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I need to quit Poppy Seed Tea, and I'd really like some advice before I begin

Sounds like crap pods to me, although that is an awful lot of dhc per day. How strong are your pills? Dhc 90s? If so that's an impressive 5g a day dhc you're getting through.

Switching to pods wont really help you much, especially if you get your mits on some good pods. You'll have to withdraw from them too, and they hurt just as much as the other big boys. I preferred heroin withdrawal to pod withdrawal, I really did. At least it was over relatively quick.

The one bonus to a good dose of pod is that one dose will hold you for 24 hours, just about. Other than that, you'll be just as screwed, only playing the game of source the pods endless instead of source the pills.

You say you hate the pills but aren't ready to jump. You sound like a prime candidate for subutex therapy to be. Subutex (buprenorphine) is an extremely potent, very long lasting synthetic opioid. You take it once a day, supplied by your chemist. To the opiate naive a mere 400ug will get them very high, but it doesn't have as great an effect on the opiate tolerant, such as you or I.

The great thing about bupe is it only offers a slight high to the addict for an hour or so after taking it. It will, however, keep withdrawal from dhc away completely, and will allow you to get structure and control back in your life. When you're in a better place, you begin the process of tapering off the bupe. You need to be in a good place because believe me, subutex withdrawal hurts like hell too.

Unfortunately, where opiates are concerned, once you've done the crime you got to eventually do the time.
 
Hey there ...
Thanks for replying to my questions ( plea for help)
I've decided to bin the pods ... Well for now anyway ... I know they kinda stopped me getting the WDs badly over the last couple of days however didn't feel any high or anything but to be honest I don't want to feel high I just want to feel "normal" and have the energy to get up and do the things I need to do ... I am battling with myself about going to the doctors and just laying it all out there the good bad and ugly in a bid that they will help me overcome this shitty life I've made for myself ....
I am not shifting the blame here at all ... Not one bit but surely my doctor will know that taking the tablets even how they were supposed to be taking would of resulted in addiction/ dependence ??
I always felt when I went there they would give me something to mask the pain rather than dealing with the cause ... Dya know what I mean??
I am now under a specialist for my condition which is shit to live with its not a nice illness to have however it's no where near as bad as the daily struggle I have with my pills .... My pills are 30mg pills and I could easily sit an take 40 at one time then top up later if needed I've found that taking a large amount at once instead of taking 10 4-6 xs a day keeps me going better than smaller doses and doing it this way it doesn't leave me with that disappointed feeling when I don't feel anything .. By feel anything I don't mean feel high they can't do that to me anymore I mean feel settled and content ... I disgust myself I really do.
I had a delivery today and I sat waiting by the window till they came like a kid waiting for Santa ....
I don't want to go from one addiction to another ... And by you telling me about subs it's made me rethink the ppt... I was only doing it to stay feeling "normal " and not a shaking sweating shivering mess .... I do not want any high I just want the energy to get up and get shit done ....after taking my pills today when they came I am just so disappointed with myself ... I thought right tmw when they come take 15 instead of 30 and just keep the WDs away ... But when they came I took 30....like just no willpower whatsoever ... I knew that taking 15 would not make me feel a thing and that taking 30 I'd be up and at it so I did ...I'm going to try again tomorrow and not take anymore today .... I do want to beat this ... I just didn't realise how bad it had got .... I'm a fucking junkie ....and my whole life is just one big fake lie !!!

Thank you for replying to me xx
 
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Don't beat yourself up about getting addicted. You're right, people predisposed are bound to end up as addicts, it's an absolute certainty. I remember the self evaluation I went through when it clicked that I was a 'junkie'.

You know what I learned? It's just a label. I'm also a parent, a good guy, a friend, a husband and many other good labels. Being a junkie doesn't make someone a bad person, just a person addicted to a drug. At the end of the day the addiction is your problem to solve, don't worry about what other people think. I go to work in a high functioning job every day, I do the school run, I go to the shops to buy food. Just like so many other more classically 'normal' people. I no longer hide the fact I'm a junkie, because if someone is going to judge me on that then I don't want them as a friend anyway.

I really do think you should speak to your doctor about subutex therapy. They'll understand.
 
Hey
I get what your saying I'm also doing the school run and being Mary poppins and doing everything a mother/ self employed person should do ... However it's the dependency for me ... It's knowing that if I didn't have them I'd be totally screwed !!
I can't stand having something have a grip of me this tightly !! ...
I don't want to be like this anymore ... I want to wake up and think of breakfast not pills .... I know there in the cupboard now and it's taking everything for me to not just neck them ...I've took 50 today ...
When I said I'd take 20 .... Greedy bastard that's all I am !! Fucking greedy twat ... Good job I'm not like this with food I'd be the size of a whale !!

I'm a bit out subs just because I've heard I'm going to get even more addicted ( if there is such a thing to that )
But I suppose it won't cost me a fortune and I won't be hunting for it everywhere .... Is that why your suggesting it so I get back to normality ... Without pill popping .. With it being just once a day ?
Btw ... Thanks for taking the time to reply ... Is junkies are really nice people arnt we hahahaha xx
 
You're not a greedy twat, you're just experiencing the escalation of addiction. Who doesn't like feeling good? That's always how this starts. Then soon enough we end up in the situation you're in now, where feeling good turns into a desparate race not to feel bad.

So stop beating yourself up, that's not going to help matters. Just do the best you can now go stop this getting any worse. The fact you want to address the issue is awesome in itself. It's not going to be easy, but few things in this life that are truly worth doing ever are.
 
Hey there

Thanks for the pep talk .... Was feeling rather shitty with myself ... So cheers :)
Liked your message " your not a greedy twat" lol
I had all these big plans that I'd buy 200 pills and I'd I'd start to reduce the amount I take straight away ... Have 15 instead of 30 yesterday morning and 10 instead of 20 yesterday teatime ... And .... I've got a 100 left so I i fucked my plans ... And only got 100 left because I went bowling with the kids and left them at home ...
Anyway tomorrow is a new day and I'm gonna take 10 in he morning with a pint of grapefruit juice as recommended by a friend ....

Thanks for getting back to me and for making my " feel sorry for myself " shitty mood go away ....
Some really cool decent people on here and it's nice not to be judged ....

If you ever want a rant or need a pep talk .. I'm here ?
 
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