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[Kilfer]

Do you think it will go through ?

No.

Not having IR opiates is just retarded

And is probably illegal as well. Having not heard or read Ambrose's statement I can't say with 100% certainty that she meant all opiates should be XR, or only certain ones.

And if Trudeau becomes MP with Mulcair as opposition

Or the other way around. In any case both are from Quebec and historically Prime Ministers from that province have proven to be more open-minded than those from elsewhere regardless of which party they lead. Chretien was a "tough guy" though, but both Trudeau Jr and Mulcair appear to be compassionate-minded about drugs.

And if the BQ gains about 20-25 seats, sure, notl ike they used to be, but better than the 4 MP's they got now....

This is unlikely, separatism in Quebec is waning and the younger voters are very attracted to the NDP despite Jack Layton's passing, which that the BQ had -kinda stupidly- thought would've brought them some of the NDP votes. I wouldn't be surprised if the BQ simply evaporated. Anyway like you say with only 4 seats they don't count for much now. That said, you are right that the BQ held Harper in check for many years, but fortunately most of the BQ's seats were lost to the NDP not to the Tories.

As for more people turning to heroin, I agree, but in some big centers in Canada, heroin is close to non existent and only sold inside very small circles, like in my city (which means more people will end up on the horrible side-laden Methadone or slightly less bad but still very dubious in long term safety maintenance bupe....bravo Rona, you prove to us once again that your party is about spreading misery and hate, like how they just made it so that mental illness is almost no longer a factor when judging someone in court (happened today). I turned to the needle back then because the removed Oxycontin, my dealer used to have Supeudols/OXY IR's too, but when Oxycontin was removed for a whole year, he suddenly couldn't get those anymore either, only Dillies and HM Contins. Since it was pretty costly to eat those, I wass snorting them and soon turned to shooting up, since I looked elsewhere after the flow of oxycodone stopped and had this guy with a lot of Statex 30mg, so I shot a lot of morphine and then said alright, i'll do the same with Dilaudid. All this because doctors,who aren't even watched over by agencies like the DEA here didn't treat me seriously,

Therre is no DEA but doctors are monitored by the Feds, by the province where they practice and by their professional associations, just like lawyers are regulated by the Bar. The Feds keep tabs on Schedule I, II, III, and IV drugs but provinces also monitor them through their public drug insurance programs. A physician who overprescribes can be reprimanded for a first offense, then it gets more serious if he/she continues.

Anyway, it's embarassing that such an idiot could get away with this. I predict she will not get what she wants, the concept of breakthrough pain is legit, they can't do anything about it.

More importantly, ministers in Canada have little actual power over their departments which are run by civil servants such as Deputy Ministers and Associate Ministers. While the Minister can replace the Deputy Minister she can't get rid of Associate Ministers and department heads. This makes implementing new policies a very slow process. The "idiot" is in for quite a ride.

 

[Kilfer]

5 mg Percocets seem to be the go-to opioid for minor pain in eastern Ontario. That's what I got when I had my wisdom teeth removed in Ottawa.

My poor ex-girlfriend got hers out in Halifax and only got Tylenol 3s, haha.

I got Demerol

 

[Nikita30]

Hey robo, I am in bc and looking for those. Do you know of anywhere around salmon arm vernon area.

 

[Nikita30]

Or if anyone is in my area, let me know please and thank you. New to town and waiting to see my Dr but until then.

 

[Nikita30]

Where? Do you have any or a name?

 

[Nikita30]

Kilfer where are you located?

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

Dunno but for cough I either get pure 30mg codeine pills (pure as in no other active ingredients) or that shitty Cophylac syrup that contains normethadone instead of hydrocodone. If normethadone has any psychoactive properties I have yet to feel them.

I doubt Parliament will follow suit, as there is no political pressure to amend the policies of compassionate care. Any change would likely result in a loss of public support for the CP especially in BC, Ontario and Quebec so Harper, who can't afford making so many voters irate at backward US-style drug policies will likely rein in Ambrose or shuffle her once more to another department. My belief in this is the main reason I live -and vote- in Canada. I have dual citizenship and used to live in NYC and my native Vermont but drug laws in the US are abusive to the point of being inhumane... except in the military. I served in the US Navy for 3 years and the reasonable complaints of pain or cough were dealt with copious handouts of Vicodin.



They used to be frequently prescribed up to the 1990's but the advent of other forms of oxycodone with supposedly less addictive properties (it always amazes me what some physicians will believe) pretty much killed Percocet's market, just like Percocet itself had taken over Darvocet 20 years prior. That said, some physicians still prescribe Percocet when a patient doesn't want oxy in other forms. Supeudol has been around for a long time, 30 years or so, but seems to be enjoying a booming popularity nowadays. As more of it is being prescribed, street supply is growing. Originally Supeudol was developed for patients who could not swallow or digest properly. The rectal ROA was at least freeing them from remaining hooked to an IV dispenser and/or occupying beds in the ER or ICU. I don't know the reason for the current surge.




Percocet, or even any form or oxy for that matter, "for terminal phase cancer only!" and then gives you 60 2mg dillies? Please add this dentist to what I said about some physicians above. But not all are ignorant. In my Navy days my ship did not have its own dentist only a doctor so I would endure a tootache (with the help of Vicos) and wait until we docked in Norfolk so I could see a certain military dentist there who always prescribed Demerol after extractions, filling, root canals and other invasive procedures. He would say "I don't give pain a fucking chance".



I think the Demis were for children and/or the very elderly.

They're still around, my little cousin got them for toothache that wasn't going away with lidocaine. Anyway hello glad to see you, I wonder how you are from QC and ended up in the US military! Yeah selling OXY IR/Supeudol as something less addictive than Percocet to doctors/dentists when the only difference is that they do not contain tylenol (so, more abusable) like our awesome Hycodan syrup and pills FWIW, a friend called me last year and he told me he had percodan from the dentist, dentists are really generous with the painkillers in QC is all I can say, he didn't have straight up Percodan, doesn't exist anymore, he had Oxycodan, the generic form of Percodan like Oxycocet is the generic of Percocet ( I should have known and just mentioned that, not mentioning brand names is a good trick 'round here, except for like generic no name pure oxycodone pills that follow the OXY IR / Supeudol format of 5-10-20mg. But yeah for my jaw issues, I was thrown 60 2mg Dillies with a refill on each revisit, they can't give me surgery, too dangerous, the area there is covered with nerves which are already damaged for me which at some point caused me trigeminal neuralgias on top of the TMJ disorder problem, goddamn hardcore punk and jumping into the crowd with your guitar....that's how the degenerative problem got kickstarted, I was already a mess from bruxism, like when I am really into writing guitar riffs/studying/video games, whatever catches my attention cos I love it/it interests me, I start to tighten my jaw (both sides), but that's an ADD symptom apparently, Dexedrine helped ADD, but it made any sort of muscle contraction worse.

I tried a bunch of muscle relaxants and flexeril and orphenadrine with subuxone sends me straight to bed. How's Zanaflex? Only one I didn't take ( I don't count shitty Robaxisal pills here (methocarbamol + codeine + tylenol). There's some OTC, but there's actually some 15mg, 30mg, 60mg codeine of those Robaxisal, often i was thinking this could be the med that I could get to take everyday without pissing off the medical system.

Supeudol has been around for a long time, 30 years or so, but seems to be enjoying a booming popularity nowadays. As more of it is being prescribed, street supply is growing. Originally Supeudol was developed for patients who could not swallow or digest properly.

This is Supeudols, OXY IR's do not look any different, but the 20mg pills were surely not made for people having problems swallowing, they are MASSIVE, enough so that people won't shoot em up, those who insist on slamming Oxy IR's prefer the 10's by far haha.

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

No.



And is probably illegal as well. Having not heard or read Ambrose's statement I can't say with 100% certainty that she meant all opiates should be XR, or only certain ones.




Or the other way around. In any case both are from Quebec and historically Prime Ministers from that province have proven to be more open-minded than those from elsewhere regardless of which party they lead. Chretien was a "tough guy" though, but both Trudeau Jr and Mulcair appear to be compassionate-minded about drugs.




This is unlikely, separatism in Quebec is waning and the younger voters are very attracted to the NDP despite Jack Layton's passing, which that the BQ had -kinda stupidly- thought would've brought them some of the NDP votes. I wouldn't be surprised if the BQ simply evaporated. Anyway like you say with only 4 seats they don't count for much now. That said, you are right that the BQ held Harper in check for many years, but fortunately most of the BQ's seats were lost to the NDP not to the Tories.



Therre is no DEA but doctors are monitored by the Feds, by the province where they practice and by their professional associations, just like lawyers are regulated by the Bar. The Feds keep tabs on Schedule I, II, III, and IV drugs but provinces also monitor them through their public drug insurance programs. A physician who overprescribes can be reprimanded for a first offense, then it gets more serious if he/she continues.



More importantly, ministers in Canada have little actual power over their departments which are run by civil servants such as Deputy Ministers and Associate Ministers. While the Minister can replace the Deputy Minister she can't get rid of Associate Ministers and department heads. This makes implementing new policies a very slow process. The "idiot" is in for quite a ride.

Just wanted to say, I live in a county where BQ has a seat, most of the polls so far put BQ second or third in quebec overall, they aren't dead, we were kinda robbed with the Layton-knew-he-was-gonna-die....the BQ was a required wall against the stupidity of both mainstream conservatives and fake liberals (this is what caused their downfall, liberals just like that conservatives, left of center a little or gtfo please (when it comes to Liberals).

Let's never forget Harper was in minority for 5 years because even people who don't follow politics at all feel bad vibes from Harper, ON TV and that he managed to get power because he was held in contempt of Parliament, meaning, he spits on all canadians who doesn't agree with him, tells em to go fuck themselves with his little feminine zionist sucking lips. And he won,because NDP wasn't going to wait to put him in contempt of parliament, as Liberals regain some of their traditional power, they knew it was happening and that's a second reason why they did the contempt of parliament thing at that time, Trudeau Jr as of now being voted prime minister if election were today since 2011.

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

Don't worry they won't be able to make all meds XR because that would be very stupid. You need IR meds for breakthrough pain and that's that. As for Jurnista insurance companies here don't even cover it and you can beat the time release on those fairly easy if you know how to. I've never seen the fuckers before though cause here it's all hydromorph contins. Jesus those hydromorph contins really got me hooked bad last year cause the dose is so high. I ended up banging 3 18's at a time which is insane and fucking retarded.

I just re-read that, that is insane bro haha. I never did that before i went for ORT detox. But I was slamming 32mg to 56mg of dilaudid, good old brand name D4's yellows and once I got the 8mg triangle of love....I don't have cravings since i'm on bupe but I still regard these times highly(heh), at least life wasn't boring. The best I can hope for now is waking up after sleeping not long enough, mixing 3 benzos (valium, xanax, flubromazepam, oh sometimes 4, my friends gives me oxazepam 15's and 10's (lol, they actually make oxazepam 10's, they're beige) by the handful so i get to feel them; + 100mg hydroxyzine then I sub my suboxone with the intense teeth brushing + mouthwash trick before, it really makes a difference, especially holding the tiny bit of mouthwash (listerine is 40% alcohol) and smoke a tiny bit of weed or AB-Fubinaca sprayed damiana (made it to stage III, it was made by pfizer, so i trust it like I trust Cesamet) to feel really high now, and of course no rush, but I guess it's like the trick they did when people slammed Talwin...well when people slam Talwin, it's still in the prescription book, I got some 2 years ago before i went on methadone and now bupe, the 50mg pills with no naloxone, since its agonist-antagonist I guess a strong antihistamine like hydroxyzine really helps making bupe more interesting, like they do for Talwin.

tl;drSuch a shot would have had me puke everywhere...bahah, although I don't know, I feel there's no need to shoot more than 12mg of Dilaudid at once, the rush isn't that much more intense at 16mg or 20mg (a shot I did with a lot of dilaudid 4mg I acquired last year while on bupe, decided not to take bupe for 3 days but man bupe shot my tolerance sky high, when I switch back to methadone it's going to be way over the most i ever did...and then the game of going down 2-3mg a month will come again, except maybe i'll ask for it every 2 weeks, because if I manage to do all this, I'm sent to a pain clinic where i'll get the real fun shit, i'm asking for the generic Oxycontins and that's it, nothing else, the fact they removed Oxycontins (and i couldnt find OXY IR at the same time) 2 years ago which is what caused me to pick up the needle since all I could get was brand name dillies which according to here and elsewhere is a delicacy and HM Contins....I was fine with just eating a couple 10mg oxycontins and munching em back then with a supeudol 20mg. I would never go higher than 40mg of oxycodone. Sure now my dosing is assured and no need to deal with jackass dealers or harassing people who had accidents for the rest of their scripts (so often Dilaudid 2mg's) but I'm not living my life on my own terms and that's unacceptable to me.

 

[ziggie]

Im in the national capital and I was wondering if anyone else finds it hard tofind any opiates these days

 

[hamburgertime]

Kilfer,

You seem like a pretty reliable guy. As an American, I just wanted to ask some questions about pain killers in Canada.
How does one go about getting pain killers in Canada? In America we have primary physicians and pain management clinics. Before the rescheduling of hydrocodone I was getting those prescribed by my nurse practitioner, but now as a 22 year old male with out no MRI scan of my back it's pretty much impossible.

How easy is it for 20 year olds, 30 year olds, to get pain meds in Canada? How liberal are they with the number of pills they give a month?

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

I can give my answer on that, depends on provinces, Provinces have their own policies regarding medication and the insurance for it, which is provincial if your workplace doesn't offer the insurance.

I'll say that if the circumstances demand it, especially if you show to be taking care of your own health responsibly, doctors will respond. I had a lot of otitis in my middle left ear in my life and sometimes the pain was so unbearable I had to go to the ER immediately. Last time it happened, the nurse looked in my ear with a light and I was given a 5mg IR oxy (completely opiate naive then). Another time, I had fought a pneumonia and had to go to the ER 3 times and had an emergency appointment with my lung doc (I have some slight asthma) scheduled by the ER doc doing its best to get me there the next day. Anyway, I brought a bag showing I was taking tylenol 500mg every 4 hours for fever, drinking tons of water, had sudafed 12 hours to help me breathe better and some stupid DXM containing syrup that never worked for me anyways (for cough). I explained what was going on with my painful to the chest and throat cough from hell and I was scripted z of pure hydrocodone syrup (Hycodan), I didn't ask for it. Later, when they see you have had a script for such in the past and suffer from similar symptoms, you'll be given codeine or hydrocodone syrup or pills (pure, there is Hycodan 5mg pills and 30mg pure codeine pills).

When it comes for dental/jaw pain you'll get Dilaudid scripted very often, in fact Dilaudid is used a lot, because of it's low BA, not many people catch a buzz from eating a 1mg blue dilaudid or even a 2mg. I've been scripted either 1mg or 2mg Dilaudid because of a jaw issue in short bursts of 30 or 60 pills once a year by my then jaw specialist dentist. Also, Empracets (30mg codeine/300mg APAP) are pretty much used like how hydrocodone+apap pills are used in the US here for medium pain that is constant, Tramacet (no pure tramadol here) hasn't budged it in my province.

Anyways, basically if you have an indication for pain meds you'll get them, you might not get a high enough dose or enough as you want, but believe me, most who don't ever shoot up the ever so easily scripted Dilaudid (shooting up is really looked horribly here even by crackheads) or Hydromorph Contins like I ended up doing should count their lucky stars, basically if you don't lie and have shown to have tried other things before even showing up at a doctor, they'll treat you okay.

 

[MississaugaMan]

The pain mgmt clinic i attend in a big city in Ontario is very strict in terms of drug testing for SPECIFIC opioids/opiates in your blood.

For example, even though i am prescribed 480 hydromorph contin 30mg caps a month for permanent, severe cervical, lumbar disc pain due to a major fracture that never healed (plus a more recent bunch of injuries incurred when my main parachute failed to open during my first tandem skydive), if i were to test positive for ANY other opioid/opiate - even the codeine in T1s (i know it wouldnt make sense to use it ofc) - i would get tapered down and off by the pain doc as fast as is responsible in his eyes and tossed out on my ass.

Having said that, when you've been told at 33 that you'll be on strong strong pain meds for the rest of your life bc of rhe shape or ur back, i see no point in abusing other stuff. There is a big smile on my face thinking that ill never have to hit the streets and pay dealer prices ever again

Hope everyone is doing awesome today!

MissMan

 

[MississaugaMan]

Mississauga with great H? ive got legit hydromorph contin script from pain mgmt clinic so i dont look anymore, but i NEVER found ANY H in mississauga anywhere. And im even talkin in the traditional drug heavy areas

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

Such is life in eastern Canada, heroin is very rare, and when you can get some, stupid expensive. I've never ever seen heroin irl, I've seen pretty much everything else in different quantities. Also shooting up, any, drug, is viewed as extremely disgusting even by the most rotten teeth (which makes no sense since they are always on welfare and if they work its either paid under the table or something illegal, after 2 years on welfare in qc, you get free dental service) meth user / crack smoker will cut contact with somebody who admits to shooting up a 2mg dilaudid where in my hometown. It's a little less like that here in Montreal but the same. I've been offered heroin once but I had to call a guy who would have to drive to my home (not something I like if that's the only option) and pay ridiculous prices for just .1 while getting 4x4mg dilaudid (brand name) would be much less costly than staying the night out in a bar having 4-5 drinks, to give an idea. And yeah, HM Contins are very popular here too, legally or not. It's your doctor who decides if you're in pain mgnt, when I was treated for pain, I was taking CodeineContins 150mg twice a day + a couple Empracets 60mg/300mg (codeine/apap), my pain didn't really involve Dilaudid unless in small quantities sometimes to add on top of. We really get hydromorphone easily in both its forms here, well, there's also Jurnistas, but the only guy I knew who were on them switched back to HMC's very fast, heh, especially since he would crush the beads in his 30mg red bombs,and fill the gelcap back and eat it that way...30mg IR bam, I'm sure it worked, but since I was paying for them when using...IV was the only way that made sense.

Some docs are aware of that and will script oxyIR/oxycontin(neo or generic) since nobody I know who had a legit script for both of these (would have to take 2 10mg oxycontins + a 5mg and later a 10mg for breakthrough pain, never IV'd them, being quite content with the massive oral BA, which Dilaudid does not have. Even large doses of morphine work better orally, which is how it ended for me (IV'ing) since the guy who was supplying me, for various reasons I stopped seeing him, but he had his HMC's and dilaudid (a massive amount of 30mg a day, 4 + 4x4mg dilaudid every 4 hours if needed for breakthrough pain) changed to Morphine (Kadians 130mg) + Statex 50mg (MS IR's better cousin). I slammed some Statex a little but he was very weary of selling me those....the kind of person who doesn't understand that 50mg of something and 4mg of something else isn't equivalent...anyway, I'm on the mr clean pills since a long time now (suboxone) and while not too great for pain, I got some of a fentanyl analog I sometimes take a tiny snort of and it goes right over the suboxone, especially if I take less than normal. Not recommended for people without a great scale. Really, the doc who started me on pain management wasn't a pain management doc, but a maxilofacial dentist (jaw specialist) who had all the x-ray's that warranted me being on Codeine over the clock, I was ok with that and his sudden retirement without recourse to any other doc left me in a shit position which was stepping stones to getting on suboxone, something I can only have a week supply of, well not even, I have to take a dose in front of the pharmacist still and sit down 10 minutes so the pills are all dissolved every damn tuesday.

Be safe and luckier than me guys!

 

[MississaugaMan]

Yeah, Canada in general sucks for street opiates and is even worse when you need medication and are going through the proper channels

It's sad, because those who legitimately need pain medication for CHRONIC, SEVERE pain run into issues getting what they need because of the few who choose to abuse the medical system.

I can't count the number of people's posts i read where they mention "i would run out early", "i shared mine with a sick friend bc i cared too much to see them in pain", "i asked for generic oxycodone bc the oxyneo doesnt work"...

Edit: im referring to ppl who say oxyneo doesn't work but oxycontin of the same mg dose did. Its the exact same thing as saying Life Brand acetaminophen 300mg doesn't work for me but Tylenol brand acet 300mg did lol.

and as someone who had/has a fair number of friends who abuse opiates, all the above 'explanations' for why they got cut off are the typical junkie excuses and the main reason why those with legit, chronic pain struggle to find doctors who aren't leery of prescribing anything more than a 20-pill supply of T3s.

I spent six months underdosed while i waited for my referral to a pain clinic to come to fruition AND THIS WAS AFTER A SKYDIVING ACCIDENT that left me w herniated discs, fractures that never healed properly, and more metal in me than some small motorcycles lol

For those reading this who are still lucky enough to have legit scripts and good doctors, PLEASE take your meds as prescribed. If it says orally, and 3 times a day then do that. If your doctor volunteers to try you on a med, don't "suggest" what you want to be on or what dosage you feel is appropriate. Put it this way, he may underdose you, but some is infinitely better than none. And if you are patient and responsible, from experience they are much more likely to titrate you upwards once they realize you aren't a drug seeker. The doctor has a lot to lose in this day and age, try to see it from their side too even - as a chronic severe pain patient i know - even if the pain makes it hard.

I love my fellow opiate users, and hope you are able to find what you need recreationally on the street and for those who need it, medically through a doctor.

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

Damn man, you're unlucky.

Most doctors in Quebec, if you deserve it, certainly after a skydiving accident, would put you on opiate painkillers.

I know a girl who had a really bad car accident that ripped a part of her lung. She was on Dilaudid 2mg x 6 a day + Hydrocodone syrup 20mg per dose, so 20ml for a good year but she was kinda coerced into stopping all that after a year and use that shitty Cophylac drops normethadone containing antitussive...I'm pretty sure normethadone is not something one can get a high or painkilling from, plus it contains 4-hydroxy-ephedrine...so if one enjoys tachycardia and not coughing...I guess it's worth something, just kidding, docs always script codeine syrup for serious flu/bronchitis/pneumonia at the very least, and at least here, codeine or hydrocodone syrup is pure, no icky promethazine that will make you delirious before you achieve some psychoactive effects.

Now she gets Lyrica and a dozen Zytram XL (tramadol XR) a month...I'm sorry but I would refuse being put on tramadol. Once I asked for Tramadol when i was going to get a pure codeine pill script like an idiot just to try it "I read it is not very addictive compared to other opioids" and she was amused (the ER doc) and she went you mean Tramacet (we don't even have pure tramadol IR lol) ? It has Tylenol in them also, do you mind that? My guess is that I could have gotten stronger stuff from her easily, I had to go back to the ER and say no way I hate this stuff it made me have tremors (not lying), so i had the 30mg pure codeine pills finally.

It depends on location and province....Ontario is pretty severe if you're from there...that I know, because of the "Oxycontin Epidemic"....and btw I wouldn't count asking for generic oxycontin as a warning sign, they do cost less than Neos and that's it. OxyNeos do indeed work less well orally even if you don't chew your generic or old oxycontin...my ex pharm dealer is also a pain patient and he was saying how OxyNeos' release system sucked ass...americans say the same for OP's Oxycontins, and I think Neos are pretty much the same as OP's... I don't know which province you're from also, because if by street opiates you also included pharms...pharms are very available in the streets compared to heroin, especially HM Contins and Kadians/M-Eslons...but be warned, there's dipshits who remove some of the beads or even sometimes replace them partially with Effexor XR beads! That would be very fucked up to IV...I'm very sensitive to those SSRI's/SNRI's piece of shits, once I tried getting on Effexor XR and one 37.5mg gelcap had me get huge pupils like if I ate 4-5 blotters and felt really really weird for 48 hours...but that's something else entirely.

But yeah, I didn't fake my conditions and I got treatment, CodeineContin and Empracets, and some Naproxen which I didn't use, NSAIDS except Meloxicam all give me the shit and I refuse to take that toxic thing they like to call Celebrex...


edit: should have read your nickname, you're indeed in Ontario...a pretty austere province when it comes to opiates because of your ex prime minister's hysteria regarding oxycontin, now all other opiates have been shoved in as "dangerous". I was so glad when the health minister back then allowed (it's the law, she couldn't do different) generic oxycontin, people were just gonna try and get Supeudols/OxyIR's 20mg a lot more in the end..so..not much different. In Quebec there is no hysteria regarding opiates at all...we're very well know for our weed and many people for mild pain will just smoke weed here. Can't do that anymore though, smoked weed 9 years in a row and I didn't even enjoy the last 3 or 4 years, I only did it because...it was what I did, associated myself with being a weed smoker way too much, but when it didn't make me feel bad, it did enhance the codeine I was on around the clock, ever had CodeineContins? It's very weird to have an opiate that usually only works once a day be stretched over 8-10 hours like that, and I would throw over it Empracets 60's, so I would have around 320mg of codeine in me during the day and another CContin 150 at bed time, which managed to still work, I don't know how they do that.

 

[MississaugaMan]

Tyvm for feelin fir me brother, but I've been good for about a year after that initial 6 month wait.

The 480 hydromorph contin 30mgs i get scribed monthly are more than enough to kill my pain down to a dull roar (id say 2.5/10 on the scale tbh) and save about 240 of them in case i should ever run into a doctor retirement situation until i would find another pain clinic. By saving hakf of my script each month, i have put nearly 2000 30mg hydromorphs into safe storage

I hear you... i didnt think YOU faked anything ofc, bc i did read that your doc retired and left u up shit's creek without any kind of referral. THAT should be a criminal offense even more than a pain patient possessing a substance illegally as far as I am concerned.

My pain doc is AMAZING though. He has offered to add BT meds bc he thinks i should be able to live with even less paon than the dull roar i currently experience with all the hydromorphone im currently on. Ive thanked him but declined for the last three months just to FURTHER my reputation as someone who is in no way a drug seeker or looking to get high, but next week when i go in for my 12 marcaine shots in the spine, Im going to revisit the conversation.

He has talked about adding an IM dose of demerol that I could prep myself twice a day if needed under dire circumstances, and after doing some research on the recreational properties of demerol, I may just take him up on it.

I've NEVER IVed and don't plan to, but jabbing myself in the thigh a couple times if it means sleeping better or maybe even catching the occasional nod/euphoria lol

Its amazing how when your body really NEEDS the meds to control pain how little euphoria or other pleasurable effects you feel (aside from the pleasure of being able to live a normal, functioning existence )

I have to say, I much prefer hydromorph to fentanyl (duragesic patches) even though you didnt have to worry about dosing for 3 days on those which was nice except for when one would wash off in the jacuzzi and you didnt know until the crippling pain returned unexpectedly.

Lets hope this cone snail non-narcotic stuff eventually becomes available in an easier form than intrathecally, bc i aint gettin no Perma pump hooked to my spinal column.

Peace brother
MM

 

[madog69]

I'm in the durham region in Ontario I take onyneos.they work for me the problem is you have to pay out of pocket for them.I'm on ODSP and they don't cover them..pretty sad that the goverment is screwing over pain patients and disabled people..its discusting

 

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