to me it seems that esotericists mostly take scientific data out of context (see the measured radiation to "prove" wave x) when convenient, while ignoring it when it's inconsistent with what they say.A good esotericist at times requires healthy logical functioning and an ability to apply the scientific method.
Ninae said:We're led to believe scepticism is a sign of intelligence so many like to define themselves that way (especially men who are laughed of otherwise).
Still, when your consciousness is heightened it enables you to use more of your brain or all parts at once, and channel much more mental energy. And we still have this false choice between science and religion, meaning you're limited from exploring both and gaining a more whole picture.
please elaborateYou would think that thought is probably electromagnetic. So its unlikely that it will travel faster then light.
There is a way for information to 'travel' faster...
that's basically what I've said. if you know already, the information hasn't travelled anywhere, because you already have itBut- I really don't think this is information, as a tangible, discreet element, travelling anywhere at all.
No, I'm talking about a finite, spiritual dimension for which there is undeniable proof. But instead of encouraging people to cultivate and explore it, there is a huge resistance to keep things as they've always been.
Which leads me to my next point: there's a difference between skepticism and suppression. There's times I'll be in conversation with friends and I'll throw in some ideas I've had just to see their reaction, and suddenly it's like I'm talking to the wall. It's rare that they will acknowledge and try to understand what I'm saying - they just shutdown for no good reason.
It's weird because most people will associate spirituality with religion or yoga or psychedelics or schitzophrenia, without thinking for one second that anything and everything they are doing is effectively a spiritual endeavor. You'll say that's a really broad definition, but eventually it all comes back to some core mechanics which we are conditioned to push aside and ignore.
That's kind of my point though. Since when did the physical realm become the standard for knowledge? I understand that people are suspicious of anything related to spirit, but I don't think that should surpress our curiosity. Why is it okay that we're raised to think and behave in terms of inches and kilograms and light years (and more recently, likes and shares and comments)?
Alright fair enough. So what do you believe we're made for?
Do you mean predictable? Because there's nothing natural or reasonable about shutting yourself from new and potentially useful ideas. More and more I'm starting to think that they're doing it on purpose. I mean it's not like I'm clinically insane or anything - I'm not proposing to assassinate the president or to molest little girls. For example, I'll say something like "I hate that we have to eat three times a day" and they will shut me down with "because biology" or divert the conversation with something like "yeah I tried veganism for a month, but I didn't see the point." And you know, if it was someone else, someone respectable saying the same thing, they would sit back and listen. But since it's me, suddenly they feel obliged to fill my head with doubts.
I don't know if it's a matter of what or how I'm saying things anymore as much as it is the fact that I'm saying them at all. The other day I was talking with a family friend whom I hadn't seen for years but whom I always respected and whose company I always enjoyed. I don't remember exactly how the conversation started, she was telling me something about work (she's a lawyer in her mid 50's and lately she's been doing some volunteer work) and at some point she says "yeah that's all I can do now, serve the greater good" and me being me, I tell her it's not really volunteer work if she's getting some kind of emotional consolation out of it. She replies by saying that she genuinely likes to help others and that we only have one chance at this, at which point I ask her if she believes in reincarnation. "No way, we're here for however long we last and that's it," she responds firmly. Then I try another approach and I tell her that maybe we can't know for sure what happens in the afterlife, but we don't even care enough to explain what goes on during our life. "We don't really know how or why we get old," I tell her, "we just accept it. Just like we accept food and sleep and sex and money and marriage and violence and killing and wars and all that" and I could already see a slight panic in her eyes as she tries to reassure me that it's just the way things are. Here I am wanting to take the conversation to the next level, and she's blocked with some hollywood bullshit lol