they have life threatening withdrawals worse than heroin?
I would really like to try baclofen but the stories of gaba withdrawals sound terrifying and feels like such a heavy burden worrying if it would ever happen to you.
Kratom was the first physically addictive drug I took with any regularity having been a stimmer in my youth and kratom had me worried enough when I first started but I always knew from the stories that there was quite a low ceiling to how bad the withdrawal get however with gaba drugs there is no limit is there.
How are you not constantly in fear of losing control?
I have what a therapist has called extreme generalised anxiety disorder so I always fear the worst scenarios even though I have never been one to abuse substances and take very tiny doses really compared to most.
But baclofen sounded like something which could have great therapeutic potential so I wanted to experiment with it but the fear of withdrawal stops me. I certainly only want to take it now and then but it is that huge monstrous withdrawal capability that scares me. But at the same time it sounds like I could be missing out on a great tool.
I see that alot of you do not seem to worry about phenibut and can keep it under control so what is your mental rational. In my mind currently it feels like using gaba drugs would be akin to leaving loaded handguns around the house. (I am from europe btw so that is not the norm unlike you yanks )
Isn't it like that with phenibut/baclofen where one false move, just getting a little too comfortable with the substance and you are in deep shit and the world is cracking under your feet or is there some leeway/ways to check yourself without things spiraling out of control.
I would really like to try baclofen but the stories of gaba withdrawals sound terrifying and feels like such a heavy burden worrying if it would ever happen to you.
Kratom was the first physically addictive drug I took with any regularity having been a stimmer in my youth and kratom had me worried enough when I first started but I always knew from the stories that there was quite a low ceiling to how bad the withdrawal get however with gaba drugs there is no limit is there.
How are you not constantly in fear of losing control?
I have what a therapist has called extreme generalised anxiety disorder so I always fear the worst scenarios even though I have never been one to abuse substances and take very tiny doses really compared to most.
But baclofen sounded like something which could have great therapeutic potential so I wanted to experiment with it but the fear of withdrawal stops me. I certainly only want to take it now and then but it is that huge monstrous withdrawal capability that scares me. But at the same time it sounds like I could be missing out on a great tool.
I see that alot of you do not seem to worry about phenibut and can keep it under control so what is your mental rational. In my mind currently it feels like using gaba drugs would be akin to leaving loaded handguns around the house. (I am from europe btw so that is not the norm unlike you yanks )
Isn't it like that with phenibut/baclofen where one false move, just getting a little too comfortable with the substance and you are in deep shit and the world is cracking under your feet or is there some leeway/ways to check yourself without things spiraling out of control.