I was on this forum a while ago talking about all these symptoms. People kept telling me and telling (especially the mods -- the mods of a Harm Reduction forum. Oh, the irony) that it must be physical manifestations of a mental illness. I've never had paranoia, anxiety, depression etc, so that seemed ridiculous to me (two of my friends suffer from things like panic attacks, so I know it is more than possible for physical symptoms to arise due to a mental problem -- but this was not me). I searched and searched and searched for a cure to my problem, which included heavy vomiting in the morning (until I smoked weed and had a shower), unable to eat at all until smoking weed, severe dehydration (hospitalized), severe decrease in appetite (4 meals a day down to 2, even when smoking), and severe nausea and stomach pains.
This is a real syndrome, and it is not at all concentrated in Australia, nor is it caused by Carbon. Chainer, have you ever been to an industrial city? I'm not talking about a city in North America, but Shanghai, or Rio de Janero? If you go, check to see if anyone is vomiting. There is so much carbon and smog in those cities that you can't visibly distinguish the features of the sun -- the sky is fucking covered in yellow CARBON. People DO get environmental effects from the smog and carbon -- if you live there, you'll notice you'll cough up black shit, and you're mucus will have black specks when blowing your nose. But vomiting? Where did you get this idea from? Your medical degree? Personal experience? It seems based off your posts you have neither, so I believe you should stop speculating on something you, and everyone else (myself included), know so little about, without the required expertise (ie, being a doctor).
Your two cigarette analogies are a little absurd, too. Tons of people smoke more than 15 grams of tobacco a day, and do not vomit. In addition, people don't random just start going from 0 cigarettes to 15, likewise, no one goes from smoking no weed to a half-ounce a day. It's called tolerance. As a mod on a Harm Reduction forum, in the Cannabis section, I feel like you should know this. If you take any amount of any drug that you're body isn't accustom to (...tolerance), you will feel the affects. This is not a tolerance issue. If a drink a fifth of Vodka, I'm probably going to get alcohol poisoning. Alcoholic friends of mine drink that in the morning.
I started smoking at age 12, once a month. By age 14, I was smoking every weekend. By 16, it was around three and a half grams a day, smoking poppers/shotties. Around this time my friend got diagnosed with malignant lung cancer. Due to being scared shitless about my health, and my smoking, I switched to a vaporizer and edibles. I created weed lollypops I'd eat during the day, along with brownies, and while at home I'd vaporize. By the time I was 17, I started getting the symptoms mentioned above. For two years I had this, the only cure being marijuana (showers helped with the nausea, but I feel like this is too stressed of a point). I was using around a quarter a day. I'd tell my friends about these symptoms, and they were just as skeptical as I was that it was related to marijuana. After all, they were smoking it, and smoking a lot more than myself (around a half O a day), and didn't get any of the symptoms. After going to the doctors endless times, going through endless tests (checked for tuberculosis, H pylori, stomach ulcers, X Rays, a bronchoscopy etc), I still couldn't find an answer. Eventually, once I heard of CHS, I was in major denial. I didn't drink, and weed was my relaxing drug. I fucking loved, and still do love, weed. I kept using, and sure enough, I kept getting the symptoms. It wasn't until a co-worker of mine, who was also a heavy smoker, got diagnosed with CHS and ceased to smoke -- and felt much better -- that I realized I needed to quit. The symptoms persisted (for me) around 2 weeks after I quit, which kind of fed my denial. However, after those 2 weeks, the difference I felt (and feel) PHYSICALLY, is amazing. No vomitting, no nausea.
I "relapsed" multiple times, and the symptoms returned. I decided I never wanted to feel like that again, so I quit for good.
I don't mean to come off as an asshole, but carbon? You actually think carbon is the cause? That's just ignorance or a lack of intuition/knowledge (especially of the effects of carbon...), and that isn't needed on a harm-reduction forum, especially from someone who is supposed to be moderating discussion here. Going against professional, medical opinions (I understand they're still opinions at this point), from people who are actually qualified to give these opinions, is not harm-reduction in the slightest.
@Docter_EW: I too have lactose intolerance and acid reflux, but I never eat lactose, and my acid reflux went away when I quit weed. I noticed you said marijuana relieved your nausea -- that's the paradox of the entire syndrome. Marijuana relieves the nausea (temporarily), but is also the cause of it (in the long run).
I am almost positive this is just an effect of breathing smoke
I am positive it is not. It's been nearly 300 years since the industrial revolution. There's more than enough evidence on what smoke/carbon does to your body. Vomiting is not one of them (when absent all the other symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning -- vertigo, headaches etc).
I also sweated profusely, but I believe that was due to tobacco or caffeine, rather than cannabis.
And as CVSSufferer says, CVS =/= CHS. My problems didn't arise until I was deep into cannabis. CVS arises in adolescence. I have to add that in all of the studies I've read, cessation of cannabis use has around an 80% success rate in relieving the symptoms.
Is the nausea in any way alleviated or prevented by antihistamines or NSAIDs? Better yet -- both?
No. I've tried both separately and in conjunction.
If you still believe there is a lack of evidence, go to PubMed, a medical journal database. Type in "Cannabis Hyperemesis Syndrome". Read the results, look at the graphs, and look at the credible people they're written by. Of the articles I've read, the age (young) when people started cannabis seems to be a major factor. Obviously these are still opinions, but informed opinions.
Here's some quotes I disagree with --
From Chainer:
The whole thing is anecdotal evidence, no studies on what factor becomes important in this or not..
There are common factors.
Lack of evidence does not mean evidence
There is evidence, anecdotal as it may be.
You gotta be kidding me if you think this isn't media spinning shit out of control.
Oh yeah! I hear about CHS all the time in the media! 8) Illuminiati!!!111
I thought this was BL, a HR forum
Weird, so did I!
conflicting reports on symptoms
Very conflicting. People who have CHS clearly don't share the symptoms of nausea, and vomiting. Surely they don't smoke weed, either. Very conflicting.
I am sure there are better examples that fit more closely in line but that wasn't the point
(In reference to cigarette analogy)
Err... did you have a point at all, or did you just come on here to debate?
From Btt0'RoughJack:
that sounds fucking ridiculous. I would really take a break, and get on some new meds for a while - maybe try ganja in combination with something else.
You mean add more drugs to the mix, and see if that helps? Wait, that's not "fucking" ridiculous.
From RaulDuke45:
Or maybe get higher quality cannabis and so you wont have to smoke as much.
This actually make a lot of sense. Buying better weed, with more THC and cannaboids, must help a syndrome which is reportedly caused by cannaboids. I forgot that America is the only country with good weed, not the shitty Mexican brick kind.
Edit: Toned' er down a little.