5 grams dry is the dose that I took on the trip that changed my life. I'm not certain whether my brain chemistry is unusual or I just love tripping, but I find that the average dose of anything leaves something to be desired. We're all spitballing here, but I think the way that I like to trip is to take the highest dose possible without making the trip about being overwhelmed by the trip. And that maximum is different for everyone.That said, an eighth is a pretty normal dose for mushrooms and I've had fantastic trips on that much.