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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

Cocaine Getting into it. What should I lookout for?

Thanks about alcohol. Was never into it, so that’s good barrier for me to observe. So, no alcohol then.

I smoke weed/hash along with snorting. Sometimes I take a little of Xanax before the session.

Emotional avoidance is number one issue for me. But I do that anyway and even more so if I am not using, because then I am more depressed because there is no upcoming fun in the evening. I am not seeing this worsening as of yet, but that’s what I am keeping my eye on.

I am also very active physically, run at least 10 miles per day at rather quick pace. That’s another indicator of me going down too much. Meaning if my sports performance goes down of I am missing training sessions.

Bought neti pot and tried it once already - fabulous, just what the doctor ordered.
 
I smoke weed/hash along with snorting. Sometimes I take a little of Xanax before the session.

I would save the Xanax for when you are done snorting cocaine in a session. By taking it beforehand, you are literally blunting the cocaine high and you are thus going to be dosing with more cocaine than is necessary. If you're too edgy/anxious while on the cocaine, you're either doing too much or just shouldn't be doing cocaine at all. The weed/hash is fine in my experience, though it increases the risk of paranoia/mental illness in some people and is worth keeping in mind.

Good luck.
 
Make sure you don't have an underlying heart condition, or you could be playing russian roulette.
And as BK38 said, avoid alcohol at all costs if you're taking cocaine multiple times a day. Cocaethylene is extremely toxic stuff (and more addictive).

If I understood correctly you recently started using coke and now you do it a couple of times a day?
The issue is that your habit will only get worse if you keep going, and unless you live in latinamerica you could end up spending a fortune of it. Seems very risky if you have a family.

I think it would be a good idea to figure out what exactly are you self-medicating for, because there might be a better alternative.
Cocaine will fix some common problems such as boredom, depression, social anxiety, etc... But only in the very short-term, it's not a very functional stimulant either since it lasts so little.

Something to keep in mind is that cocaine is one of the most reinforcing drugs out there and if you do it every day at home you're kinda conditioning yourself. There's a thing called "conditioned place preference" which plays a pretty significant role in stimulant addiction, so after a while you may have a hard time giving up the habit and experience strong cravings even when you're just relaxing at home.
 
@4meSM thanks, lots of useful advice. Especially, conditioning/reinforcement - I like routines very much and I feel like I just found this very rewarding and fun routine that puts me into good mood for the whole day. Should be careful about that, maybe start building / thinking about routines of getting out of partying.

Cost factor is very significant but I don’t have much cash available at any given day and I can’t think I could engage in something criminal to get additional cash. Never did anything remotely like that. So, I probably won’t use if I don’t have cash. Which is for the better.

I used Concerta (methylphenidate extended release) daily for a few years. But stopped recently since I realized I am much more looking for fun and higher levels of intoxication than moderate buzz Concerta provided.

I am anti boredom, fun seeking, being interested and enthusiastic type of drug user I guess. And as for drugs choice - I use what is available at my location. Coke was not my first choice of stimulant, amphetamine would be, but now I am liking coke more and amph is possibly more destructive overall because of its’ much longer duration of effects.
 
People mention not mixing alcohol with coke for good reason, but Xanax acts similarly to alcohol as well, so I'd be cautious with that too if I were you. Also, I use to be prescribed Concerta while I was in highschool and before I dropped out of junior college. It was useful to keep me focused for school, but after I dropped out I quit on the spot and didn't have any withdrawals. The only stimulant I do daily now is a cup of coffee to wake me up. I never cared for stimulants (I prefer opiates/opioids), but if i did, I'd choose amphetamines over coke. They're less expensive and much longer-lasting, which means more bang for your buck, if you ask me. I'd rather take 1 dose of amphetamines a day than have to redose several times a day with coke.
 
People mention not mixing alcohol with coke for good reason, but Xanax acts similarly to alcohol as well, so I'd be cautious with that too if I were you.
The combination of xanax (or any benzo) and cocaine is actually physically safe, in fact it might be helpful if you're overstimulated.

The reason why alcohol and cocaine is dangerous is not because alcohol is a downer and cocaine an upper. It's because the liver metabolizes a good percentage of the cocaine you took into cocaethylene in the precense of ethanol, even with a low amount (said 1 or 2 beers).
And the other reason is because alcohol isn't a true downer, it's a very dirty downer which has cardiotoxic and hepatotoxic effects on its own. The combination dramatically increases your chances of sudden death and overall toxicity.

However benzos and coke can of course be a problematic combo as well, you may take more cocaine than usual due to less side effects (thanks to benzos). Plus theres a pretty significant probability of benzo addiction.

Edit: what I meant by "physically safe" is that cocaine+benzos isn't more dangerous than cocaine by itself. Cocaine still carries significant risks but at least you're significantly less likely to die (or have serious problems) if you don't mix it with alcohol.
 
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The combination of xanax (or any benzo) and cocaine is actually physically safe, in fact it might be helpful if you're overstimulated.

The reason why alcohol and cocaine is dangerous is not because alcohol is a downer and cocaine an upper. It's because the liver metabolizes a good percentage of the cocaine you took into cocaethylene in the precense of ethanol, even with a low amount (said 1 or 2 beers).
And the other reason is because alcohol isn't a true downer, it's a very dirty downer which has cardiotoxic and hepatotoxic effects on its own. The combination dramatically increases your chances of sudden death and overall toxicity.

However benzos and coke can of course be a problematic combo as well, you may take more cocaine than usual due to less side effects (thanks to benzos). Plus theres a pretty significant probability of benzo addiction.

Edit: what I meant by "physically safe" is that cocaine+benzos isn't more dangerous than cocaine by itself. Cocaine still carries significant risks but at least you're significantly less likely to die (or have serious problems) if you don't mix it with alcohol.
mix a lot of times coke and alcohol, what problems i can have?
 
Started using daily, every evening. Of course that won’t go of because of financial and psichic stress reasons,
If that won't go, the sooner you start cutting it down the better. Plan how much money you can spend in the long term without trouble, and give a generous margin just in case something happens in the future that reduces your income, and stick with that spend.

I find it easier to keep longer breaks and then treat yourself using a gram (or being used by a gram) in a couple of days than trying to use small amounts every other day, for example
 
I find it easier to keep longer breaks and then treat yourself using a gram (or being used by a gram) in a couple of days than trying to use small amounts every other day, for example
I already switched to this. It was crazy talk about using often (cocaine). The drug is interesting, but really disruptive and expensive. No way.
 
I would just like to remember you.. Don't go broke. Cocaïne costs a lot of money and don't waste it on it
 
You’re 34, no offence and not to freak you out but don’t count your chickens and your dr should have done up bloods too. I’d like to see how your liver, kidneys and thyroid are working.

I've had more blood tests than hot meals cos of the meds im on and they always come back normal.
 
Started using daily, every evening. Of course that won’t go of because of financial and psichic stress reasons, but I could easily see this drug becoming my main staple wherever I’d see opportunity to use.

If you can sort advice from immediate to average-term lookouts.

I have family and kids. That’s probably number one thing I worry about.
You are going to lose EVERYTHING , pls don't fuck up your life.
 
Purchased some coke and using again after a month break. Happy as a duck or something :)
 
Here are some things to consider if you absolutely cannot be talked out of stopping altogether.

1) Trust your family more than yourself when it comes to your behavior and whether it's a problem.
2) At some point you are likely to encounter negative effects like appetite suppression and sleep deprivation (or the results of those things like paranoia). In an effort to not give up your cure for boredom you may be tempted to "self medicate" to compensate. Opiates, alcohol, and benzos are popular choices for that. DON'T DO IT. The answer is never more drugs, but less. Many a speed-freak found themselves accidently a junkie that way.
3) Testing is a fantastic idea, but if you are tight on cash, that is likely to go right out the window. You'll tell yourself "it's been OK so far, so it's probably good." If you catch a fentanyl-laced batch, that mistake might be fatal. Maybe have some narcan on hand and let whoever you are with know its there and how to use it in case of emergency. Fentanyl is potent, the little sample you test may have none in it, but what you put up your nose might. You bought it from a drug dealer, even if he knows fentanyl is in there (and he may not), it's unlikely to be evenly distributed.
4) Having lines drawn to act as "warning signs" for you is not as helpful as it might seem. I don't know who originally said it but, "The chains of addiction are too weak to be felt until they are too strong to be broken." Addiction will sweet-talk you into crossing any line you draw for yourself. It's slow and it's subtle. Don't be cocky.

NEVER EVER forget that you are playing with fire. Your judgement is effected even after you no longer feel high. You are gambling with your life and your health and cocaine is the casino. In the long run the house usually, if not always, wins.

Think carefully. Are you SURE you haven't ALREADY crossed one of your lines? Before you did it the first time, did you tell yourself that doing it every day would be acceptable? Has money you SHOULD HAVE spent on something or been saved ever gone to getting coke instead?

There are people who recreationally use coke, I know a few. None of them does it daily. Or even weekly. There are a lot of negative and serious consequences that are involved with using drugs and some of them affect the ones you love more than they affect you.

All it takes is to get arrested for possession or losing your job from a failed drug test to drastically alter your life for the worse, so don't forget those possible consequences as well.

Not all drugs are "bad". There aren't any drugs that are inherently good either. In my experience drugs like coke, crack, meth, opiates, and benzos have a nack for getting out of control before you have a chance to stop. I'd advise cutting back your usage before you drop the reigns if you want to keep coke part of your life without destroying it. Every once in a while see if you can arbitrarily stop for lets say a month or two. Simply just because. You might find you can't do it, or that you start telling yourself you'll try it next week, or tomorrow, but never TODAY.

I used to abuse drugs. I threw away everything I had. Several times. Don't get me wrong, I like drugs and I still use drugs, but I had to cut out all of the ones I mentioned in the previous paragraph to stop USE from becoming ABUSE and ruining my life yet again (at least SO FAR). I'm not saying that's the case with you, but I have been exactly where you are and ended up where I am... Please be careful. Please be safe. Don't ever drop your guard.

Good luck.
 
1) Trust your family more than yourself when it comes to your behavior and whether it's a problem.
Want to tell my wife so very much. But fear it could be obstacle to further use.

Think carefully
Do this. Looking back, I haven't really thought through any major decision.

There are people who recreationally use coke, I know a few. None of them does it daily. Or even weekly.
Monthly it is for me now. It is sustainable financially, too.

I used to abuse drugs. Don't ever drop your guard.

Good luck.
Thanks! I am on my guard like hell, I think.
 
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