just a day or so? i'm curious, how long do you usually wait and how much dope do you gotta do to make it worth it?
i've been on 8mgs of bupe for a little over a year now and that managed my cravings pretty well, not perfectly, but i haven't used. just recently i've been cutting my dose down and now i take 4mgs most days, and it's rough; i think about tryin to cop every day, but i have no connections now and i'm afraid to risk going into the ghetto by myself and then bringing something back into the suburbs. used to be able to bring myself to do that, but i'm just not the kind of girl that can get away with it for too long without getting robbed, ripped off, or picked up by the cops. all of which has happened to me in the past. which probably means i should just stay out of the whole scene for good but deep down i know that it's only a matter of time.... UHG! i hate this...
but anyway, i've heard a lot of conflicting info on how long one should be off of bupe before doing a full agonist. i would hate to go through the trouble of procuring some h and then do it too soon and waste it. but i can't seem to go longer than a day without sub and the thought of coming off of it for good is terrifying, even though i want to so bad. what i'd like to do is go back to dope for maybe a month and then just cold turkey it--because at least i know what to expect and i know i can handle it. plus i recently lost my insurance and between doctor's appointments and the prescription it's just so expensive; spending that much money on drugs makes me feel like i might as well be using!
okay, i'm done venting now.
First off, this guy is talking BS in other threads. I, also, take 12mg a day, and nothing goes through it, even if I wait 48 hours and feel kinda bad, I did it once, tried to have some of my DOC (I had offers since I'm on methadone and bupe that would make my old self, the one without the liquid cuffs or bupe prison's head explode, especially the 64 4mg brand Dillies. Well guess, what, when I was shooting up dillies, you know the first thing you want is the rush, its all about the rush, opi-crack, I would shoot one 4mg, or break another in two and 2 4mg to 8mg shots every hour or two going between 32 to 64mg of dilaudid/hm contin a day. Waiting 48 hours after no bupe, especially not at 12 mg (I rarely take 12mg, I mostly take it when I am forced to, when I pick up my week's takehomes, I have one dose that is supervised. Often I'll take 10 or 8. Anyways, I had to shoot 20mg of Dilaudid to feel something, and all it was, was the stacked up respiratory depression from the bupe that's still glued like NOTHING ELSE can, that we know of, stick to my mu receptors. It was a very unpleasant feeling as I was completely awake, something I get bupe nods, but they're random, and usually require hydroxyzine. Well I'm glad I wasn't because I had to use my Symbicort inhaler, which I rarely use since I stopped smoking cigs (8 months hoorah) to get out of that under-the-water feeling. Thankfully it's a fast acting long acting bronchodilator. Look at the bupe thread itself. Everyone's story who's not a nobody of a dweeb is like mine, because what? Science, bitch, suboxone stacks, it's imbecility to have people use it for maintenance longer than 3 months.
When I was on methadone, I could shoot up if I only had a small drink of my bottle (I had all my takehomes when I dared shooting up). I remember a particular instance where I ate a 40mg Oxycodone-CR (gen) that was crushed then shot 8mg of dilaudid. Everytime I did, I got DAT RUSH and it seemed to synergize with the little methadone I had that day (Just like, a couple sips off my then always very full with orange juice methadone bottles) and the other full dose was 24 hours before that. The oxycontin 40mg was felt for about 6 hours, since it was generic and just crushed it, the Apotex don't crush as easily as the Cobalts but they do so, and are the ones looking the most like the old school CDN's.
That guy will mention that he was on extremely high doses of Methadone when nothing went through it. It's besides the point. Of course the fact when I even had the oppurtunity to try fun opiates was when I was already dosing down 2-3mg every month for an eventual switch due to health issues brought on by the 'done, and the max dose I had was 60, I think I was at 54mg when I first tried, well I had 54mg the day before, and a few sips of the next day upon waking. I had a year long script for tagamet 600mg pills, didn't use em everyday, but yeah, I could have excreted the methadone faster (oh boy its funny the pharmacists didn't even object to the cimetidine script, which happened before when I was only on 2mg of clonazepam a day and got a script of the smallest dose tagamets, I think 75mg and the pharmacist was like, did YOU ask for this med ?, I said yes, I had it before, which is true, it was in the aisles until it wasn't and was made rx only sometimes in the early 2000's. She let me pick them up, and I was about to say look, we're both the same age (she was there since 3 years), I can tell you cimetidine doesn't boost clonazepam, but I didn't. Anyway tangential end of story over. BBT won't say he's BS'ing and will probably be outraged that I am calling him out, but I've noticed the pattern buddy
As for opiophile, maybe they would have had more money from supporting members, if they let people become members. I was a member but I forgot my login/password and was given zero help.