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Stimulants Different Amphetamines

and I view comedowns like cancer; something to be avoided wherever possible. The only difference is; one is literally dying alive, and the other is managable with chemotherapy.

I made a comment that comedowns are worse than cancer. I've lost people to cancer; I can't believe I said that.

What I can't believe more; is the fact I still wholeheartedly stand by my statement. I would rather get cancer than have to ever come down again. It'd be the best 3-12 months of my life.
 
Thats a good question? I wonder how the high would compare Desoxyn vs street shards. Maybe impurities would effect high as PQ suggests.

What drug ranks higher in terms of likability and intrinsic acceptability: Adderall or dexedrine. Sometimes different brands of the same drug seem to have peculiarities in efficacy- a pharmacist I know was involved in a study investigating the phenomena for reasons that were unclear (molecular footprints, differences in the synthetic process?) Its not fully understood. I've experienced this personally with different methadone formulations even though differences in subjective effects at equivalent doses is counterintuitive.

In the late 80s/early 90s I got ahold of dexedrine which my friend was being prescribed to his brother. Found the high euphoric and smoother than the penut butter/ purple crank going around at the time. Crank seemed to have more of an enhanced tactile sensation effect than the dexedrine. Euphoria wise the best high I got was from a pharm formulation that by then was almost 15 years old called appetrol. Came in capsules and the powder inside looked like coffee creamer. Was I think 5 mg of dexedrine with a dose of meprobamate. That was very smooth and euphoric but I think the meprobamate was potentiating the euphoria. I think there is some magic to the combo of barbs/amph that synergizes euphoria above and beyond smoothing out side effects. Maybe miltown did this based on a similar MOA to barbs. At any rate 4 pills would make me feel fanfuckintastic. I knew a girl that used to get black beauties in mid 80s that used to say they were better than crank.

The old timer from the first post used to say obetrol and preludin were the best stims. He used to like to take the preludin with placidyl. He had stories ( he grew up in the town of Oceanside, CA) of going down to mexico and comming back with Jars of 1000 seconals and 1000 benzedrine in the late 40s when he was in highschool and comming back to the USA, getting jacked up and getting in fights with local marines.8o

I know these are hard questions to answer, like "describe the taste of a pear and compare it to an apple." Someone who does a great job of describing nuances of highs between drugs that are similar in structure are Alexander Shulgin and his friends in PIHKAL and other works. Especially in the "extension and comentary" section after the individual trip reports.

Food for thought: A friend I have thats in recovery that did some "creative cooking" a (long) while ago swears that adjusting the pH in one of the steps changes the subjective effects with one end of the spectrum being more stimulating and another more sex enhancing or something like this. Anyway may seem counterintuitive but I don't like to reject anecdotal info out of hand. And this underscores that there is a huge number of factors and variables that contribute to a drug's high.

People with real ADHD do not get any "highs", "awaking effects", etc from Desoxyn or any other stimulants.
 
You know your life is boring when you've got an incredible buzz going, but you're considering having ALL your benzo's so you can go to sleep, in an effort to avoid the boredom of being trapped inside a house having to be next to silent for the next 10 hours.
 
You know your life is boring when you've got an incredible buzz going, but you're considering having ALL your benzo's so you can go to sleep, in an effort to avoid the boredom of being trapped inside a house having to be next to silent for the next 10 hours.

Yep. Could be worse: I've got a job interview in 12 hours. I haven't slept since Friday night.
 
at least you have a job interview you could focus your energies on, picking out costumes or styling your hair for 4 hours or something.

all I have is chain-smoking rollies and perfecting how to move silently.
 
You're high as shit on amphetamines and have a world of information (and pornography. . .and chatting partners) at your fingertips. You should be able to figure out something to do...

ebola
 
People with real ADHD do not get any "highs", "awaking effects", etc from Desoxyn or any other stimulants.

false. studies have shown that upwards of 70% of people who abuse methamphetamines have ADD/ADHD.
see one study here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16186089

although, you'd be correct somewhat in your statement if you were saying that properly dosed (using the stimulant medicine only as prescribed) ADD/ADHD patients shouldn't have many overwhelming side effects (positive or negative, ie: extreme weight loss, loss of sleep, overly rapid heart rate, etc) after a bit of time from their body adjusting properly and positively to the drug.

now, you may be correct in your statement about some stimulants (I don't really think so, but I am not positive, so I can't say) but I do know for a fact that people with "real" (as opposed to fake?) ADD/ADHD can absolutely get "high" and experience "awakening effects" from methamphetamine.
 
As beautiful and intricate as the Sistine Chapel, as simple as a haiku, with a certain wabi sabi that really makes these 20 words the most powerful thing I've read since the last time I slept. Whenever that was...

the last 3 words seriously made me tear up just a bit. The closest thing I can imagine to this feeling, is how the parents of a severely disabled child feel when the child miraculously learns how to look after itself and moves out of home (at 41). unspeakable beauty, marred with mortality; that feeling of loss + that one day, everyone you know will be dead. Knowing that every flower withers and dies, gorgeous lovers wither and die. I, am withering and dying...

And; most unsettling and dysphoric of all: the feeling I can only describe as "omega", in the most literal sense; "the end (of the [greek] alphabet)" (the alphabet representing what's good in life. the number of letters is not important, it varies every time. But with each progressive letter, another time period equal to the half life of my current high.)

Quite literally, this is the final stage of my amphetamine comedown. after this it's just sleep deprivation and psychosis keeping me going.
I can tell sleep is imminent. Definately within the next 24 hours.

This reminds me of something Dale Pendell would write. I can't sleep now and I'm three days after a comedown myself; just become dependent on landing gear to sleep after my last ridiculous dance with d-(m)eth. Leave it to Bluelight to quickly find someone who knows just what I know at just the same time. Ah damn. hit the temazepam.
 
I have a theory that availabilty and word of mouth as well as other contextual factors have a huge effect on drug acceptability and desirability, so in other words when the company that manufactures Adderall convince physicians that it is a miracle cure for ADD because anoretics as an indication have gone out of fashion and its being prescribed to everyone and their grandmothers then the word on the street is that the drug pretty lame, to throw away or give away to friends who like that kind of high. By the same token when the magazines are targetting meth as one of the horses of the apocalypse, then dirty, cut, unpharmaceutical street meth becomes a drug capable of causing euphoria and joy of mythical proportions in people minds
QFT!

I can't really comment on amphetamine brands, since us Europeans usually get dirty shit synthed in Poland which has been hastily converted to sulphate/phosphate salt with lots of left over freebase. Purity around 30% in the kg's which goes down to ~5% on street level, cut with crushed caffeine pills and lactose and whatever solvent is at hand cause people get off on smelly shit that burns their nose... le sigh.
I used to just try to get some that's around 30% (dirt cheap here, like 1.50€ per g lol), extract, convert to phosphate salt in acetone, then wash wash wash until the cress smell is barely perceptible.

Now this poses quite an advantage over pills imho which are usually designed in ways that don't allow anything other than oral administration. So if you want maximum stimulation, you might want to try to score some pure speed and bang it or take it rectally for a less risky route.

You might also be looking in the wrong place, since amphetamine is a very "functional" stimulant that usually provides little euphoria in those without affective disorders. Meth and coke would be a better option for the occasional fun time I'd say.
 
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