am a man in a dress, and im happy) For all intensive purposes a crossdresser is transgendered to an extent, they connect to the feminine and self empowering feeling of emulating the female sex. So, your question is slightly redundant, because yes, You are transgender. From the sounds though, you are not transxexual. Also, you will learn that the need for crossdressing greatly goes and comes at times in your life. You may see not recall any specific reason as to why the urge goes away for weeks on end, then punches you in the face for three weeks, its natural, every crossdresser has been through this, and thats what makes you a crossdresser, not transexual. Also, a bit of a side note, I enjoy crossdressing on many drugs, but, I enjoy the act itself. I am comfortable with who I am though, and I understand why I have these needs.

Understand that crossdressing is a very effective way to treat stress. Think of all your maladaptive behaviors you engage in. I dont know you, so I dont know them, but a few of the common ones are, smoking cigarettes, alcohol use, drug abuse[abuse not use], outbursts of anger, obsessive thought. All of these things can be in any of our lives. Crossdressing is a form of releasing stress, having fun, and just bringing a smile to your face(if its your thing). It alone has helped me get out of a few rather sever depressions, has helped me deal with the only psychological addiction I have even suffered, and, in the end, crossdressing is still a part of my life, with the drugs arent.

Crossdressing will be with you for the rest of your life untill you get put six feet under, trust me. It will never cease completely. Also, crossdressing can have sever implications on a relationship, its honestly best to confront a person you have interest in a relationship with before you have sex with them. Any one worth knowing will understand your telling them your hobby not to force them into it, but, to protect them from the future pain of hiding crossdressing from someone. And trust me, waiting til later in a relationship to tell a lover that you like wearing the same cloths they wear will cause ALOT of stress...Alot. Some people, just can never accept and support you for who you are. Stay away from these people. They will harm your perception of yourself, and make you doubt what you already know about your self. And, dont ever agree to completly stop crossdressing to be with someone in a relationship/marriage. You may be able to keep the urge down for a year or two...maybe even five, but it WILL come back, stronger then ever. Aside from the self betrayal by signing away a personal freedom for the stric governing of another persons perception of how YOU should act, you will be HIGHLY unhappy.


What Cane2theleft said. And of course some drugs seriously enhance the senses and fire up the sexual drive, so if the erotic, sensual side of things is one of your motivations for dressing you'll perhaps be drawn to it more when under the influence.

Have to disagree a bit with Never Knows Best's statement that there's necessarily an identity issue here needing to be addressed, depending on what your motives are, and what you're trying to achieve. These definitions are my own, and not everyone will agree with them, but cross-dressing IME tends to be fetishistic, more about the erotic, sensual pleasure of female clothing or the taking on of a more sexually submissive role rather than an expression of an inner female identity, and as such is very different to transvestism, which is more about giving expression to a distinct female persona that can be very different personality-wise to the male self. The properly transgendered / transexual are a different category again in that they self-identify as a gender at odds with their physical self. There's a degree of overlap to an extent, mainly between the CD and TV categories, but they're reasonably distinct and seperate nonetheless. If you define yourself as a cross-dresser by those definitions there is no identity issue to be addressed. It's just a guilty pleasure, no more.

Are you uncomfortable with your drive to dress? Is it something you struggle with, or think you should struggle with? As I said, it depends where you're at on the continuum, but if you enjoy dressing and have no issues re: your real gender identity then knock yourself out. No need to overly think it. Let's face it, who among us can truly say we've never pranced about in a lacy basque with stockings and suspenders in our time and quite enjoyed our little selves doing it, eh? Not many, I'll warrant! :p ;)

Im sorry, but the entire LGBT community will disagree with your defination or interpatation of a crossdresser. Most crossdressers are infact heterosexual males with no intent to being with another male while dressed. What you are describing there is transvestic fetishism. Like I said, the transgender spectrum CANNOT be defined with simple definitions, everyone has their own choices and wants. There is not concrete lines where CD vs TV vs TS falls, ever aspect overlaps with the other in every sense, the entire spectrum is fluid, To catagorize or sterotype any part of it is just silly. What you have wrote in your post is a serious slap in the fact to the LGBT community and transgendered people in general. Its not your fault, your malinformed, so you dont know any better, but this is part of the reason people lose friendships, family, and lovers when they come out and say, I am a crossdresser.

I know all this isnt the exact answer your looking for, but it seems to me your semi uneducated about crossdressing, sorry if i babbled.
 
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