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I suspect this is to do with abusing your ''bath salts''.
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It started happening first when I was on MXE.
That's why I kept flushing it. You guys remember that?

So I kept doing it, and it kept happening. One night I'm pretty sure I almost died. My attacks did not go away in the presence of others. I was fishing around on the floor.

So I quit the MXE altogether.
Then I went to the "cocaine-like" bath salts at the gas station. 8)
For some reason I figured these would be more friendly on my system.
I was wrong, and now I'm in the worst condition yet.

I never had a panic attack before. If this is a panic attack and I have to get them every day now, that would be really shitty.

For some reason it seems like internal problems to me though. I feel stuff going on. I got a sooner appointment with the specialist so we'll know soon. :p
 
How about a small (sub-psychedelic) smoke of DMT? I find it really calms me down if I've been stressing over anything (or on stimulants -- which is kind of the same thing).
 
Haha, I dunno dood that might be mental suicide. lol

I'll give it a good while. I need a break from drugs. I can't even keep myself away from herbs right now.
Got some good medical hashish yesterday and took a fat rip and it caused a "death anxiety" episode again.
SOB I can't get away with anything right now. Trying my hardest not to even smoke a bowl today.
I'll probably crack soon..

Gonna go walk around the lake a few times and try and catch a bass and relax.
I'm sure I'm due for another "fit" at some point today. This is kinda ridiculous already.
Doesn't make sense.

Overdid the MXE a few times now same thing happens on any drug I do.

It's like flashbacks from the few times I almost died or something. I don't get it.
I guess I'll just give up and call it "anxiety"... but I'm quite reluctant to do so.
Plus there's that kidney thing. I can only wait for that..
 
I bet you never knew this, but weed causes anxiety! =D Go with the DMT, I'd suggest!
"Catch a bass" - that's so cool!
 
Mu-ham-mad said:
I bet you never knew this, but weed causes anxiety! =D Go with the DMT, I'd suggest!
"Catch a bass" - that's so cool!
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I know weed causes anxiety... I know you're probably just joking too.
I've been burning the ganj for 15 years. Never had anxiety like this on pot. ;)
This is much much different.

So far so good today, but the attacks come in the afternoon yesterday and the day before so I may still be in for a ride..

Rather odd that I'm just sitting here completely calm waiting for a panic/death attack.
I'm heading out f'sho.
 
I think weed is more "effective" at causing anxiety if you're physically not feeling 100%. I've recently had some health problems that left me feeling a bit light-headed and not-right, and in that state, smoking weed caused much more anxiety than it did while I was feeling healthy.
 
mexr said:
I was wondering what you guys think abou the idea of using MXE for depression? I was thinking of taking 20-30mg 3 times a week instead of an ssri. I won't be using any other drugs. Has anyone tried a dosing regimen like this? I used to use recreationally for about 5 months peaking at a gram a week and it ended in a lot of bad things happening. The last few months I've been completely sober but quite depressed (which I've been dealing with for a long time but since I quit smoking week daily and dabbling in other drugs I really notice it). Basically I love the way mxe made me feel positive and at ease but I did it so much that effect turned into mania and I began having delusions and acting odd. I really dislike my emotional state even tho objectively my life is quite good, I don't want to be on an ssri. Am I just grasping at straws or is there something to this idea? I basically want to keep a very slight afterglow feeling all the time, not going over 100mg a week. Is it possible tolerance won't build up at this dosage?
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i tried that and for some time it seemed to work but in fact it didnt. it made me manic. and the more trips i did the more manic i got. i was in euphoria, had lots of ideas and creativity went up but i was almost like on coke, eventually leading to symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia, which required several weeks of hospitalization to go away (its not fun to be in some kind of philip k dick novel).

i dont think this was a classical psychosis, more like a build up of secondary effects, not unlike the ad effects of ket, except that it made me bonkers. one could argue about my conclusion but i think its not that far fetched. maybe it was an eventual upregultion of d2 or something. i also felt the exact opposite after coming down. almost burned out, lack of creativity, etc. i would strongly advice against any "daily life" self medication with mxe, especially if your mind is somewhat unstable. this is not ket, dont tread it as such. you wouldnt try to tread your depression with pcp would you?
 
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I can smoke weed in the morning like right now and I'm OK.
The weird death attacks start happening at about 2:30-3pm every day for some reason.
Weed or not.

I tried to go through it yesterday with no pill. It still acted up very strongly.
I ended up taking a pill at about 4:16 yesterday and by 4:45 I was back to normal again.

It looks like Anxiety medication does work to help it.

Damn! Wtf kind of anxiety did I give myself?!
Happens daily on que about 2:30-3:00pm feel all fucked up and dying and loss of balance/balance shifting, ears ringing and shortness of breath and feels like I'm gonna be gone any minute. That's an extremely severe case of anxiety! It was obviously drug induced too. Never had this from weed or normally before doing too many drugs. I definitely triggered some adverse reaction pattern in my brain/body that fires daily. So weird.

I think I'm going in today to see about my Kidneys if I feel good when the hospital opens.
I'm obviously still having some sort of severe adverse reactions.
If anything,
I'd like to pick up more of this anti-anxiety medication because it seems to work and I only have two left. I'd hate to run out and have to suffer through the weekend feeling like I'm dying.

What a fine predicament I've gotten myself into this time.
I guess I'll try and see the good side of things. At least I'm still alive and still have my sanity.
Still breathing fresh air and smoking kind skunk.
 
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What kind of pills have you got? If they are benzos then watch out for more anxiety when coming off them - and try not to take too many. Doctors prescribe filth. Maybe get a bottle of wine, or something? (To have instead, that is - not encouraging you to get your benzo-alcohol-funk on!)
 
eye_wide_open said:
I don't know how panic attacks cause chest pains. Never heard that one. It's not just panic attacks.
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are you for real? of course they cause chest pains and a feeling of dying is a common symptom. they're absolutely horrid.

my friend was convinced he had heart problems after abusing cocaine and amphetamine and they said he had anxiety. he has learned to live with it although he has a huge on off on off BZD dependency. stims cause anxiety and this can become a part of your normal cognitive framework.

what makes it hard for you to accept the anxiety is that you also were really ill at the same time. now you associate these feelings with being seriously ill (understandably) hence your fear of dying all the time.

also weed causes panic attacks and anxiety, especially when you have something real and serious to worry about. try cutting down on your cannabis and see if your feelings of doom decrease.

i'm pro cannabis but come on, benzo's because you're anxious while smoking weed daily? join the fucking dots together...
 
yeah the panic attacks might be caused by your binge, but imo the weed certainly doesn't help to make them go away. i'm in a similar situation right now, after a (way too strong) mushroom trip some months ago (my anxiety isn't as bad as yours though). if i smoke weed, it is very possible for me to get anxious, and i experienced several minor panic attacks over the last months, most of them while being stoned. that's why i try to abstain from it right now (had a weed binge the last two weeks though, and guess what, at the end of the binge, i would wake up one hour after going to sleep, with strong derealisation and anxiety, forcing myself to relax with breathing techiques because i feel i'll go insane if i cannot get it under control).

stop the smoking for now, it isn't worth it.
 
Mu-ham-mad said:
What kind of pills have you got? If they are benzos then watch out for more anxiety when coming off them - and try not to take too many. Doctors prescribe filth. Maybe get a bottle of wine, or something? (To have instead, that is - not encouraging you to get your benzo-alcohol-funk on!)
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theres absolutely no reason to advocate "self medication" with alcohol (yuk) against anxiety if there are benzos around. thats what benzos are for, especially when prescripted in such a case. the anxiety is probably temporily due to his binging and a benzo would perfectly fit in this case where alcohol is a dirty, neurotoxic drug, which is ridiculous to take daily for the same effect (if it even helps at all). also i would maybe let weed go for a while, since this can very well trigger anxiety, especially if latently present. even if it doesnt seem to be related, it could make things worse, getting triggered over and over instead of letting it rest. thats why the anxiety med could be beneficial to "let it heal" as well. if it continues to be a persistant problem, i would visit a neurologist.
 
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alcohol (yuk)..... i would visit a neurologist.
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Rock-on! I'd drink a bottle of chardonnay with my lunch; and avoid benzos and neurologists like the plague -- but each to their own. I reckon someone who's smoked for 15 years probably doesn't need to be told to stop smoking weed; but hey-
 
I am so sorry to hear this, crossing my fingers for you. I can tell you that myself have been doing pretty much same combinations and I feel you - which is not a good thing as you kind of confirm my own personal observations. Myself have been using the a-pvp powder which I can only say is something to be careful with as lack of sleep is a killer in the long run. There are some herbs that are very good for your kidneys, I believe your doctors will ensure you get the right meds for optimal treatment.

Relax, eat well and healthy and take care man! Best wishes!
 
pofacedhoe said:
are you for real? of course they cause chest pains and a feeling of dying is a common symptom. they're absolutely horrid.

my friend was convinced he had heart problems after abusing cocaine and amphetamine and they said he had anxiety. he has learned to live with it although he has a huge on off on off BZD dependency. stims cause anxiety and this can become a part of your normal cognitive framework.

what makes it hard for you to accept the anxiety is that you also were really ill at the same time. now you associate these feelings with being seriously ill (understandably) hence your fear of dying all the time.

also weed causes panic attacks and anxiety, especially when you have something real and serious to worry about. try cutting down on your cannabis and see if your feelings of doom decrease.

i'm pro cannabis but come on, benzo's because you're anxious while smoking weed daily? join the fucking dots together...
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Jump off your high horse.

I didn't eat any pills for anxiety yesterday and smoked weed all day and felt fine.

Just because I don't know everything about any given particular medical condition doesn't mean I need a lecture. Thanks. I'm not a college educated doctor and nobody I know has had this condition before.

It's possible my condition could have different circumstances than others. I was using new unknown drugs, FWIW.

My fits seem to be going away finally but I haven't been back in to test the kidneys again or see the specialist yet. I was feeling better a bit yesterday but the walk-in line for the specialist was so long I walked out. I'll wait for my appointment date since I seem to VERY VERY SLOWLY be improving. Not sure about the internals..

Just happy no major "death attacks" yesterday.
It seems I might heal up some.

PS, the anxiety attacks were happening before I got my medication.
Join them dots together. The weed isn't the cause of the anxiety.
 
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Damn it's back again today with a vengeance.
Just had to take one of my last two pills. I guess I'll try the walk in again on Monday. 8)
 
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