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I was born a female but I feel like a gay man and I'm having an identity crisis

I'm 28, get laid 3-5 times a week, and I still will wank(sometimes with porn!) on an almost daily basis. it isn't a rejection, in fact it has nothing to do with my SO at all. the same goes with my porn selection, what I watch doesn't always equal what I want in the real world.
 
That's true on the other end as well. I know of more than a few diehard lesbians that like to watch man on man porn. Straight men that like to watch female on femal porn. And bisexual men that prefer straight porn.

...confusing? only if you allow it to be.

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I'm 28, get laid 3-5 times a week, and I still will wank(sometimes with porn!) on an almost daily basis. it isn't a rejection, in fact it has nothing to do with my SO at all. the same goes with my porn selection, what I watch doesn't always equal what I want in the real world.

You indicated you have a selective process... his process is "must be boy next door perfectly sculpted butt invasion gay porn... Preferably with 3+ guys going at it" Now to be clear I have loved gay porn since I was first exploring sexuality but recently it's been making me feel uncomfortable to watch it with him because I turn invisible for long periods of time while he's pretending he's in the film instead of with me and he'll realize I get what's going on so he'll do these obviously forced things that feel like they are so programmed and devoid of genuine passion like suck on my nipples for all of 15 seconds and never make eye contact with me--- but yeah he's probably totally into it 8)
Recently he's been A. unemployed and demotivated B. gave up on going to school this year and C. has started watching porn under the guise of "testing it out to make sure it's good" at least 10 out of 24 hours of the day.

Also, when given the choice, I bet you prefer a live partner over your hand, especially if that partner was into watching porn to make the sex even hotter and was open to trying almost anything. But he still closes out the porn he's watching when I enter the room where he is... he just can't get enough of the little fantasy world he's built up in secret in his mind... and it's not that I care that he has fantasies... in fact on the contrary, I like the fact that he has an attration to gay sex too, but I invite him to play in my fantasyland... but he still denies he even has a fantasyland.
 
obviously, he doesn't want to have a sexual relationship with you. Why don't you dump him?
 
I kind of agree with that statement.

You aren't happy with him and his behavior. That isn't going to change.

You are going to be you and he is going to be him. As I see it, you two are not compatible.

It is time to move on.
 
and its not even a matter of your gender and sexuality. This kind of behavior is unacceptable and breaks relationships in very normal, boring heterosexual relationships all the time.
 
Oddly, I can somewhat relate to the dilemma you are having. My fiance once said that she would change her gender, as she said she always has been androgynous in her mannerisms ever since she can remember. But, that of course was an exaggeration at the time, and she does have a feminine side. The reason she claimed that she would be willing to change her gender for me is because she knows that I am bisexual. However, when I commit to a relationship, I commit completely, and am able to "cut-off" an aspect of my sexuality. This doesn't imply that I let my balls turn blue in certain scenarios, I simply ignore men. Since I have been ignoring men, I have found them far less attractive than women, to the point where I would say I feel comfortably heterosexual. Now, of course, I never was uncomfortably bisexual.

So, in other words, I value my fiance more than I value my selfish exploratory sexual pursuits. I feel that monogamy is the only way I can function when it comes to being close and physical with people. I could never see myself with multiple partners. I would feel like my word means nothing, and my love and body is cheap.
 
Thanks for the honest replies - your first post had me confused as to how you were living and what you wanted.

The guy your living with now seems like he is reacting in a (I’m sorry to say it) but almost expected way - he is a bi-guy? He likes sex with men (who are men) and women (who are women) - and maybe the mix of a gay guy in a female body is just too confusing for him.

Gay guys like men - not just because they have a dick/balls but because they are 'men' with a different thought process, way of dealing with things and the entire lifestyle is different. Yes gay guys can find women attractive but the thought of sex with a woman or living with a woman just doesn’t have any appeal.

My transgender friends were living as women trapped inside a guys body - they lived as women though, they dressed as women, they thought as women, they acted like women. Sexually they had to sleep with gay guys as physically they were men but gained some satisfaction from it as they felt 'needed / loved' - they were never really happy though until their bodies were the same as their minds (female).

To have a ‘gay’ guy love you, sleep with you and live with you then you need to be a guy. When a guy is having sex with you they are seeing and thinking they are with a woman – regardless if you like anal sex, or like to be on top etc your still physically a woman.

I would love it for you to find somebody who can appreciate you for who you are
 
if only i was jeffree star...lol

although futurepig had good advice, i don't think an openly bisexual man is going to be into a monogamous relationship with a woman. (??)

Noodle was more accurate... in fact this guy I'm with recently said he might be bi but that he "doesn't like that part of himself" and claims he could only picture himself in a monog. relationship with a female. I don't think he doesn't like that part of himself though cause generally you don't spend the majority of your time doing something you actually don't like doing at the expense of education, financial stability, productivity... especially with this guy cause he is very verbal about if he doesn't feel like doing something... or more often avoids like the plague things which he truly does not enjoy doing like cleaning up, fucking with girl on top, getting on a remotely similar sleep schedule so we don't pass out on eachother...
 
oversimplification is the leading cause of death

obviously, he doesn't want to have a sexual relationship with you. Why don't you dump him?

Because his position currently is that who one is sexually turned on by is separate from who he wants to be in a long term relationship with. To me, that just means he hasn't explored his sexuality well enough and let himself be free and with the right kind of person (since I am his 2nd serious sexual partner) to be open to integrating his sexual attractions into the relationship's love life. Most guys are unappologetic in their sexual endeavours, this guy makes an active effort to try to do for me sexually what he (incorrectly) thinks I want instead of just collaborating with me on what BOTH of us want. His problem is that he's still in that developmental stage with himself where he's still afraid of his mother's disapproval (translating into worrying that I am going to try to "punish" him for being anything but what he beleives is society's and my expectation for a normal hetero relationship) and it is that fear that motivates his secrecy... not a desire to actually be with a man. He actually has not made any kind of effort to find a guy to have sex with to my knowledge, much less be in any kind of real relationship with. I asked him why he likes only gay porn and he said he didn't know but then I listed off a bunch of possibilities and when I brought up the idea of it being about sexual domination and control, he said that that was a big part of it. And we both enjoy rape and gang rape porn or have in the past so I understand that his sexual prowress is centered around his need to feel like the dominating one. I'm a switch which I think is why I found yesterday that I needed to get off by myself fantasizing I was the one fuck the guy's ass with gay porn before I felt comfortable watching it with him. But the sex was amazing apart from when at times I felt like he was touching me because he felt like "he should" instead of because he actually wanted to...
I want to be the person to help him open himself up to delving into those gay fantasies he has, I just hope that he can find satisfaction in them with me being as how he will not be seeing a hard cock and balls laying on my non-existent 6-pac as he is pounding my ass missionary style. But the other night after we did missionary anal he did mention how much it turned him on to see my pussy frothing over with juices while he was fucking me, and I could see in his eyes that he was being honest., so maybe if I just get the 6-pac and a realistc strap on I could give him real life boy next door style sex that would satisfy both of our gayest desires. He admitted also that he likes to be the one doing things to me because it turns him on to be able to make me feel good, to make me cum. He actually was really turned on the other night when after he came, we still wanted to keep going so he fucked me with a dildo and made me cum several times... he couldn't be controlled he had such a raging hard on we had to fuck again right then and there...
So I guess I'm just not willing to throw away 2+ years of work by making any kind of snap judgement or decision on what he wants since he insists he wants to be with me, and I do want to be with him, and he demonstrates in daily life that he is willing to give of himself to me and help me with my dreams in life, which is not something he will do for anybody else, even his family or closest friends. He really does not want to lose me and sometimes I think he's worried he can't be the kind of person I need and those feelings of inadequacy lead him to feeling like he needs to get away to his comfort zone, the place where he has control, jerking it alone to gay porn. Also, there is a very strong metaphor or symbolism for this psychosexual situation, especially watched by a guy who doesn't actually want to be with a man, and because he limits his styles of porn to boy next door, which is what he himself would be classified if he were doing porn, it makes sense that when he feels the need to regain his sense of control he watches gay porn to "fuck himself," he gets off on a subconscious level from the imagery which supports the notion of one man punishing another man (both men representing himself) or "giving him what he deserves because he's a little bitch" and I think that's the way he is trying to feel like not a bitch and in control.
My hope is that he can take the control in his real life with his education, building a non-profit org with me which he is already doing some things for, and in general developing himself to who he wants to be.
I want us to help eachother develop instead of one trying to exact control over another. I don't mind playing the sub in bed cause I pwn real life but the hinge of our relationship will rest on whether or not he decides to man up and be brave enough to work on life with me to ACTUALLY gain control over his life and self-confidence instead of always running back to that false sense of security within gay porn.
 
May the universe bless you and your fiance.

Oddly, I can somewhat relate to the dilemma you are having. My fiance once said that she would change her gender, as she said she always has been androgynous in her mannerisms ever since she can remember. But, that of course was an exaggeration at the time, and she does have a feminine side. The reason she claimed that she would be willing to change her gender for me is because she knows that I am bisexual. However, when I commit to a relationship, I commit completely, and am able to "cut-off" an aspect of my sexuality. This doesn't imply that I let my balls turn blue in certain scenarios, I simply ignore men. Since I have been ignoring men, I have found them far less attractive than women, to the point where I would say I feel comfortably heterosexual. Now, of course, I never was uncomfortably bisexual.

So, in other words, I value my fiance more than I value my selfish exploratory sexual pursuits. I feel that monogamy is the only way I can function when it comes to being close and physical with people. I could never see myself with multiple partners. I would feel like my word means nothing, and my love and body is cheap.

He doesn't seek out new partners and when we are out places, he doesn't look at girls or guys...

It's almost like he's overdedicated to what I want at times, and he sacrifices his true thoughts to tell me what he thinks I want him to hear. I just want him to be him, cause it's his attraction to both kinds of sex that sexually attracts me, but I can tell that he's afraid to go there with me because he's afraid of how he thinks (once again incorrectly) I would react.

He has done things with/for me that he would never do with/for other people and he has told me that he plans on being with me forever. He even wants to have kids with me later down the road, but once we are financially stable, which is something that I am in complete agreeance with. I have no need for kids right now in life, but it says alot about who he really is that he wants kids with me because he admitted earlier in life he thought he would never find someone he wanted to have kids with.

It sounds like you understand what it takes to make your own life work and that is CRITICAL for understanding how to make a relationship work... I think that once my guy realizes and works on the practical parts of life he has problems with (since he is ADD and can't find a doc who will prescribe the meds he needs, he's been to 3 already who took his money and then told him to fuck himself... ironically enough) that he will find his compulsion to watch gay porn diminish. For one thing, if he starts being more active in his life, he literally will not have the free time to be bored and feel like he needs to run away to fantasyland.
 
Thanks for the honest replies - your first post had me confused as to how you were living and what you wanted.

The guy your living with now seems like he is reacting in a (I’m sorry to say it) but almost expected way - he is a bi-guy? He likes sex with men (who are men) and women (who are women) - and maybe the mix of a gay guy in a female body is just too confusing for him.

Gay guys like men - not just because they have a dick/balls but because they are 'men' with a different thought process, way of dealing with things and the entire lifestyle is different. Yes gay guys can find women attractive but the thought of sex with a woman or living with a woman just doesn’t have any appeal.

My transgender friends were living as women trapped inside a guys body - they lived as women though, they dressed as women, they thought as women, they acted like women. Sexually they had to sleep with gay guys as physically they were men but gained some satisfaction from it as they felt 'needed / loved' - they were never really happy though until their bodies were the same as their minds (female).

To have a ‘gay’ guy love you, sleep with you and live with you then you need to be a guy. When a guy is having sex with you they are seeing and thinking they are with a woman – regardless if you like anal sex, or like to be on top etc your still physically a woman.

I would love it for you to find somebody who can appreciate you for who you are

I believe the power of imagination can serve as a substitute for going through a traumatic change into another corporial form. Like I said, I'm fine keeping a woman's body. I don't think like a woman, I think like a man most of the time. Less emotion, more logic. So it's ok that he's attracted to me because I'm not mentally 100% female, that is compatible with who I really am. What is not compatible is the secrecy therefore implying that I am not as good, not as able to please him or give him what he needs as a porn.
 

I think there's still more to be discussed. kthx

Like if anyone has ever actually been in my shoes and could tell me what they did and how it turned out, that would be alot more helpful than advice from those that don't get who I am, where I am coming from, or at the very least the concept of psychosexual development in the context of developing relationships.

I am not looking for people to tell me what I should or shouldn't do because well, unless you discuss with me this situation at length, you aren't going to get the whole picture and therefore taking any advice would be premature and illogical. What I am looking for is anyone who will to tell me their experiences with relationships especially if they involve having a specific issue in the relationship and how both people worked to resolve it, so I can evaluate if anyone's actions would be integratable to my life. Like what Apostacious and most of what Noodle posted was exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for.
 
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I doubt you'll find someone in your exact predicament.

There is no working it out and I think you know that my friend.

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Although I must admit this thread has been a good read.

I know I like to organize my thoughts and evaluate my feelings from a point of detachment sometimes. Participating in this forum is a great outlet for just that sort of construction, at least for me.

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You're in a relationship with a bisexual man.

Don't take it personal when he watches gay porn or porn that only has men in it.

I think that most people watch porn or masturbate with sexual fantasies away from their partner, and that includes men and women.
 
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i don't think an openly bisexual man is going to be into a monogamous relationship with a woman. (??)
Why not? I know a few mono pansexuals who have had long-term relationships with people of any gender.

I don't think this falls under "uncategorised" as someone else mentioned - I think IAMWHY is a Girlfag.

"Girlfag refers to a biologically female individual who feels a strong romantic or erotic attraction towards gay or bisexual men, or their social environment. ... A girlfag might partly or wholly feel "like a gay man trapped in a woman's body". As girlfags feel a strong attraction to gay men/msm and to male-GBQ culture for its own sake, they have no interest in “turning gay men straight”."

Categorised, and well in the queer sphere. I've no idea why people are suggesting living as a man either, or are non-op trans not valid?

That isn't to say there aren't problems in the relationship, but I think you two need to sit and talk it out. Explain how you feel, and get him to speak honestly about how he feels and which genders (if any) he wants to be in relationships with.
 
Being envious of his attractions is not really logical when you really think about it.

I've known a lot of women that seem to believe they think like a man ( butch A-type lesbians included ) but when push comes to shove they are very much the same as that 'lip-stick' type that doesn't like her partner's eyes unconsciously wandering over that cute other girl's exposed cleavage out in public.

Come on ladies. You all know you want to think you are the only one--that he only has eyes for you.

That just isn't possible if the man has a a working libido. Gay and bisexual men are not exempt from having the same kind of impulsive hardwired desire to just look around.

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Read Priest's post over very carefully. He is very much correct.


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I believe the power of imagination can serve as a substitute for going through a traumatic change into another corporial form. Like I said, I'm fine keeping a woman's body. I don't think like a woman, I think like a man most of the time. Less emotion, more logic. So it's ok that he's attracted to me because I'm not mentally 100% female, that is compatible with who I really am. What is not compatible is the secrecy therefore implying that I am not as good, not as able to please him or give him what he needs as a porn.

Spoken as a woman though - you sound like your missing the point here (or assuming the person your with understands how complex a situation this is).

A Bi man likes sex with men and sex with women - if they are living with a woman they are missing out on the connection/sex with a guy. For them to fill this gap with porn isn’t cheating or lying or hiding anything from you, they are simply using porn to have the connection you can’t give (man on man). You are a woman (regardless how you think/feel) - when a man wants sex with a man then only a man will do, not a dominant female who likes to be on top.
I’m not being nasty and would never set out to hurt your feelings but - look in the mirror and what do you 'see' - when a guy is with you he will 'see' the same thing.
I personally think that for you to expect a gay man to treat you as a man when your physically a woman is nothing more than a fantasy – it’s simply not going to happen.
A Bi man will have a relationship with you as a woman
A straight man will have a relationship with you as a woman

I found it strange when you managed to get your guy to have sex with you when watching gay porn but then you felt out of place and were almost annoyed that he was zoning out – of course he is zoning out as he was thinking about having sex with a man.
 
A simple solution might be to not use porn as a "sex aid" at all.

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