Is Bluelight dying ?

[StoneHappyMonday]

The deaths, the growth in the heroin members and then shit-drama that's been evident over the last few years to an extent have turned me off eadd a lot. I've become jaded, fed up and a pretty crap participant myself.

Not picking a fight and I agree with most of what you say but I do disagree with this. I've never been a drug snob ("my drug is better than your drug") and I've certainly never been put off by the growth BL encompassed with the heroin drought. For all their faults, which are largely explained away by being the biggest sufferers of demonisation of any drug users, I've always found heroin users on this forum to be amongst the most knowledgeable and the most funny of drug users. If anyone believes every word they read from someone on the internet then that's their problem but at least I felt BL gave heroin users an anonymous place to be themselves and/or tell their lies without harm to anyone else.

And you're not a crap participant. Bit mental maybe, but not crap.

 

[koneko]

This. A decade ago, you could come on here at any time of the day, or night and get a conversation going, even during the week. When weekend hit, EADD was absolutely packed, all night. I used to live my life on here, and always have someone to interact with. It would take me hours to catch up, if I missed a couple of days. The first page usually never had a thread that hadn't been replied to on the same day, unless Bluelight had been down. You could hit refresh and expect to see new posts, every few minutes. Now, there's sometimes a whole week contained on the first page. Anyone who doesn't see this is in denial, or hasn't been on here long enough to remember. To be honest, life has gotten pretty busy for me, so I'm not massively bothered, not that there's anything I could single-handedly do, anyway.

Agree Treacle, those we're fun days. When I joined and was very active, it was like this. Don't know if it was the drugs and the common interest with those folks at the time, but there was always something good too catch up with others.

In the words of the lovely SHM: 'Forum's gone to shit'. It was nice, while it lasted, and I have fond memories of the place.

He's always saying that %) Don't encourage him

Ziiirp: Your comment about Reddit being a shitty alternative, and the users being 'dumb' is ridiculous, and coming out with mongy shit like that is an excellent way to make people avoid EADD, as it just makes the place sound cliquey and elitist. So, well done! Moron. You've been a member since 2011, and I don't remember ever seeing a post from you, so you've clearly not made much of an impact on the place.

Aye, I have no idea who this person is either, but maybe he/she or what else they've positively contributed to eadd. No offence Ziiirp but you sound like a "dumb" arsehole

 

[koneko]

Not picking a fight and I agree with most of what you say but I do disagree with this. I've never been a drug snob ("my drug is better than your drug") and I've certainly never been put off by the growth BL encompassed with the heroin drought. For all their faults, which are largely explained away by being the biggest sufferers of demonisation of any drug users, I've always found heroin users on this forum to be amongst the most knowledgeable and the most funny of drug users. If anyone believes every word they read from someone on the internet then that's their problem but at least I felt BL gave heroin users an anonymous place to be themselves and/or tell their lies without harm to anyone else.

I think I've said this comment wrongly - I meant I have little in common with the heroin crew in terms of drug culture interest / experience. Can't say I don't find those posters, especially those who've stayed long term after the drought to be anything but amazing, knowledgeable people.

Who comes to mind is strungout and stee - who have a lot to give and are fantastic members of the eadd community.

I was a mod when the drought happened and worked hard to deal with those threads at the time. I remember long work hours with Whore at the time to ensure their space was given within the bL rules to ensure they had the place they needed to voice their concerns and experience within the context of eadd at that time.

Saying that since then the eadd community changed from mdma / stim and psychonots to a different type of people. The heroin community is in my opinion are a lot more serious / troubled than recreational fun-recreational time members.

Totally agree they are amongst the people who have suffered the most with drug demonetisation.

And you're not a crap participant. Bit mental maybe, but not crap.

Bit mental lol 8) Thanks for the compliment Mr Together

 

[Tranced]

There is just no need to use reddit for anything. Absolutely not. Centralized data is always dangerous. And the users are dumb, yes.

Errm, surely this was just an ironic comment/bit of playful rivalry. Hence the use of odd syntax.

Given this, if anything, I'd say the responses were cliquey.

Ziiirp always seems pretty sound to me.

 

[consumer]

Well we seem to have lost two of the most hilarious and knowledgeable posters in Squid and FUBAR. Hopefully they are just on bl respite. Others come and go. \it is what it is.

 

[One Thousand Words]

Eadd isn't any where near as social as it Once was, there is no denying that. Paranoia means members share very little of their real life compared to what they used to, as a result all that is posted is the same repetitive drivel that does nothing to create a community.

Add to that secret subgroups who meet outside on other spaces you can see why it fails to hold new members attention for as long as 5 yr ago.

 

[ordinary mind]

Well we seem to have lost two of the most hilarious and knowledgeable posters in Squid and FUBAR. Hopefully they are just on bl respite. Others come and go. \it is what it is.

I'm surprised FUBAR just disappeared without a word after being such a regular poster for quite a while. Hope he'll make a triumphant return with a hilarious penis amputation explanation to boot.

People keep saying the pace will pick up again, but as far as I can see things are just getting more and more quiet. Oh well, plenty more internet in the sea I guess

 

[ScotchMist]

After visiting the shrine it appears to be literally dying..

And not from EADD, ay Busty? But I'll not be a cunt about it, as it's fuckin irrelevant. Sad times.

 

[ScotchMist]

I think I've said this comment wrongly - I meant I have little in common with the heroin crew in terms of drug culture interest / experience. Can't say I don't find those posters, especially those who've stayed long term after the drought to be anything but amazing, knowledgeable people.

Who comes to mind is strungout and stee - who have a lot to give and are fantastic members of the eadd community.

I was a mod when the drought happened and worked hard to deal with those threads at the time. I remember long work hours with Whore at the time to ensure their space was given within the bL rules to ensure they had the place they needed to voice their concerns and experience within the context of eadd at that time.

Saying that since then the eadd community changed from mdma / stim and psychonots to a different type of people. The heroin community is in my opinion are a lot more serious / troubled than recreational fun-recreational time members.

Totally agree they are amongst the people who have suffered the most with drug demonetisation.



Bit mental lol 8) Thanks for the compliment Mr Together

That's nonsense too. Heroin users have only heroin going for them? You share nothing with us? Some of us even take drugs you take, fancy that 8)

 

[Treacle]

Eadd isn't any where near as social as it Once was, there is no denying that. Paranoia means members share very little of their real life compared to what they used to, as a result all that is posted is the same repetitive drivel that does nothing to create a community.

Add to that secret subgroups who meet outside on other spaces you can see why it fails to hold new members attention for as long as 5 yr ago.

You haven't exactly helped, have you, Trolls 'R' Us? You're definitely one of the reasons I stopped caring as much about the place, so cheers for that.

My theory (and other people's, like Sadie) is that when the pills turned to piperazines, the place started to fall apart. There used to be loads of meet-ups, usually full of happy, gurning faces. I went to about five of them, mainly in London. Clubs hired just for us, etc. It was an extremely tight-knit place, and the drama only tended to occasionally unfold on Tuesdays/Wednesdays, because of the silly amount of MDMA/MDA combos people were taking. Pretty much everyone knew/referred to each other on a first name basis. Ah, it's quite sad, really. Maybe with the reemergence of decent pills, it might improve, but I doubt it. I know I'd post more, if it did...

With regards to the heroin discussion, it's hardly the most social drug in the world, so it's easy to see why when people started doing more (again, some of those people were really into their pills, and seemed to pick up gear, when they died out), the conversation suffered. Nodding out doesn't quite make for the same level of interaction as bouncing up and down on your chair, blasting tunes. I know when I had a heavy codeine addiction, I pretty much forgot about this place, so I'm certainly not knocking anyone for the choice of intoxicant.

 

[Ziiirp]

Thanks. I rate Tranced very high. I rate people, that do not have a clue, what they are talking about (i.e. do not own a degree in a relevant field) as irrelevant.

If you do not even know, what centralized data is supposed to mean, then I cannot and will not help you. No, thanks.

 

[koneko]

That's nonsense too. Heroin users have only heroin going for them? You share nothing with us? Some of us even take drugs you take, fancy that 8)

But I've never been a heroin addict. Hence I can't relate very well to that since I have no experience.

Treacle kinda says it better here...

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With regards to the heroin discussion, it's hardly the most social drug in the world, so it's easy to see why when people started doing more (again, some of those people were really into their pills, and seemed to pick up gear, when they died out), the conversation suffered. Nodding out doesn't quite make for the same level of interaction as bouncing up and down on your chair, blasting tunes. I know when I had a heavy codeine addiction, I pretty much forgot about this place, so I'm certainly not knocking anyone for the choice of intoxicant.

I'm neither knocking anyone for their drug choices.

Btw - Scotch "hugs"

Thanks. I rate Tranced very high. I rate people, that do not have a clue, what they are talking about (i.e. do not own a degree in a relevant field) as irrelevant.

If you do not even know, what centralized data is supposed to mean, then I cannot and will not help you. No, thanks.

So is the BL server not "centralised data"? Or for that matter the NAS we have at home?

Pity you can't be bothered to help or explain. Great discussion and participation skills there 8(



Maybe it's that attitude that's contributed to the perceived "death of BL" aka - "Forums gone to shite" eh

 

[ScotchMist]

You've seen Trainspotting havent you? Just like that..

Ive no experience as a female - cross dressing aside - yet there are countless experiences we share. So why would one experience put a barrier up between interaction?

Hugs back Just after some decent discussion

 

[koneko]

You've seen Trainspotting havent you? Just like that..

Ive no experience as a female - cross dressing aside - yet there are countless experiences we share. So why would one experience put a barrier up between interaction?

Hugs back Just after some decent discussion

It is a decent discussion. As is the centralised data thing!

Aye, I've seen Train Spotting and learnt a lot here on BL engaging with users. Add to that I do like my codeine So maybe I know more than I think. But I've never lived that lifestyle, so wouldn't like to think I know anything about it. It doesn't look like something I'd like to get into at all - hence I can't compute why. I'm lacking insight into a lot about it.

I've also known a few folk way back on the edges of my "scene" who were h-addicts and they died of overdoses. Their lives were shit, it was scary and very sad. Such a waste of great people. A lot like those on bL who've died from it.



Maybe it's me but having periods, a uterus, pregnancy and giving birth isn't quite like cross-dressing! :D I can't say I understand what it's like being a man either.


Maybe I'm personally lacking in empathy in some things... What do you think?

 

[razordesignz]

People will come and go, I have to figure bluelight is most known as a stereotypical drug forum. I'd bet money people using are the main ones who come in as new members. You'll get noobies who are young and or unaware of the drug world. Members die off, quit coming on once they quit using because I'm sure browsing the forums will influence use so a trigger. Some get annoyed with what ita become. I know me personally years back I just had it as a connection to different url links from Google searches on drug questions. Now a days I really only check the what's new link browse it and it's usually mostly boring shit in my opinion. And the fact that brands are not allowed to be discussed leads me to believe this site has to have some form of government in the shadows they don't want people catching on to weak rip off generic companies. Just my rant

 

[One Thousand Words]

After visiting the shrine it appears to be literally dying..

And not from EADD, ay Busty? But I'll not be a cunt about it, as it's fuckin irrelevant. Sad times.

You have cum stained tissues that have sat in your bedroom longer than you have been here on bluelight so you'll be forgiven for not knowing that I was living in France when I first joined Bluelight around 2002.

Back then it was definitely more social banter about what we were going to do Friday-Saturday night before coming together Sunday morning to suffer a comedown together. HR was all about not over doing it and involved advice such as not mixing different pills in case they had different adulterants which may have side effects.

Heroin was frowned upon, even if a handful used it for their comedowns. Now days it's rare for someone to leave their bedroom and a trip report involves someone fighting their neighbour over a cat or crying because their postman is late. More variety of drugs has definitely not increased the entertainment factor

Meet ups were the back bone of Bluelight. In fact I met up with an old school blue lighter only yesterday who I have known for over a decade and had more adventures on a saturday with my family and him that most people here have had all year.

 

[steewith2ees]

I posted this in gibberings the other day when Koneko seemed really disillusioned.It's too early to re - read and re - digest it but with every day being such a non event I thought I'd repeat it here for posterity as I'm sure everything I said still apllies, and in case K missed it.

I'm sorry K as I probably represent the worst of what has happened to this board, a boring non interactive mod with an opiate addiction, something that wasn't really a large feature of this forum before the drought threads started in late 2010 - of course, despite lurking on here for years it was the drought that finally made me bite the bullet and start to actively post, as I knew that this was the one place where I would be able to get answers as to what was gong on.

Did this ruin the forum? Maybe - I cannot be objective about this as I was only a observer before 2010 - I'm sure that you had members that had long standing opiate addictions already and that it was an occasional point of discussion but it was the drought that brought the like of me and 'my kind' (active heroin users) out of the woodwork on mass and into the regular mainstream of EADD. It naturally bought a plethora of real scumbags to the board along with the glut of gearless users joining, most of who disappeared as quickly as they had arrived but out of it EADD gained a few really good members, and a few tits in it for the long term as well.

By then and since then I have and had recovered and relapsed and amnow twiddling my fingers while on the waiting list to rejoin life (the NHS and DWP do not think I am fit to work at the moment or due to my methadone script, drive a car, as I had to surrender my license on starting MMT).

I was really interesting for a time there K, the life and soul of the the party to the extent that they all left before I did, leaving me with nothing but my fired head space and a heroin habit to look forward to and ruin everything. Ironically, when I was practising the sort of behaviours that Bluelight celebrates and discusses I was just getting on with it and whenever I was twisted (which was most of the time I wasn't at work) I would be either socialising or lost in my record collection- not posting live reports of how mashed I was on here - even the boy toy behaviour that I still persist with (my obsession with film and things like the playstation) was no different then apart from the fact that there would be a group of us watching a flick / playing PGA Golf, not a downer soaked middle age sad act who's idea of a fantastic Saturday is to lie alone listening to my pathetic music with a couple of penny acids inside me pretending I still actually am a raver but with a gram of gear waiting for me on touchdown so I can quickly get zone-spazzed before my brain switches back to normal I'm once again faced with the reality of myself and my life without the objective protection that the acid headstate provides when one is concerned with matters relating to ones ego and social self.

It;s probably more of a sign of the times that anything else, but I'm still a symptom of that change and while I can apologise for who I am and what I have done I I cannot change it now. As I don't even do any drugs outside of my normal pharmacopoeia very often I often have little to contribute towards any of these threads anymore. In fact, the only possibly useful thing i am capable of at the moment is to help moderate this board, something that I may do quite poorly but which in my own defence is something I have still only been at for 3 months.

When EADD has to scrape the bottom of the barrel so hard that I'm the best they can come up with as a 'new moderator', that is down to to a beggars cannot be choosers situation, if the current team have only boring choices to make with regards to new help, then they cannot be held accountable as they can only work with what they have. Unfortunately, until someone actually worth it comes along and applies you will be stuck with the like of me. Like anything in life, things are never as good as they used to be and I guess that probably includes EADD as well.

But until the forum either folds or starts to attract young exciting people who can bring about change I'll have to placehold, even if my 'hr' advice is cinfined to cautionary tales about hospitalisations from club drug piggery or the subsequent yawn - a - thons about my own boring dependency issues and my resultant non existing life.

If the team have not been able to pick a good mod this time ariund it is because there wasn't any (not speaking for Don of course who, modship aside, was already a longtime quality contributor), and for my part, despite what little I may bring, it's still nice knowing that when I was stuck regrading my own drug issues there was a resource I could count on for answers, and if my presence can keep that option open for people for a little longer, even without any hope of restoration to any 'former glories', then that's about as good as I can and would want to give.

 

[consumer]

I posted this in gibberings the other day when Koneko seemed really disillusioned.It's too early to re - read and re - digest it but with every day being such a non event I thought I'd repeat it here for posterity as I'm sure everything I said still apllies, and in case K missed it.

Stee your posts are far tldr but your heart is in the right place. You just need and editor.

 

[ScotchMist]

You have cum stained tissues that have sat in your bedroom longer than you have been here on bluelight so you'll be forgiven for not knowing that I was living in France when I first joined Bluelight around 2002.

Back then it was definitely more social banter about what we were going to do Friday-Saturday night before coming together Sunday morning to suffer a comedown together. HR was all about not over doing it and involved advice such as not mixing different pills in case they had different adulterants which may have side effects.

Heroin was frowned upon, even if a handful used it for their comedowns. Now days it's rare for someone to leave their bedroom and a trip report involves someone fighting their neighbour over a cat or crying because their postman is late. More variety of drugs has definitely not increased the entertainment factor

Meet ups were the back bone of Bluelight. In fact I met up with an old school blue lighter only yesterday who I have known for over a decade and had more adventures on a saturday with my family and him that most people here have had all year.

So what. What's your point?

 

[steewith2ees]

So what. What's your point?

Like, is there some suggestion that these halycion days still don't take place from time to time among members who have joined since 2002?



In 2002 I was out dancing every weekend with a quick check on pillreports and a marquis test to make sure the beans were not garbage. After that it would be drugs, music and dancing until I needed pillreports again. I certainly wasn't arsed about here (not through any fault with the site or forums, simply as it was not until 12 months later I found BL throuh PR)