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Dail Mail - Ecstasy makes a comeback: The rave drug of the 1990s is back but this...

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Alexandra-Palace-party.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Stupid people. Have never touched a drug in my life. Why risk everything for a quick 'high'?

- lena, wilts, 27/11/2011 22:15
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Why is it I cannot find sympathy for those who take 'Social' drugs!

- BrianBW, Swansea, 27/11/2011 21:27
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Hey kids how many times do we have to tell you, just say no to drugs!

- It's tough being right all the time., Scaryville UK, 27/11/2011 19:55
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I now remember why i avoid reading comments, but again i can't blame people for been ignorant under this government.
 
You'd think the people at the top of the chain wouldn't want people dying from their stuff. It seems that would do the opposite of promote business for their "employees."

Then again, a lot of people don't really care and will keep going with the drug anyway, as sad as that is.

All of these drug related problems could be fixed with legalization. In this case, people would've been getting MDMA without adulterants-or hell, any other chemical. They would be educated about their stim of choice as well and wouldn't feel bad about going to health authorities if they became ill.
 
UK - Clubbers should be able to test their ecstasy (David Nutt)

Guardian

David Nutt
guardian.co.uk, Monday 28 November 2011 16.30 GMT

With reader comments
Media reports of two deaths at the weekend in the same party venue have once again been accompanied by police suggestions that the drug responsible is ecstasy that may be from a "contaminated" batch. Speculation as to the cause of these tragic deaths is unhelpful, and recent experience with mephedrone has shown such preliminary comments are often quite wrong, we will know the truth only when toxicology results are reported.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentis...s-test-ecstasy-nightclub-deaths?newsfeed=true
 
See what we do is legalize and regulate and stop beating around the bush.

But yea they should be able to test their ecstasy pills its unfortunate that people have to die from a completely safe chemical ( reason being because its illegal and people can sell and call their product whatever the fuck they want).
 
The problem with david nutt is that even though he speaks sense. The government do little more than laugh at his 'crazy' ideas and sack him for speaking the truth.
 
On the plus side, he has become something of a celebrity on the process, someone who can get common sense views into news stories.
 
UK - We need an antidote to the agony of Ecstasy

Telegraph

By Andrew M Brown
7:22PM GMT 28 Nov 2011

In the past few days, two families have received the news that every parent dreads – a child has died. Both the young men concerned had attended parties where tens of thousands of young people danced all night to pounding electronic music. Twenty other people were in hospital. The suspicion, not unnaturally, is that drugs were involved. Scotland Yard singled out MDMA for mention – methylenedioxymethamphetamine, which is the active ingredient (sometimes) in Ecstasy tablets.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/8920791/We-need-an-antidote-to-the-agony-of-Ecstasy.html
 
Nice article. Good to see quite a few newspapers seem to be writing a lot more about drugs recently.
 
thats pretty horrible, it must be so scary to take bad mdma. hope it never happens to me...
but honestly what the fuck drives someone to even sell something like that....? you have to be right fucked in the head.
 
^^^
It's the scariest possibly life ending experience ever. I have talked to some dealers that say they accidentally bought a lot of bad pills and the only way to get their money back is to slang those pills anyway. Some dealers also are too small time and stupid to make sure that their product is good. It's an unorganized cluster fuck out there and is only getting worse.
 
UK - Deadly ecstasy could come from China (FRANK)

The Sun

By CHRIS HUDSON, of drug information charity FRANK

29 Nov 2011

THE deaths of two clubbers at the weekend sparked fears the drug ecstasy is back in fashion – and even more deadly. The men died after attending a huge north London dance event and a third is in hospital. It's feared they took pills from an unusually potent batch, possibly made in China. In July two men died in Ayrshire, west Scotland, after taking super-strong versions of the drug. Here, CHRIS HUDSON from drugs charity Frank explains the dangers.
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In bad cases ecstasy causes angina, severely reducing the heart's ability to get oxygen and pump it around the body. In severe cases it kills.
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/3966093/Deadly-ecstasy-could-come-from-China.html
 
I wonder how many people were at this event? if it truly is large, then there is a good bet that someone would have died during the process of the event anyway, drugs or not. A good analogy from a friend in the military. You occupy a country and have 50,000 troops and 100 die of battle injuries, and 75 die of other incidences. If noone dies in combat, there are still going to be people dying! People fucking die..all the fucking time! there is a much, much greater chance that the "author"of this piece will die of heart disease, or cancer, or a car wreck than someone taking extra strong extacy. People are just stupid i guess. I consider myself educated, but i would not not call myself stupid so that includes me too...
 
Ffs

Possibly also a strong variant of shit from Uranus , if not their maybe a rogue batch from mars.

Frank and the press need to stop speculating.
 
Even pipes didnt do this , either some potent rc that's been badly cut or a pma/ppma fuckup.
 
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Frank and the press need to stop speculating.
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I don't thing Frank is speculating. They know that they could test their "super-strong" dose theory by just asking one of the surviver how many pills they took. They also probably know that MDMA does not usually have such catastrophic results even at high doses.

It's a shame. When someone dies one thing the bereaved family want is to find out the "truth". What actually caused the death, who was responsible and how it could have been prevented. They are not getting the truth. They are getting a fabricated account which appears to be speculation constructed for the purpose of furthering some political agenda. Meanwhile the culprit chemical remains at large and ready to strike again, while everyone is duped into pointing the finger at MDMA.
 
The Periscope Post

Dodgy Ecstasy: Is the UK’s current drugs policy endangering young people’s lives?

With reader comments

In the wake of deaths and hospitalisations linked to frighteningly strong dance drug Ecstasy pills, has the time come for a serious re-think on UK drugs policy?

The reportedly drug-related deaths of two men in their early 20s at all-night dance raves in north London this weekend has sparked fears that “rogue ecstasy” is doing the rounds in London’s clubland and has re-opened the drugs policy debate. Both deaths have been linked to methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA), the active ingredient in Ecstasy tablets. Increasingly vocal drugs specialists are questioning the government’s current drugs policy, and are calling for a system more akin to the Dutch model, which sees users able to take their drugs to hospital labs for safety testing.
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Politicians need to stop avoiding the issue. Like Nutt, Brown called for the UK to introduce a DIMS-like system: “This seems a civilised idea, and yet we have nothing like it in Britain. Measures such as this attract instant condemnation because they appear to condone drug use. But wouldn’t you rather your children had access to a testing service? Better that than frazzling their brains with an unknown mixture of ghastly chemicals.” Brown called for politicians to stop worrying so much about “appearing ‘soft’ and losing votes” and to focus instead on saving children from “needless harm.”
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http://www.periscopepost.com/2011/1...drugs-policy-endangering-young-peoples-lives/
 
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