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Deaths from psychedelic substances

d-Dexter-25

d-Dexter-25

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I have read about multiple deaths from certain chemicals first one being deaths directly from toxicity of 2CT7 however how many deaths have been the result of these drugs including LSD and any psychedelic. 5MeO-DiPT also may have caused a few deaths with pondman doing life, also his AMT killed people as well!!!

Now do I believe the media is spreading the real information, not entirely but I don't know for sure either way. However I have not come accross any information compiled in one place that has which chemicals may have caused any deaths and perhaps some prove that it was the direct result of the drug and not things like accidental and suicide.

This may be bad in one way that it will show that psychedelics can produce death even though both LSD and Psilocybin have been shown to be very non toxic in almost all doses that one could intentionaly or even accidently ingest. Then why something like 5MeO-DiPT cause such death in some people.

Also interesting is why some people die from an average dose for that chemical maybe in combination with something else but still others could take more of each and be fine. Could the person who dies be just sensitive to toxic effects.

Basically I want to just compile deaths and causes from psychedelic drugs!!! I hope this information will make people more cautious with these chemicals and maybe save some lives or at least prevent some really bad trips!!!
 
I know at least bromo-dragonfly, 2c-t-2 and 4-mta have killed as well...

I'll dig you up some articles when I have more time tommorrow. Good thread idea, if enough people contribute, maybe we ca get it stickied...
 
But the fact that something has been implicated in a death doesn't mean it's automatically dangerous. Leah Betts died because she drank too much water. For most of us drinking water isn't dangerous.

There are enough doorknobs in the world that if all drugs vanished tomorrow they would still manage to kill themselves by eating a satsuma, forgetting to peel it first and then choking to death on it.

I think a better question might be "Have psychedelics ever killed an intelligent person"? :)
 
The OP is right about there being no one place where all the 'Research Chemical' related fatalities have been gathered. The key safety steps which should be taken to prevent such events could also be listed on such a page. They would probably include some stuff that could be easily achieved by the majority of casual users, such as using scales of sufficient calibre etc, but also things which are probably going to be ignored (Such as having a chemical analysis done on a sample, or calibrating your scales.) These are just examples. Most of the deaths seem to be due to ignorance, or carelessness. For most people, I would suggest, taking as many steps as reasonable is the best way to be safe. People are always going to be taking some risks.
A page where all this is spelled out would surely be a good idea.
 
Pure psilocybin killed the guy who kicked off the brotherhood of eternal love - by overdose.
 
^^

Wasn't that "synthetic" psilocybin tho? And no-one knew what was actually in it? Leary said it had been laced with something to get rid of the guy.
 
^ It was synthesised psilocybin from sandoz apparently. Does it matter if it's a natural extract or not ?

I believe from the reading I did that it was a simple overdose.

I've had a fit before from taking too many mushrooms, this guy took an immense amount apparently, so I don't see a contradiction.

Guy died from taking about a third of a gram of LSD as well. That is a lot of LSD, which I could have put to better use
 
WTF? LSD causing a death? since when?

I had heard about the Eternal Love guy, but I'm also not sure I believe that...
 
I personally know one person who had a seizure on LSD alone, and two others who've had seizures on psilocybin alone.

Never say never...
 
Ok i'll start gathering some information cause this information needs to be out there and as suggested this being a sticky would be a good idea and will maybe make people think twice about eyeballing and such other destructive behaviors...

I'll start with the most infamous I guess...

2CT7 Deaths...

1st death insufflated - http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2ct7/2ct7_death1.shtml

2nd death insufflated - http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2ct7/2ct7_death2.shtml

3rd death oral with MDMA - http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2ct7/2ct7_death3.shtml


5MeO-DiPT Deaths... Only one known death but other toxic effects noted!!!

1st death known 100mg rectal - http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/5meo_dipt/5meo_dipt_media1.shtml


Possible AMT Deaths... Two deaths may have been caused by AMT!!!

Both deaths with little information - http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/amt/amt_death1.shtml

Possible 2CT21 Death... Quadriplegic man and IAP may have been involved!!!

May have been caused by combining IAP not enough infomation provided - http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2ct21/2ct21_article1.shtml

Possible LSD Deaths... Two deaths with little information available!!!

Possible huge dose Deaths - http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.php?ID=220

Serious problems and deaths from Bromo-Dragonfly... This is a serious dangerous substance if misused!!!

Death and Hospitalization - http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/bromo_dragonfly/bromo_dragonfly_death3.shtml

Second Death and Hospitalization - http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/bromo_dragonfly/bromo_dragonfly_death1.shtml

Third Death - http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/bromo_dragonfly/bromo_dragonfly_death2.shtml



Ok so all thse are from Erowid so its not like I did much research but right now I have'nt the time so hopefully some others will do a better job of researching and coming up with some answers. Also we should put up the LD-50 of as many chemicals as we can!!!
 
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^ It was synthesised psilocybin from sandoz apparently. Does it matter if it's a natural extract or not ?

I believe from the reading I did that it was a simple overdose.
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You can't rule out the massive overdose of synthetic psilocybin I suppose, but there's a few rumours about it, Leary says it was "strychnine" (if you can believe that) and in the book "Acid Dreams" it says it was an overdose of PCP. There's the bit where he comes after "20 minutes" and says "Don't take it, it's a total overdose" - after 20 minutes you're barely feeling the first alerts on psilocybin. I suppose baring in mind they were all bikers on drugs "20 minutes" could have actually been "60 minutes" :D
 
well, not only was it 320mg of LSD, but it was by IV!!!

lol, my friend washed out an "empty" vial of LSD with ketamine and IM'ed it. he was a big acid head before this, and said it freaked him the fuck out. said it was his worst trip ever and he never wants to do it again.

apparently he ran into the desert taking off his clothes. heh.
 
Ismene said:
You can't rule out the massive overdose of synthetic psilocybin I suppose, but there's a few rumours about it, Leary says it was "strychnine" (if you can believe that) and in the book "Acid Dreams" it says it was an overdose of PCP. There's the bit where he comes after "20 minutes" and says "Don't take it, it's a total overdose" - after 20 minutes you're barely feeling the first alerts on psilocybin. I suppose baring in mind they were all bikers on drugs "20 minutes" could have actually been "60 minutes" :D
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No way. I've had total rippling effects after a mere 5 minutes after eating like 40-45 grams fresh (containing more psilocybin as opposed to psilocin) blended into multi-juice (which is acidic). These factors improve absorption rate I think, not that long after that I was catapulted into a very solid ++++
I wouldnt call that a -real- overdose by any means but it's very likely that pure psilocybin presented such a dramatic effect after 20 minutes that leads him to respond in that way.
 
Lets keep this going come on we should compile this for the safety of everyone. Now its true that just because nobody has died from a certain chemical does'nt mean its not lethal in certain dosage ranges. However what this will due is show people that if you take too much and be reckless then these chemicals can kill in certain people!!!
 
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