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Hiya guys :)
I'm Paigeee

I'm 17 years old, & I smoke weed.. A lot. More than I'm happy with so i want to go to my doctor for advice & help on how I can stop.. I know everyone says that weed isn't addictive.. I beg to differ. I can honestly say that I don't see the point in getting out of bed if there isn't a joint waiting to be smoked.
I know I'm probably going to get a load of people telling me to just stop smoking it & all that, but there are personal reasons as to why I'm in the situation I am...

So anyway, I want to go to my doctor for help & advice, but because I'm only 17 I'm worried that he will tell my parents about it. Although I don't live at home, I'm just not sure I want my family knowing about it.. (Some people just don't get why we smoke it).
So can anyone tell me, will he tell my parents & what help will he actually be able to give me.

Happy smoking guys!
& Don't get too high ; )

Mwahh x
 
Hi Paige. Ok I am not a doctor so please take what I say with a bucket of salt. It sounds like you may be suffering from depression or just are in a depressing situation. I would definitely say go see a psychologist as they can help you talk through your problems, unpack any underlying causes and help you feel independent from cannabis. Even for under 18s a doctor cannot breech confidentiality without your consent (http://www.gmc-uk.org/guidance/ethi...dance_42_43_principles_of_confidentiality.asp).
Given that, this is still ambiguous territory as under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 "known or suspected drug addicts must be notified to the home office" (http://ministryofethics.co.uk/?p=6) I do not believe, however, that you are a drug addict and I know your doctor will not think so either! So go see a doctor if you feel that that is what will help you. Do not continue to suffer.
 
I think he can tell your parents if your under 18 (USA), but im not sure how much good advise he will give you.

Ask around on here for advise.
 
I also would suggest seeing a counselor or psychiatrist. It sounds like self-medicating. Weed just isn't physically addictive enough to be the primary culprit for not wanting to get out of bed.

I don't know how mandatory reporter requirements work in the UK, but I would be shocked if they notified anyone. What you do in a doctor's office is confidential unless you give consent for them to talk to others about it, and nothing of what you've described is serious enough for a doctor to break that. Your doctor is the best resource you can go to, far better than any random stranger on bluelight, and hopefully he or she can recommend a good counselor or specialist. You'll be amazed at how much better you'll feel after starting to unpack all of this to a proper medical professional.
 
Do NOT see a doctor unless you would like the possibility of legal actions taken... I smoke every day, why exactly would you like to stop and what is stopping you? your post is incredibly vague.. What happens when you do stop? most likely nothing. it is impossible to have physical withdraws from weed. Its all in your head. you have a psychological addiction which would much better fit a psychologist not a doctor.
 
Go see a therapist, not a doctor. The therapist will give you techniques to help you quit and work through your personal reasons for smoking. A doctor can't help you out much other than refer you to a therapist.
 
Do NOT see a doctor unless you would like the possibility of legal actions taken...

Uh, what? Unless OP is abusing a child while high or putting somebody other than herself in danger, NO doctor (or any medical professional, for that matter) can report illegal drug use. This would be a violation of the Federal Health Information Privacy and Accountability Act (HIPAA) which ALL medical professionals are required to sign upon entering the medical career field. The whole point of this act is so people can seek treatment for addictions without being reprimanded for it. If it were possible to get in legal turmoil by speaking with a medical professional, there would be no such thing as rehabilitation programs or addiction therapy. OP, don't worry about having legal actions taken against you for talking to a doctor about smoking marijuana of all drugs; that in itself is illegal.
 
OP, don't worry about having legal actions taken against you for talking to a doctor about smoking marijuana of all drugs; that in itself is illegal.



This.

Two "bad" thing could happen as a result of seeing the doctor and being open about your drug use:

1. Since your under 18, he may feel an obligation to tell your parents. You're damn close, though, and if it were me I wouldn't worry about that one.

2. If visiting your primary care physician, being open about drug use may exclude oft-abused prescriptions for any future injuries or ailments.




That's pretty much it in this situation. With what we've been told, law enforcement would not be involved here without there being some super fucked up part of your recent history that you're (the OP) leaving out.
 
Don't tell your doctor you are smoking weed. You will get labeled as a drug abuser and if you are unlucky enough to aquire chronic pain later in life, you will have problems getting medication. I don't see much good coming out of this, why do you feel the need to tell your doctor about that you are smoking too much weed? As said before if you feel like not getting out of bed just because you don't have weed, then you probably have other problems that you are trying to suppress by smoking. Try to figure out what it is exactly that makes life so intolerable without weed, then go see a therapist about those problems but leave the copious amount of weed smoking out of it would be my choice.
 
Hiya guys :)
I'm Paigeee

I'm 17 years old, & I smoke weed.. A lot. More than I'm happy with so i want to go to my doctor for advice & help on how I can stop.. I know everyone says that weed isn't addictive.. I beg to differ. I can honestly say that I don't see the point in getting out of bed if there isn't a joint waiting to be smoked.
I know I'm probably going to get a load of people telling me to just stop smoking it & all that, but there are personal reasons as to why I'm in the situation I am...

So anyway, I want to go to my doctor for help & advice, but because I'm only 17 I'm worried that he will tell my parents about it. Although I don't live at home, I'm just not sure I want my family knowing about it.. (Some people just don't get why we smoke it).
So can anyone tell me, will he tell my parents & what help will he actually be able to give me.

Happy smoking guys!
& Don't get too high ; )

Mwahh x
First of all, cannabis is very addictive. There is sufficient evidence for it and most of the people who will deny this are addicted themselves. To me personally it's more addictive than most major stimulants. The harm it causes is USUALLY not very high though which is why many people can keep smoking it their entire lives.

If you notice it has a very negative impact on your life, I'd strongly support your decision to quit. It's a beautiful drug for those who can handle their life very well under the influence or can do it occasionally opposed to daily or even constantly.

However there is no cannabis specific anti-addictive pharmacological treatment. It's a real shame, but the strength for that has to come from within you alone. On the other hand, if you can figure out the reasons why you need to smoke so much pot, there might be treatment options for the underlying problems.

In my case I've been self medicating with cannabis for bipolar 1 disorder. While this has been pretty successful, cannabis also inhibits many aspects of my personality which I consider problematic.

Talk to a doctor and see if you can get free psychotherapy where you live. Most psychopharmceuticals a psychiatrist will offer you have heavy side effects that you may not find much more desirable than those of cannabis. :/ Gotta be strong. Good luck with that!


EDIT In my experience, the dangers pointed out by others here are not actual threats. Your doctor is supposed to help you best he can and he will try to do that, as he is bound to it by oath. If you come to him with the desire to quit using cannabis, he has no reason to tell your parents since it would not prevent any harm. The stuff about labelling you as a drug abuser is pure paranoia imho. I've been to hospitals with pain and told them I was a heavy drug abuser and still got medicated with high dose opiates (80mg Oxy per day). The logistics in the health care system do not work this way. At least in my country (Germany) there is no central digital register where they can check your entire medical history. Besides: When you have pain, they HAVE TO TREAT you for it. Sorry, but this is just bullshit and I don't know where people get this stuff.
If you have been excluded from certain treatments, it's probably because there was a good reason for it. If someone has strong pain, opiates are the only option.
 
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WRONG.
come on be honest. weed can be addictive, physically and mentally. and you know that, too.
I really wonder why people feel the need to tell these lies (especially the one about lack of physical withdrawals from cannabis and addiction), does it simply serve to justify their own habit in some way or is it because they're afraid the truth is gonna hinder progress on a political level when it comes to decriminalization of marihuana? You can still take a drug that causes physical withdrawals, if you decide it improves your quality of life. No judgement from me. Just don't lie to people about the facts and try to remain objective when others seek information.

Bluelight has always been a great source of information and a safe haven for harm reduction, but I feel like these principles stop right when I enter the cannabis subforums. It seems whoever has a diverse or even critical view on cannabis gets jumped by 100 others.

Shit I've been smoking pot in small amounts daily for 15 years, so I'm the fucking last one who's gonna hate on this substance and try to spread some negative propaganda. Unfortunately 99% of the people who publicly express their opinion on the topic seem to be either extremely critical of cannabis OR they completely deny all kinds of ill effects that could come off it which is just preposterous.

EDIT: There have been substances tested for this purpose (e.g. URB597), but none of them seem very promising at all from what I could gather and surely none of these are available through your doc.
 
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I dont think its as high as 99% of stoners refuting. A lot of people here on BL who dealt with benzo, booze, or opiate withdrawals will mock the possibility of weed W/Ds. Ive practically argued until I was blue in the face in this forum recently trying to tell some opiate abusers that heavy cannabis DOES cause physical withdrawals. Only to be told "Youve never withdrawn until youre spraying diahrea and vomiting simultaneously and unable to move from bed" in essence. I

Fact is upon cessation many heavy users will experience significant disturbances to vital bodily functions like appetite and sleep regulations for a week or two, more for heavier users. Ive experienced nausea upon cessation, presumably because Im no longer bombing my system with a powerful anti-nausea agent during every waking hour.

Beats the shit out of benzo and booze WDs in my opinion though, cant speak on opiates.
 
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Hiya guys :)
I'm Paigeee

I'm 17 years old, & I smoke weed.. A lot. More than I'm happy with so i want to go to my doctor for advice & help on how I can stop.. I know everyone says that weed isn't addictive.. I beg to differ. I can honestly say that I don't see the point in getting out of bed if there isn't a joint waiting to be smoked.
I know I'm probably going to get a load of people telling me to just stop smoking it & all that, but there are personal reasons as to why I'm in the situation I am...

So anyway, I want to go to my doctor for help & advice, but because I'm only 17 I'm worried that he will tell my parents about it. Although I don't live at home, I'm just not sure I want my family knowing about it.. (Some people just don't get why we smoke it).
So can anyone tell me, will he tell my parents & what help will he actually be able to give me.

Happy smoking guys!
& Don't get too high ; )

Mwahh x

I see your from England, stop mixing tobacco in with your cannabis. This is likely what is causing you to be addicted to it. Quit nicotine as a whole if this is the case and start to vaporize cannabis instead. A good amount of cannabinoids is healthy and you will find once you start vaping, the amount of herbs you use will go right down :) Also crOOk there is not sufficient evidence to prove cannabinoids are physically addictive/on par with other physically addictive substances such as methamphetamine/nicotine/heroin. So far all that has been proven is psychological addiction similar to an addiction to video gaming/internet/sex/junk food and anything else you can take enjoyment in.
 
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Do NOT see a doctor unless you would like the possibility of legal actions taken... I smoke every day, why exactly would you like to stop and what is stopping you? your post is incredibly vague.. What happens when you do stop? most likely nothing. it is impossible to have physical withdraws from weed. Its all in your head. you have a psychological addiction which would much better fit a psychologist not a doctor.

lol, be a 3g(minimum, of course)+ a day smoker for multiple years then suddenly stop. then say you won't have physical withdraws.... hah.
 
I also would suggest seeing a counselor or psychiatrist. It sounds like self-medicating. Weed just isn't physically addictive enough to be the primary culprit for not wanting to get out of bed.
I tend to agree there and this explanation makes perfect sense.
However there are individuals who do experience symptoms of a MDD induced by the cessation of cannabis use. These symptoms will usually appear once the largest amount of the metabolites have left the body, not one or two days after cessation. This is the reason why a good psychiatrist will recommend a long term heavy cannabis user to give himself intervals of on and off use before quitting altogether. Unfortunately, there are few such good psychiatrists out there who have a differentiated and educated view on cannabis. Whichever way one looks at it, if the problem becomes to severe to handle on his own for the op, seeing a psychiatrist is most definitely the way to go and I see no harm that could come off it.

I see your from England, stop mixing tobacco in with your cannabis. This is likely what is causing you to be addicted to it. Quit nicotine as a whole if this is the case and start to vaporize cannabis instead. A good amount of cannabinoids is healthy and you will find once you start vaping, the amount of herbs you use will go right down :) Also crOOk there is not sufficient evidence to prove cannabinoids are physically addictive/on par with other physically addictive substances such as methamphetamine/nicotine/heroin. So far all that has been proven is psychological addiction similar to an addiction to video gaming/internet/sex/junk food and anything else you can take enjoyment in.
I find it very hard to take you serious, but I will try. How can you make such a broad statement that cannabis is "healthy" in small amounts? This is complete and utter medical nonsense. I am glad if you can prove me wrong (with scientific articles please, no pothead propaganda).

As for the dependence, take this meta study for example: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15514394
You could also just listen to people around you who will report very clearly what symptoms cannabis withdrawal produces for them. If you would listen that is which I strongly sense you don't.

Of course the dependence isn't pm par with heroin and nobody ever claimed that. Why would you even such a thing?
 
I dont think its as high as 99% of stoners refuting. A lot of people here on BL who dealt with benzo, booze, or opiate withdrawals will mock the possibility of weed W/Ds. Ive practically argued until I was blue in the face in this forum recently trying to tell some opiate abusers that heavy cannabis DOES cause physical withdrawals. Only to be told "Youve never withdrawn until youre spraying diahrea and vomiting simultaneously and unable to move from bed" in essence. I

Fact is upon cessation many heavy users will experience significant disturbances to vital bodily functions like appetite and sleep regulations for a week or two, more for heavier users. Ive experienced nausea upon cessation, presumably because Im no longer bombing my system with a powerful anti-nausea agent during every waking hour.

Beats the shit out of benzo and booze WDs in my opinion though, cant speak on opiates.

Weed withdrawals are real. I get symptoms from it, it's not just "in your head" like my friends tell me.
 
First of all, cannabis is very addictive. There is sufficient evidence for it and most of the people who will deny this are addicted themselves. To me personally it's more addictive than most major stimulants. The harm it causes is USUALLY not very high though which is why many people can keep smoking it their entire lives.
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First of all, cannabis is very addictive is a pretty broad sweeping statement and 'very' seems like a difficult term to justify and quantify. And when you follow it up with
more addictive than most major stimulants
you shouldn't really be surprised if people stop listening to you. That statement alone puts you in the same extreme, entrenched camp as people who say cannabis is not at all addictive.

If a fairly mild, interrupted sleep pattern on cessation equates to physical addiction, then sure, cannabis is physically addictive. IME, there aren't any more symptoms to back up your argument, certainly none that will justify the use of the term 'very addictive'. I smoked dope pretty much non-stop for thirty years, holding down employment, family and mortgage with no problem whatsoever and then decided I'd been successful enough (my house is paid for) to go travelling. For six months. The first three months of this was travelling South America. Where I had no intention of buying drugs.

Because of prevalent attitudes like yours, I was worried how the fuck I was going to cope without my daily cannabis fix. I went 100 days without a spliff and barely noticed it save, as I say, for the mildly interrupted sleep pattern at the start. And even that had its advantages. Sure, for seven days or so you get some fairly hideous dreams. Following that you get 1-2 weeks worth of the most heavenly intense dreams...unimaginable. If that equals 'very addicted' then shit, maybe addiction ain't as bad as its cracked up to be.

To the OP. Who can't imagine a reason for getting out of bed if there is no joint. That's not a cannabis problem. That's a life problem. Your primary concern is not an addiction to cannabis, it's about running away from the shite your life has become. That's what you need to see a doctor or psychiatrist about, not some imagined bogeyman of cannabis addiction.
 
Cannabis is addictive, mentally and physically! Look for cannabis withdrawal symptom in the scientific literature and you'll find it has become relatively well established in recent years. I've experienced it several times myself in my more heavy days. Irritability, outbursts of intense anger, lack of concentration, appetite and sleep problems being the most annoying withdrawal effects. All these people claiming it's impossible to get addicted to weed, you are wrong. Most stoner friends I had in the past would happily deny this though and say they just smoked because they enjoyed it. Stoners like to delude themselves with this mentality and a daily heavy smoking habit can help promote and maintain this mentality.

To the OP, what I always did when I thought it was down to cut down on my excessive smoking is to stop smoking during the day. Keep yourself busy, clean, go exercise go to school/work whatever and then only smoke in the evening. In the beginning you can keep it easy and smoke as much as you like, but get into the habit of not starting the day high. This just means you'll keep smoking for the rest of the day. Once you've got that down focus on smoking less at night. Cut it down to a joint at night.

I also always mixed my joints with tobacco and I'd get cravings for a joint (or so I thought). Having a cigarette can take this craving for a joint away. Of course smoking cigarettes isn't good for you, but it can help in the beginning to get out of your cannabis habit.

It sounds like you have other problems in your life. I don't know if it's necessary to go to the doctor or not, but I find that cannabis clouds my judgement with regards to my own life when it's a heavy habit. Cutting down/quitting can help de-cloud your mind and help you figure out what is wrong, it's also more than likely that you'll have more energy/motivation in the day to actually go ahead and do something about it, rather than smoking your troubles away, as I used to do as well :).
 
First of all, cannabis is very addictive is a pretty broad sweeping statement and 'very' seems like a difficult term to justify and quantify. And when you follow it up with you shouldn't really be surprised if people stop listening to you. That statement alone puts you in the same extreme, entrenched camp as people who say cannabis is not at all addictive.

If a fairly mild, interrupted sleep pattern on cessation equates to physical addiction, then sure, cannabis is physically addictive. IME, there aren't any more symptoms to back up your argument, certainly none that will justify the use of the term 'very addictive'. I smoked dope pretty much non-stop for thirty years, holding down employment, family and mortgage with no problem whatsoever and then decided I'd been successful enough (my house is paid for) to go travelling. For six months. The first three months of this was travelling South America. Where I had no intention of buying drugs.

Because of prevalent attitudes like yours, I was worried how the fuck I was going to cope without my daily cannabis fix. I went 100 days without a spliff and barely noticed it save, as I say, for the mildly interrupted sleep pattern at the start. And even that had its advantages. Sure, for seven days or so you get some fairly hideous dreams. Following that you get 1-2 weeks worth of the most heavenly intense dreams...unimaginable. If that equals 'very addicted' then shit, maybe addiction ain't as bad as its cracked up to be.

To the OP. Who can't imagine a reason for getting out of bed if there is no joint. That's not a cannabis problem. That's a life problem. Your primary concern is not an addiction to cannabis, it's about running away from the shite your life has become. That's what you need to see a doctor or psychiatrist about, not some imagined bogeyman of cannabis addiction.
Nice quote there, totally taken out of context. Bravo, I can see where this is going now. I was waiting for it since this will always happen when a single critical word about cannabis is spoken here. I'm not surprised your looking for ways to twist my words around and decrease my credibility, while other people in this thread unhinderedly claim cannabis possessed no sort of negative side effects. I'm quite positive that this sort of thinking could be considered delusional and is no better than the other political extreme of those who still want to see it banished from the earth. Now here I am TRYING to find a middle ground that will not provoke this idiotic discussion, that the op will not profit off in any way and you come and attack me by intentionally misquoting. Why?

I'd say my opinion on cannabis is as differentiated as it can be, but it is not forbidden to talk about my own experience here, right? It shouldn't be after people in the above posts have claimed there was no addiction which extremely disrespectful to those who have experienced such. For me cannabis addiction has been a far bigger problem to overcome than stimulant addiction. For most people this is not the case, I am an extreme case in that respect and there is no denying it. But if you think that puts my views on cannabis into any sort of extreme position you are wrong. It is simply what I experienced after 15 years of daily drug use. I still would much rather consume pot daily than amphetamine and I surely don't think everyone gets that addicted to cannabis, but I think it covers up the truth a lot more to tell people there was no addiction to cannabis at all.

Your fear to quit was NOT due to my attitude towards cannabis which I try to have as little of as possible. I try to have an educated opinion. In fact, I find consuming cannabis highly pleasurable myself and condone it's use over the use of pretty much every other recreational drug. When I don't smoke, I'll still have pot for guests.
Acquiring such an opinion over the last 15 years (of daily use) was a pain in the ass because nobody will adequately inform you about it. It's either a heal-all-illness cure and can in no way bring harm to anyone (the opinion you prefer to team up with) or it turns you into a lazy psychotic failure and needs to remain an illegal drug. It took me 15 years of careful observations and reading to come to terms with the harm and benefit my own cannabis use or self medication.

Btw I am happy to hear your success story there. You are simply talking about dependence there though which you attested there is to some degree, even if it was relatively mild for you which it is NOT for some others. I can go and start pasting scientific articles about case reports if you like. I am not even gonna try to explain to you what happens to me when I quit so you won't try to make me look like a jackass again.

Your being able to hold a job for 100 years, marrying the queen of antarctica, giving her one child for every star in the sky, becoming a billionaire and sailing the seven seas contributes nothing to explaining cannabis potential for addiction. dependence or harm to mental or somatic health. It simply has nothing to do with it. Ok, you're not a filthy long haired cliché stoner, we got it. Nobody would have ever claimed anything like it, I surely would not have.

However, some people DO run into problems, either social, academical or legal problems or problems regarding their somatic or psychological health. Often times cannabis can contribute to or even be the cause for these issues and only then does it's addictive potential reveal itself.

And btw while I do think I know what you are trying to say, can you please tell me in all honesty if you can draw a clear line between a "cannabis problem" and a "life problem" when a person has been consuming cannabis either daily or with only short periods of abstinence? Even if you could pinpoint exactly whether a problem was related to cannabis use or "life" (which I claim you cannot), does cannabis not affect a person's behaviour and thereby his life?
 
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