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EADD Heroin thread v.XXV -- a quarter centuary of threads if not yet a full decade since the 'drought'...

Just found this excellent video on YouTube that explains the process of adding citric to #3 heroin.

I wish I'd had access to resources like this back in the day.



I rarely inject, but I make solution the same way for nasal use. She WAY over-acidified & you don’t need heat - just converts more to morphine, & dissolves more of the cuts/plant matter. I’ve NEVER seen #3 that makes a translucent solution with no obvious cuts, not even with loads of HCl & heat. I use the barest amount of acid to dissolve most of the h (solution shouldn’t smell acidic, & you can see when it stops reacting), let it sit for at least 15 minutes in a V shaped shot glass, then remove the translucent solution from the top. I’ll use more acid + water to get the last bit out then use that rinse (after 1 prior rinse with just water) to make the next batch - assuming it’s the same stuff of course. I don’t make up more than a few days worth at a time because it converts to morphine in solution.

I bet the h % dropped so much in the more acidic sample not just bc of over acidification, but bc it got heated twice. And she was really gentle in heating it - I see most junkies heat it much more usually (& often necessary to get all the cuts to dissolve), too. And they definitely over acidify.
 
I just find that H isn't so great at stopping pain until you are monged out.

In truth, methadone is likely the best option for both... but in the UK at least, their have been SO MANY shortages. You would assume that the doctor would simply script juice but NO.... pills are for pain, juice is ONLY licenced for treatent of opioid dependence.

Most of the more specific drugs for specific pain or dependence issues have ended up being banned. Palfium for breakthrough pain, gone. Bezitramide for opioid dependence, gone. The list goes on. Worst of all, bezitramide can be modified to last for 24 hours... but methadone is cheap. Already 1 friend died due to it, another had a heart attack! It's ONLY because the medical profession has limited people to AWFUL options.
Yes, I find methadone is quite good for pain. Not as good as h for me, but almost. I’d certainly use methadone over the h available now, but unfortunately I get unpleasant thigh aches if I use it continuously after a few days. And that’s on only 15-40mg in a 24hr period.

Also fully agree they‘ve gotten rid of or stopped prescribing the decent pain meds without nasty side effects, & now it’s mostly crap like tapentadol, tramadol etc.
 
Don't know much about the Dark Web but surely no-one would buy with these terms. Even if they gave a tester who would risk it.
I’d buy if the test was good, but not buying 10g first time! The times I’ve done that I’ve gotten total shit, not even real h. Some nasty opioid. I think he must be a scammer.
 
there are still opium poppy cultivations growing in some parts of afghanistan. i hav read brilliant article by telegrah UK
hav a read there https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/05/13/afghanistan-opium-iran-border-taliban-drugs/

by the way, if any1 cant read this, do register with new email address and u are good to go!

i understand there are FEW dickheads in UK trying to copy america by trying to get rid of well established heroin market and routes in uk by brining in nitazenes into market and forced heroin addicts in uk to accept and hopefuly they fall in love with nitazenes BUT people stil hated them and wasnt too happy about this cos the person who still pushing nitazenes out on street cant or wont take no for an answer from addicts., who kept telling nitazenes dealers to FUCK OFF! and stop pushing and still ignoring addicts and they cut heroin with so much nitazenes. GOD i just HATED greedy dealers who didnt care for human welfare! i was told by few people that there are far too many peope in uk despised nitazenes so much and also the reason why the quality of heroin and cocaine drop considerably was that the UK govt slapped hike vats on import/exports business and custom charge as well? which is Why the traffickers and dealers tryin to out-strecthing supply to overcome those problem??
 
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Hi, can anyone advise on what Nitazenes are likely to look / taste like on foil ?, been smoking for 20+ yrs and have always felt fairly safe (no IV use) but saw a programme where two guys OD’d and died smoking gear with Nitazenes in. Would be helpful to know what to look out for , thanks.
 
Hi, can anyone advise on what Nitazenes are likely to look / taste like on foil ?, been smoking for 20+ yrs and have always felt fairly safe (no IV use) but saw a programme where two guys OD’d and died smoking gear with Nitazenes in. Would be helpful to know what to look out for , thanks.
well i know a guy who told me gave me this info, because it did happened to him TWICE. he said he bought heroin on the street to be used for smoking so he threw some on foil and heat it for h to melt complete, and noticed the beetle was in colour ORANGE liquid, no black tint/ beetle, just complete orange beetle and he thught ah fuck it id smoke fast since this must be very weak heroin but what he didnt know was there ar nitazenes in it and he smoked all of it and felt nothing, but 5mins later, he collasped and was brought to hospital by 1 of his friend who drove him to the hospital so he was very lucky he is alive! he said the high is not the same as fent or heroin. i asked him, would he take it again? he said most definitely not..
 
well i know a guy who told me gave me this info, because it did happened to him TWICE. he said he bought heroin on the street to be used for smoking so he threw some on foil and heat it for h to melt complete, and noticed the beetle was in colour ORANGE liquid, no black tint/ beetle, just complete orange beetle and he thught ah fuck it id smoke fast since this must be very weak heroin but what he didnt know was there ar nitazenes in it and he smoked all of it and felt nothing, but 5mins later, he collasped and was brought to hospital by 1 of his friend who drove him to the hospital so he was very lucky he is alive! he said the high is not the same as fent or heroin. i asked him, would he take it again? he said most definitely not..
This could be an extremely useful tip if all nitrazenes turn into an orange beetle.

Has anyone else heard of or noticed any other similar sorts of things to look out for?
 
Hi, can anyone advise on what Nitazenes are likely to look / taste like on foil ?, been smoking for 20+ yrs and have always felt fairly safe (no IV use) but saw a programme where two guys OD’d and died smoking gear with Nitazenes in. Would be helpful to know what to look out for , thanks.

I spent an hour writing a proper TLDR in response to this but feel like a tit sharing it now. I have it saved on the off chance anyone notices.....
 
Ended up with something very odd Tuesday.

My usual man had new stock in & the moment I opened it up the gear was a odd colour but it was "bricky" like it had been pressed in one of those 5 ton press machines.

I tossed it on the foil & the first line ran totally clean, the last stuff he had in ran dark but it was VERY potent, I really liked it as it was very strong Heroin despite running a bit nasty, I think whoever made it must have known how good it was so they stamped on it.

This new stuff tastes like nothing I have ever known before, the first sign something wasn't quite right was it made me gag right away & all the hairs stood up on my arms, you know the feeling when you are sick & you get the first line down your neck it was like that but very strong, how I didn't vomit is beyond me.

The next thing I felt was a weird MXE / 4-Meo-PCP kinda come up in my head, you know when the MXE starts to hit it at the start of the Hole it was like that, it kept me up all night but NOT like that "Speed-esque" feeling you sometimes get off Heroin it was something else & I wasn't impressed with it one bit. I can hardly remember what happened the whole day & night, I have 99% amnesia after it kicked in.

My throat feels like I have smoked old socks mixed in with Camel Fur, I can honestly say I WON'T be giving "the Man" a single penny for his latest batch of fuck knows what.

He will have a VERY BIG issue trying to shift this latest batch as it's......well fuck knows what it is & you gotta be insane to think it is nice in the effect to say the least.
 
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