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I was on this forum a while ago talking about all these symptoms. People kept telling me and telling (especially the mods -- the mods of a Harm Reduction forum. Oh, the irony) that it must be physical manifestations of a mental illness. I've never had paranoia, anxiety, depression etc, so that seemed ridiculous to me (two of my friends suffer from things like panic attacks, so I know it is more than possible for physical symptoms to arise due to a mental problem -- but this was not me). I searched and searched and searched for a cure to my problem, which included heavy vomiting in the morning (until I smoked weed and had a shower), unable to eat at all until smoking weed, severe dehydration (hospitalized), severe decrease in appetite (4 meals a day down to 2, even when smoking), and severe nausea and stomach pains.

This is a real syndrome, and it is not at all concentrated in Australia, nor is it caused by Carbon. Chainer, have you ever been to an industrial city? I'm not talking about a city in North America, but Shanghai, or Rio de Janero? If you go, check to see if anyone is vomiting. There is so much carbon and smog in those cities that you can't visibly distinguish the features of the sun -- the sky is fucking covered in yellow CARBON. People DO get environmental effects from the smog and carbon -- if you live there, you'll notice you'll cough up black shit, and you're mucus will have black specks when blowing your nose. But vomiting? Where did you get this idea from? Your medical degree? Personal experience? It seems based off your posts you have neither, so I believe you should stop speculating on something you, and everyone else (myself included), know so little about, without the required expertise (ie, being a doctor).

Your two cigarette analogies are a little absurd, too. Tons of people smoke more than 15 grams of tobacco a day, and do not vomit. In addition, people don't random just start going from 0 cigarettes to 15, likewise, no one goes from smoking no weed to a half-ounce a day. It's called tolerance. As a mod on a Harm Reduction forum, in the Cannabis section, I feel like you should know this. If you take any amount of any drug that you're body isn't accustom to (...tolerance), you will feel the affects. This is not a tolerance issue. If a drink a fifth of Vodka, I'm probably going to get alcohol poisoning. Alcoholic friends of mine drink that in the morning.

I started smoking at age 12, once a month. By age 14, I was smoking every weekend. By 16, it was around three and a half grams a day, smoking poppers/shotties. Around this time my friend got diagnosed with malignant lung cancer. Due to being scared shitless about my health, and my smoking, I switched to a vaporizer and edibles. I created weed lollypops I'd eat during the day, along with brownies, and while at home I'd vaporize. By the time I was 17, I started getting the symptoms mentioned above. For two years I had this, the only cure being marijuana (showers helped with the nausea, but I feel like this is too stressed of a point). I was using around a quarter a day. I'd tell my friends about these symptoms, and they were just as skeptical as I was that it was related to marijuana. After all, they were smoking it, and smoking a lot more than myself (around a half O a day), and didn't get any of the symptoms. After going to the doctors endless times, going through endless tests (checked for tuberculosis, H pylori, stomach ulcers, X Rays, a bronchoscopy etc), I still couldn't find an answer. Eventually, once I heard of CHS, I was in major denial. I didn't drink, and weed was my relaxing drug. I fucking loved, and still do love, weed. I kept using, and sure enough, I kept getting the symptoms. It wasn't until a co-worker of mine, who was also a heavy smoker, got diagnosed with CHS and ceased to smoke -- and felt much better -- that I realized I needed to quit. The symptoms persisted (for me) around 2 weeks after I quit, which kind of fed my denial. However, after those 2 weeks, the difference I felt (and feel) PHYSICALLY, is amazing. No vomitting, no nausea.

I "relapsed" multiple times, and the symptoms returned. I decided I never wanted to feel like that again, so I quit for good.

I don't mean to come off as an asshole, but carbon? You actually think carbon is the cause? That's just ignorance or a lack of intuition/knowledge (especially of the effects of carbon...), and that isn't needed on a harm-reduction forum, especially from someone who is supposed to be moderating discussion here. Going against professional, medical opinions (I understand they're still opinions at this point), from people who are actually qualified to give these opinions, is not harm-reduction in the slightest.

@Docter_EW: I too have lactose intolerance and acid reflux, but I never eat lactose, and my acid reflux went away when I quit weed. I noticed you said marijuana relieved your nausea -- that's the paradox of the entire syndrome. Marijuana relieves the nausea (temporarily), but is also the cause of it (in the long run).
I am almost positive this is just an effect of breathing smoke
I am positive it is not. It's been nearly 300 years since the industrial revolution. There's more than enough evidence on what smoke/carbon does to your body. Vomiting is not one of them (when absent all the other symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning -- vertigo, headaches etc).
I also sweated profusely, but I believe that was due to tobacco or caffeine, rather than cannabis.

And as CVSSufferer says, CVS =/= CHS. My problems didn't arise until I was deep into cannabis. CVS arises in adolescence. I have to add that in all of the studies I've read, cessation of cannabis use has around an 80% success rate in relieving the symptoms.

Is the nausea in any way alleviated or prevented by antihistamines or NSAIDs? Better yet -- both?
No. I've tried both separately and in conjunction.

If you still believe there is a lack of evidence, go to PubMed, a medical journal database. Type in "Cannabis Hyperemesis Syndrome". Read the results, look at the graphs, and look at the credible people they're written by. Of the articles I've read, the age (young) when people started cannabis seems to be a major factor. Obviously these are still opinions, but informed opinions.

Here's some quotes I disagree with --

From Chainer:
The whole thing is anecdotal evidence, no studies on what factor becomes important in this or not..
There are common factors.
Lack of evidence does not mean evidence
There is evidence, anecdotal as it may be.
You gotta be kidding me if you think this isn't media spinning shit out of control.
Oh yeah! I hear about CHS all the time in the media! 8) Illuminiati!!!111
I thought this was BL, a HR forum
Weird, so did I!
conflicting reports on symptoms
Very conflicting. People who have CHS clearly don't share the symptoms of nausea, and vomiting. Surely they don't smoke weed, either. Very conflicting.
I am sure there are better examples that fit more closely in line but that wasn't the point
(In reference to cigarette analogy)
Err... did you have a point at all, or did you just come on here to debate?

From Btt0'RoughJack:
that sounds fucking ridiculous. I would really take a break, and get on some new meds for a while - maybe try ganja in combination with something else.
You mean add more drugs to the mix, and see if that helps? Wait, that's not "fucking" ridiculous.

From RaulDuke45:
Or maybe get higher quality cannabis and so you wont have to smoke as much.
This actually make a lot of sense. Buying better weed, with more THC and cannaboids, must help a syndrome which is reportedly caused by cannaboids. I forgot that America is the only country with good weed, not the shitty Mexican brick kind.


Edit: Toned' er down a little.
 
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Evening all :)

I will start replying to the post from K-Dazed. Sorry to read of what you have gone through. Clearly you believe it is cannabis caused your illness but I wont go and debate this shit elsewhere. Why? when clearly the people who claim to suffer from it, you, are posting on here?

Can I just start by saying, the pub med articles you insist are evidence of this illness, It has been explained that these "studies", "abstracts", "journals" are not real studies as we know them. To be fair there not really released for public viewing but the rise of the internet means that we get to see these types of things. A quick explanation is these abstracts are theories some doctors have when looking at the records of patients on file. When I doctor "thinks" he/she has found a new illness they will publish this on PubMed for example.....if another doctor see's a patient with similar symptoms they search PubMed for others like that and then themselves do a journal. This is how new illnesses are born as such. Read them in detail and you will see most of the patients have never been seen by the doctors, theyre just reading notes which can be somewhat misleading at the best of times. The alleged biggest study of cannabis hyperemesis by Mayo Clinic studied 1571 patients, 98 met the biased criteria however follow up was only available in 10 patients. Not really good enough to state an illness yet but....

That being said I am not saying Cannabis Hyperemesis is not real, I am merely saying we are not ignorant fucks, far from it. Would you mind answering a few questions about your own illness? like I said you clearly think it is cannabis caused and you suffer from cannabis hyperemesis, did your vomiting and nausea get worse until you quit cannabis? How long do you vomit for normally, did I read you had heavy vomiting in a morning until you had a shower and some weed, was this every morning? Did you ever have good days or was it every single day?

Please, I am not doubting you. I have posted the above because really we arent ignorant fucks.....well I am not. I have done ALOT of research and I do want to learn more. I will not doubt anything you say......I dont believe cannabis is for everyone. It is important to discuss these things so you certainly wont hear me debating that with you.

Also @ Sorry aswell to read your suffering. Have you tried completely abstaining to see if your symptoms do away? TBH like you say, you dont smoke a huge amount......0.29g a day is very little so I would guess it isnt the actual amount you smoke but if it is cannabis causing your symptoms, then I would say it is more the daily use as such. Hey, I am not a doctor though so please dont take anything I say as gospel! Can I just ask you a couple of questions? You say your vomiting lasts 15-16 hours, is this the longest it happens? Do you have good days?

Thanks again and lets keep it sensible, were all adults :)
 
Sorry, my anger wasn't directed at you, but rather Chainer. As a mod of a harm-reduction forum, I simply don't believe he should be dismissing links between vomiting and cannabis, like he has, and blame it on "media fear-mongering". Other people's suggestions were to smoke more weed, or to get "higher-quality medical" weed, which again, if you're suffering from symptoms like I had, I don't think is a good answer (I'm not sure about other parts in the world, but you can get much higher quality cannabis in Canada from non-medical sources than when you buy "medical grade" marijuana. IMO medical marijuana is a money scam, not the actually benefits marijuana gives, but the way they sell it and the quality of the weed). I also don't rule out genetic or environmental factors can be at play as well (as I said above, I'm also lactose intolerant, and also had acid reflux which ceased after cannabis use, something others have said. I've also travelled extensively, and lived in Australia for 2 years, but as I mentioned earlier, I don't believe the problem is concentrated to a particular geographical area). I stopped posting on the ED and CD forums because I found myself to be in disagreement with a lot of the practices people condone, which I believed to be counter to harm-reduction.

To be honest, I don't even know if cannabis hyperemesis syndrome is real or not. My major point is my symptoms, I believe, are directly related to cannabis use.

I see where I went wrong in my last post, and toned it down, but I still stand by my opinion.
 
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hey there i just wanted to share my experience with you since it is similar somewhat..i am 33 and have smoked weed since i was 12, regularly on and off, i have done LOTS of other drugs but am trying to just use herb now as its effects are pleasant to me and i enjoy them, however, when i DONT have weed(btw i smoke at least 14 grms of very good herb a week) i cant eat ANYTHING, i will lterally go days w/o eating either until i get weed(usually the case) or...well actually there is no or... if i cant get good herb a couple times i got shwazz downtown on the street out of desperation. also i sweat profusely! so bad it soakes through all my layers and it is winter in minnesota so i have lots of layers, all together i feel almost like i am in opiate w/d and it sux...i love pot and it basically helps me stay off of drugs that would have me back down the road of destruction in a heartbeat if istarted them again. anyway so i have seen these symptoms posted b4 as well so there might be something to this...then again i think it is simply just a form of cannabanoid w/d..the cannabis being so potent now maybe its just possible we are "kicking" pot as dumb as that sounds:\.
 
Other people's suggestions were to smoke more weed, or to get "higher-quality medical" weed, which again, if you're suffering from symptoms like I had, I don't think is a good answer

To be honest, I don't even know if cannabis hyperemesis syndrome is real or not. My major point is my symptoms, I believe, are directly related to cannabis use.

Yeah I totally agree mate. If someone thinks their problem is caused by cannabis smoking then the first thing they MUST do is quit. Nothing is worth being ill everyday. Maybe in time they would learn in wasnt cannabis but they owe it to themselves to atleast try and find the cause. Life is far too short!

Thanks for keeping things calm aswell. A thread like this can erupt into pieces in seconds so for the sake of peoples health its nice to see this not happen :)

@ stivsmegg, sorry to read your problems too. During my time researching I have read of a few other people who report the same symptoms as you when they are withdrawing from cannabis. Do the symptoms last long? Or do you normally smoke again? It doesnt sound like the reported symptoms of CHS, in that you are actually withdrawing not chronically using, but like I said, I have read other people report similar symptoms so maybe it is in some way connected I dont know.

If anyone does abstain please come back and tell us more about your symptoms and which ones have disappeared. It may help others :)
 
Im from the uk and have suffered from cannabinoid hyperemisis syndrome since I was 13 years old and am now 18, I gave up the cannabis on and off for the last year but one odd thing I discovered was that whenever I smoked this certain strain off weed called super silver haze I wouldn't wake up sick the next morning!!! But any other strain and bang I would go to sleep and wake up the next morning in agony first starting off with extreme sweating to the ooint I would have to wear a towel dressing gown, then would come the nausea and pain that honestly is the worst pain I've ever experienced, it feels like someones squeezing and twisting your stomach and its so bad it causes the nausea which in sequence causes the constant puking and I would be puking every few minutes and its got so bad in the past its caused my esophagus to tear resulting in me puking blood. The attacks last long aswell, my longest attack and my first lasted a month and 2 weeks!!! Doctors just thought I was suffering from a bad case of gastrointeritis until after a week or so of coming out of the attack I went into yet another which lasted a few weeks and I was actually rushed into hospital as my blood sugar levels were so low and I was so dehydrated. After a year of going through these attacks I was refered through 3 different specialist doctors and I was diagnosed with many different things from brain tumours to kushings disease to cyclical vomiting syndrome (CVS) I Was finally diagnosed with CVS after 3 years of going in and out of these attacks and was tried with many different anti sickness drugs like ondansetron, metraclopramide and even largactol!!! (All MEDS WERE IV AND IM) Which all worked at first but my attacks and sickness were so severe they stopped working in the end and the ondanetron started making me go into these fits so I was then put onto codeine tablets which again worked for a while but it was almost like my body became immune to these drugs. This was still in my 3rd year of these attacks which my doctor told me and diagnosed me with CVS, I thought different though as I was a heavy and daily smoker of cannabis and both my mum and me thought it was the cannabis making me sick even though my specialist doctor thought different so I decided to put it to the test and I abstained from cannabis for 3 weeks and suprise suprise I didn't get sick and to put it to the test even more after 3 weeks of no cannabis I smoked a joint and the next day I was sick with all the symptoms I've described above so I basically diagnosed myself with CHS and NOT CVS. I now no longer smoke cannabis and dont get sick anymore.
Anyway I thought I would write this comment to enlighten people that CHS Is a real thing and it has ruined my life in many ways from messing up my school life and exams from being sick all the time and missing school to being addicted to opiates such as the codeine and a warning to anyone if you get sick the next day after smoking weed just knock it on the head as soon as you can.
Thanks for reading.
 
Im from the uk anf have suffered from cannabinoid hyperemisis syndrome since I was 13 years old and am now 18, I gave up the cannabis on and off for the last year but one odd thing I discovered was that whenever I smoked this certain strain off weed called super silver haze I wouldn't wake up sick the next morning!!! But any other strain and bang I would go to sleep and wake up the next morning in agony first starting off with extreme sweating to the ooint I would have to wear a towel dressing gown, then would come the nausea and pain that honestly is the worst pain I've ever experienced, it feels like someones squeezing and twisting your stomach and its so bad it causes the nausea which in sequence causes the constant puking and I would be puking every few minutes and its got so bad in the past its caused my esophagus to tear resulting in me puking blood. The attacks last long aswell, my longest attack and my first lasted a month and 2 weeks!!! Doctors just thought I was suffering from a bad case of gastrointeritis until after a week or so of coming out of the attack I went into yet another which lasted a few weeks and I was actually rushed into hospital as my blood sugar levels were so low and I was so dehydrated. After a year of going through these attacks I was refered through 3 different specialist doctors and I was diagnosed with many different things from brain tumours to kushings disease to cyclical vomiting syndrome (CVS) I Was finally diagnosed with CVS after 3 years of going in and out of these attacks and was tried with many different anti sickness drugs like ondansetron, metraclopramide and even largactol!!! (All MEDS WERE IV AND IM) Which all worked at first but my attacks and sickness were so severe they stopped working in the end and the ondanetron started making me go into these fits so I was then put onto codeine tablets which again worked for a while but it was almost like my body became immune to these drugs. This was still in my 3rd year of these attacks which my doctor told me and diagnosed me with CVS, I thought different though as I was a heavy and daily smoker of cannabis and both my mum and me thought it was the cannabis making me sick even though my specialist doctor thought different so I decided to put it to the test and I abstained from cannabis for 3 weeks and suprise suprise I didn't get sick and to put it to the test even more after 3 weeks of no cannabis I smoked a joint and the next day I was sick with all the symptoms I've described above so I basically diagnosed myself with CHS and NOT CVS. I now no longer smoke cannabis and dont get sick anymore.
Anyway I thought I would write this comment to enlighten people that CHS Is a real thing and it has ruined my life in many ways from messing up my school life and exams from being sick all the time and missing school to being addicted to opiates such as the codeine and a warning to anyone if you get sick the next day after smoking weed just knock it on the head as soon as you can.
Thanks for reading.
 
Im from the uk anf have suffered from cannabinoid hyperemisis syndrome since I was 13 years old and am now 18, I gave up the cannabis on and off for the last year but one odd thing I discovered was that whenever I smoked this certain strain off weed called super silver haze I wouldn't wake up sick the next morning!!! But any other strain and bang I would go to sleep and wake up the next morning in agony first starting off with extreme sweating to the ooint I would have to wear a towel dressing gown, then would come the nausea and pain that honestly is the worst pain I've ever experienced, it feels like someones squeezing and twisting your stomach and its so bad it causes the nausea which in sequence causes the constant puking and I would be puking every few minutes and its got so bad in the past its caused my esophagus to tear resulting in me puking blood. The attacks last long aswell, my longest attack and my first lasted a month and 2 weeks!!! Doctors just thought I was suffering from a bad case of gastrointeritis until after a week or so of coming out of the attack I went into yet another which lasted a few weeks and I was actually rushed into hospital as my blood sugar levels were so low and I was so dehydrated. After a year of going through these attacks I was refered through 3 different specialist doctors and I was diagnosed with many different things from brain tumours to kushings disease to cyclical vomiting syndrome (CVS) I Was finally diagnosed with CVS after 3 years of going in and out of these attacks and was tried with many different anti sickness drugs like ondansetron, metraclopramide and even largactol!!! (All MEDS WERE IV AND IM) Which all worked at first but my attacks and sickness were so severe they stopped working in the end and the ondanetron started making me go into these fits so I was then put onto codeine tablets which again worked for a while but it was almost like my body became immune to these drugs. This was still in my 3rd year of these attacks which my doctor told me and diagnosed me with CVS, I thought different though as I was a heavy and daily smoker of cannabis and both my mum and me thought it was the cannabis making me sick even though my specialist doctor thought different so I decided to put it to the test and I abstained from cannabis for 3 weeks and suprise suprise I didn't get sick and to put it to the test even more after 3 weeks of no cannabis I smoked a joint and the next day I was sick with all the symptoms I've described above so I basically diagnosed myself with CHS and NOT CVS. I now no longer smoke cannabis and dont get sick anymore.
Anyway I thought I would write this comment to enlighten people that CHS Is a real thing and it has ruined my life in many ways from messing up my school life and exams from being sick all the time and missing school to being addicted to opiates such as the codeine and a warning to anyone if you get sick the next day after smoking weed just knock it on the head as soon as you can.
Thanks for reading.
 
Beleive me theres no point in cutting down I have CHS and had just one drag on my mates joint by accident and I was sick the next day the only thing to stop the sickness attacks is to quit smoking cannabis completely!!! And if you find it hard like I did to quit then the only thing I can suggest is to try smoking solid like I did and the solid didn't make me ill surprisingly enough. I can say 100% that I am a cannabinoid hyperemisis sufferer, so give the solid a try if you haven't already quit smoking cannabis. Ive also noticed you posted your comments a while back so I wondered how your getting on in terms of health? Give me a message back as I would really like to chat to someone who also has CHS. MY email is [email protected]
 
Im from the uk anf have suffered from cannabinoid hyperemisis syndrome since I was 13 years old and am now 18, I gave up the cannabis on and off for the last year but one odd thing I discovered was that whenever I smoked this certain strain off weed called super silver haze I wouldn't wake up sick the next morning!!! But any other strain and bang I would go to sleep and wake up the next morning in agony first starting off with extreme sweating to the ooint I would have to wear a towel dressing gown, then would come the nausea and pain that honestly is the worst pain I've ever experienced, it feels like someones squeezing and twisting your stomach and its so bad it causes the nausea which in sequence causes the constant puking and I would be puking every few minutes and its got so bad in the past its caused my esophagus to tear resulting in me puking blood. The attacks last long aswell, my longest attack and my first lasted a month and 2 weeks!!! Doctors just thought I was suffering from a bad case of gastrointeritis until after a week or so of coming out of the attack I went into yet another which lasted a few weeks and I was actually rushed into hospital as my blood sugar levels were so low and I was so dehydrated. After a year of going through these attacks I was refered through 3 different specialist doctors and I was diagnosed with many different things from brain tumours to kushings disease to cyclical vomiting syndrome (CVS) I Was finally diagnosed with CVS after 3 years of going in and out of these attacks and was tried with many different anti sickness drugs like ondansetron, metraclopramide and even largactol!!! (All MEDS WERE IV AND IM) Which all worked at first but my attacks and sickness were so severe they stopped working in the end and the ondanetron started making me go into these fits so I was then put onto codeine tablets which again worked for a while but it was almost like my body became immune to these drugs. This was still in my 3rd year of these attacks which my doctor told me and diagnosed me with CVS, I thought different though as I was a heavy and daily smoker of cannabis and both my mum and me thought it was the cannabis making me sick even though my specialist doctor thought different so I decided to put it to the test and I abstained from cannabis for 3 weeks and suprise suprise I didn't get sick and to put it to the test even more after 3 weeks of no cannabis I smoked a joint and the next day I was sick with all the symptoms I've described above so I basically diagnosed myself with CHS and NOT CVS. I now no longer smoke cannabis and dont get sick anymore.
Anyway I thought I would write this comment to enlighten people that CHS Is a real thing and it has ruined my life in many ways from messing up my school life and exams from being sick all the time and missing school to being addicted to opiates such as the codeine and a warning to anyone if you get sick the next day after smoking weed just knock it on the head as soon as you can.
Thanks for reading.
 
zofran did nothing to help my vomiting tried that tried carafate, bentyl reglan nothing makes it go away but time and a lot of agony and a whole lot of vomiting its excruciating i have been smoking for 25 yrs and this started about two yrs ago and is very random i will be fine for a few days even a few weeks but it always comes back and the doctors cant figure out what it is, i have had so many tests done and everything comes back normal i have never heard of this syndrome before but the more i read about other peoples symptoms the more i think this is whats wrong with me the symptoms are exactly the same as mine usually starts in the morning my face sweats constantly it starts with gagging and stomach pain then the vomiting starts and i am bedbound and feel like i am gonna die its happened many many times over the past two years so I am gonna have to give up one of my greatest joys besides my kids of course lol to see if this is whats causing it that sux!!!!! but i cant keep going through this its not worth it!!!!
 
Cannabis Hyperemesis still lacks any semblance to "scientific evidence". Many, many of the articles out there discussing it are filled to the brim with subliminal anti-pot fear-mongering and over-the-top illustration.

Think for a second - how do you assume your body would react if you smoked 15 grams of tobacco a day? Much the same. There are no studies that attempt to see if long term CANNABINOID use (via any ROA other than SMOKING) would provide similar symptoms. This is simply what appears to be anecdotal evidence. I wasn't convinced when this first surfaced in the main stream years ago, and I am not convinced now.

Anyway, if anyone doubts that the human psychological system alone can't produce symptoms very similiar to these (read: panic attacks, anxiety, social pobieas, disorders), then you haven't done your research.

It seems to me common sense would dictate that smoking a major abusive level of cannabis would obviously result in sickness. In all reported cases, ceasing to SMOKE cannabinoids have lead to the symptoms dissapearing - they are not prolonged.

The whole bathtub mythology of this has been mostly rejected - many people say they have Cannabis Hyperemesis and yet, showers and warm water do not help.

I have a theory that Cannabis Hyperemesis is caused by inhaling butane for a long period of time, but I have never talked to anyone with this condition who only smokes joints so I can't really prove it right or wrong.
 
I live in canada as well in the maritimes. I am on day 5 of vomiting and dealing with chs. I have been a heavy smoker for the better part of the last 3 years, smoking 3-4 grams a day. Im 20 years old. I started with joints, then started doing poppers with my friends and i got worse so much faster. I was hospitalized about two months ago because i couldn't stop vomiting where i was given a gravol and discharged. For the last two years i had been dealing with what i thought was acid reflux. I had many tests done that came back negative for anything, other than the vomiting and abdominal pain i was healthy. I went to the hospital again this monday ( today being friday) and was totally shocked when the er doctor asked if i was a heavy cannabis user. He hooked me up to an iv for a couple of hours, printed me off wikis version of the syndrome ad sent me home with no advice... This blog has really given me some insight but i still am not really sure on how to go about getting better, although i am on day 3 of abstinence. Any feed back would be appreciated since i havent been able to eat or keep anything down since sunday night
 
Also forgot to mention that over the past 3 days ive taken about 30 showers and baths... They have helped quite a bit but as soon as i get out im instantly queasy again... :(
 
Alright guys, I've been reading this thread since Feb 2012, every single post.

When I was 18 my senior year I missed half of the school year due to an unexplained illness that had been crippling my daily life. I missed graduation, prom, and all the fairwell senior parties. I have been smoking pot consistently since I've been 14 years old. It started simply, at first I thought it was the flu, general morning sickness. My parents even teased me and said I was pregnant. 4 months later with no improvement, it stopped being "just the flu". Hospital trips, IV fluids, I got it all to help me through the persistent vomitting. After losing 80 pounds, I was about as desperate as they get. Even suicidal. My girlfriend studies medicine and had been researching my symptoms. It was only about a month in when she warned me of Cannabis Hyperemesis Syndrome. I couldn't believe pot was causing this, especially since im smoke less then 3 grams a day. They eventually decided it was CVS and tried to help to figure out my trigure

I had Nausea every morning, would throw up food that I had eaten 15 hours earlier, whole. I went to gastroenterologist's left and right and got all the tests in the book done. You name it, they tested for it. Everything was peachy clean. I never brought up my cannabis use cause I couldn't and wouldn't believe it was the cause.

Eventually I was diagnosed with CVS with all other possibilities eliminated. That was until I saw the best gastroenterologist in the state of Illinois (cost me a fortune and the wait was ridiculous)

Within 15 minutes of entering his office I was diagnosed with CHS. He told me he got around 40 patients a year with this syndrome (all these people had no symptoms after ceasing cannabis intake)

I ceased cannabis use (I really love it and didn't want too) 3 weeks later I was living a normal life symptom free. I know people are so quick to discount this as a real thing, but my life is better proof to me then any wiki article or study.

My symptoms just returned 13 months later. I smoked during this entire period (started again in smaller amounts after a few weeks of quitting, my use was never as heavy though). This summer my smoking really increased, and two mornings ago I was back in the same place, throwing up in the morning. I instantly ceased all cannabis use and will report back in a few days or weeks to give results.

Ask yourself how many people are diagnosed with CVS who smoke weed daily to relieve the symptoms, when this is actually the cause?

IF there is even a chance that this is real, you could save people lives with the correct diagnosis. Why discount something that could be someone's cure?

I know all my evidence is anecdotal, but this is my life and these are real experiences. Give quitting a shot if you experience ANY of these symptoms.

Also, Im very much still pro legalization and pro recreational use. Burn up for me, but at least try to understand what I'm saying.

Thanks all.
 
I was browsing this thread and have seen a few post that were similar to how I felt/feel. (cannablissxx is one, danamm4577)

Just because your er doctor told you you have cannabis hyperemesis syndrome, doesn't mean you should discredit any other possible diagnosis. I suggest some people here to get a full spectrum of gastro tests done to find the root of the problem. I am shaking my head when I think of all the possible doctors shying away patients who may have a much more serious problem at hand. How is a doctor going to diagnose a condition with out ruling out other common but, potentially serious gastro conditions first. They can't possibly be certain without running through all the tests.
I experience nausea and uncontrollable vomiting as well as other gastro symptoms. Mornings were a nightmare. I had to roll out of bed and crawl to the toilet and vomit bile uncontrollably. That is in the nicest way of saying it. It was NO way to live. If my lady wasn't here to help me through those times, I don't know what I would do. It effected everyone... not just me. My friends, family, lady etc. I would be fine and ready to go see a show, party (don't drink, use too before this all started) festivals, travel anything . When all of a sudden my symptoms hit me like a freight train. I found more and more my friends and family had a hard time enjoying what we are doing with concern for how i feel/ my health. No matter how many times I told them I am use to it, I'm fine and enjoy what were doing, not to worry bout me they would always feel horrible. It's no doubt hard when you see a buddy feeling the way I did. I won't lie, it was scary at times. For me and people who cared about me. I lost around 40 lbs at my worst and I am not a big guy (but inshape). Any doctor that I suggested warm baths helped my pain (nothing for nausea really but, only thing I had to help at the time) they pointed me in the direction of cannabis hypermesis. I researched it and instantly shrugged 95% of it off due to various reasons.
That was before I got a full spectrum of gastro tests done. I always shrugged off the CHS due to the fact marijuana is the only thing that really allows me to eat and in turn gain weight. I ended up being diagnosed with a pretty serious gastro condition. If I stopped and settled with CHS (all studies I got directed to were pathetic imo) I would still be in the same place I was 3 years ago which is no where good. A full range of gastro tests will cost tons (probably not possible) with out insurance and don't expect it to get done fast. I got "lucky" since what I was going through was SO bad they rushed all the testing. I had over a years testing done in a matter of days. I am very appreciative of that and understand that won't be possible for most. I HIGHLY recommend scheduling an appointment with a gastroenterologist and have them give you referals to get the appropriate testing done. Though what I got diagnosed with is not really "curable" it certainly is manageable with various medications. Not everyone that has the condition I have, suffers the way I do. But, I am not alone and either are you guys. Though I am not a doctor lot's of posters here have almost identical symptoms and I can say with certainty some of you have a bigger underlying issue than CHS. My understanding is this condition is only an issue in people with a severely low endocannabinoid levels.

My situation is a bit different and I am purposely leaving out specifics for my privacy. But, if anyone wants more information in detail on what I went through shoot me a pm. I would be glad to give you some background and advice.
 
Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome is serious and i have no idea how to help this girl.

Ok so my ex girlfriend smokes alot of weed, then out of no where she started getting violently sick right after her period and it honestly reminds me of straight up Heroin withdrawls, without the shitting, craving and skin crawl but she constantly has this horrible stomach ache, and right now is violently throwing her guts up every 2 minutes, you try and get her to take a sip of water, Vomit, you dont give her water vomit, she lays vomit, no what what we do she keeps getting sick and we can't do ANYTHING to fix it. We've had her in the hospital 3 times for this, and they just keep her in there trying denausiation drugs that DO NOTHING and give her and iv for fluid which is good since she can't keep anything down. It's extreamly violent, like i said it reminds me of straight Heroin wds without the other symtoms i would have when i had a bundle, bundle an a half habit iv a day. We've tried multiple things to stop nausea and vomiting but NOTHING is helping she doesnt stop, Does anyone on here know of this, heard of this of have any idea of how to help her as we speak, shes already said shes done smoking weed but that isnt helping her right now. I actually thought it was bullshit until i saw the actual symtoms of it i thought the dr was just blaming pot because she said she smoked it. So yes my question is doesnt anyone know how i can help her? i have mutiple benzo's but i dont see how they could other than to calm her down and maybe knock her out but she refuses to take any drugs yet will smoke her brains but if i can prove to her it will help shes willing for anything to help her at this point, so any help people let me know, bluelight yous have never let me down before, thank yous in advance and sorry for it being all over the place just my minds blown this is the third time shes came here violently sick and it really is from Cannabis i couldn't believe it.:?
Thank yous.

- B

The only thing that seems to help temporarily is her laying in the bathtub, but now that isnt even helping anymore. i really don't know what to do now because that isnt helping anymore :(
 
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I've heard these symptoms are only temporary and come back when weed is smoked again. Just try to get her to wait it out mang.
 
I hear you man, im not sure if you've ever been in a room with someone in full blown High tolorance IV H WD's and this is seriously reminding me of this, and i do appreciate you trying to help but it's to the that kind of point where it's so bad, the girl if seriously throwing up every 1-2 minutes violently now it's just violent heaves and no more bile. we try to get her to eat ice chips and Ginger Ale for some kind of hydration and it comes immediately after she sips or swallows the ice chips. It's really bad and violent. I know it sounds like if being over played or exagerated but it really isnt and you are right about it lasting a night or 2 but then days and nights are brutal like i keep saying it reminds me of full blown heroin wd. I offered her Valium but she wont take it, i know that this is mental and psysical i notice its clearly mental and psyshical, so its like ok if i could calm her with a mild benzo i dont wanna give her xanax or klonopin or Temazepem i got them here but shed just be fucked up and i doubt i could even get her to take them and i dont want to hurt her, so i thought maybe giving her 10mgs of Diazepam would help for her mental part of it. I just don't want to hurt her anymore ya know...

like, i can't believe this is even possible from Cannabis like when i smoked yes i smoked for years then it started making my anxiedy and panic disorder worse so i had to stop because i had panic attacks everytime so the high wasnt worth it know what im saying, but this is seriously scaring the fuck out of all of us for her, nothing is helping. We've tried the red stuff they give pregnant woman for morning sickness and that didnt help the last 2 times at all, the dr said to stop smoking but she smoked a couple times and was fine and last night smoked i guess certain strains are doing it, or it in general. She was doing Dbombs ( dab) and straight blunts. I was like atleast try a water bong so atleast its filterd maybe that'd take out negative alkaloids but she didn't. but at this point shes done smoking for good just trying to get her through this without her dying on me. Shes seriously dehydrated and as i said just keeps sweating, puking and anytime she sips anything or ice chips right away they come back up. The denausiators they gave her in the hospital didn't work, i asked if Bental would help because when i was in Detox, they gave me a Bental IM shot and it did stop me from vomiting. But That was for Opoids not Cannabis. They actually ignored it and gave her something else that didnt work. she just was stuck in the hospital for 2 days. Her Family dr said that it sounds like Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome and from whats happening it sounds like it as well. i just wanna help her ya know i dont mean to keep blasting this post but it doesnt seem to be getting better but worse. Shes pale and her liver side is swollen and when they took blood at the hospital last time they said her liver was puting out certain enzymes and that it could be from severe dehydration and i forget the other but it made a little sense because she was definitely seriously dehydrated. I was thinking maybe bendryl to help to put her to sleep since when she's asleep she isnt throwing up but the second shes awake bang, there she goes again. So that's why i was thinking maybe a low dose benzo to calm her, as i said 10mgs valium, and that should knock her out eventually anyway since she's never taken one. but i dont want to harm her, and of it did help, and she wanted to sleep if it'd be safe to let her take some benadryl to knock her out and i know Benadryl will potentiate Diazepam but i dont know what to do. But if this sounds like a good idea to try, i will do so, if it sounds like a bad idea i won't. Just trying to figure out what to do here ya know...

i just found a bottle of 10mg Prochlorper pills, would these be safe and effective for her to take with her condition because from what i looked up they seem to be pretty strong they are Rx'd the cancer patients and such, Shes Not Allergic to any medications. Thanks in advance...
-B
 
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