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The only way I see Tren E being viable is if you combine it with Tren Ace. Basically run 50mg Tren Ace ED and 200mg-400mg of Tren E weekly but even then your fucking yourself out of the true nature of Trenbolone.

Honestly all you need to get great results from Trenbolone as a first time user is 50mg ED. That means a 10ml vial dosed at 100mg per milliliter will last you 40 days. Not to dick size but at $45 a vial that isn't much.

You can make that 50mg dose all the more potent by adding in Masteron Propionate at 50mg ED.
 
The only way I see Tren E being viable is if you combine it with Tren Ace. Basically run 50mg Tren Ace ED and 200mg-400mg of Tren E weekly but even then your fucking yourself out of the true nature of Trenbolone.

Honestly all you need to get great results from Trenbolone as a first time user is 50mg ED. That means a 10ml vial dosed at 100mg per milliliter will last you 40 days. Not to dick size but at $45 a vial that isn't much.

You can make that 50mg dose all the more potent by adding in Masteron Propionate at 50mg ED.

I'd second that..!!
 
The only way I see Tren E being viable is if you combine it with Tren Ace. Basically run 50mg Tren Ace ED and 200mg-400mg of Tren E weekly but even then your fucking yourself out of the true nature of Trenbolone.

Honestly all you need to get great results from Trenbolone as a first time user is 50mg ED. That means a 10ml vial dosed at 100mg per milliliter will last you 40 days. Not to dick size but at $45 a vial that isn't much.

You can make that 50mg dose all the more potent by adding in Masteron Propionate at 50mg ED.


I triple that

Even 75mg EOD will give you a hell of a kick. Mast & tren are a match made in heaven


But, in my case what I'm thinking with the tren e that I ran compared to the ace. From what I seen & suspect is that my tren e was very overdosed. It was home brew and I'm thinking the guy who made it thought it would be cool just to load the shit out of it.


Yet, ace is still my choice - Just in case if sides kick to hard you will be off the ace way faster than you would be off the tren e
 
I use tren e at a low dose to keep the fat off while bulking. I've used tren ace before and made a thread about it.

At 400mg EW of Tren E, I get shortness of breath from walking up the stairs, and was panting like a marathon runner at the gym today.
However, I was also strong as fuck and lifting new weight with ease that I normally have a bit of a pain working up to. It took me weeks of running tren ace close to a gram to get shortness of breath. Other factors to consider are that my test is now drastically higher than my tren. This may be making a difference.
 
Honestly all you need to get great results from Trenbolone as a first time user is 50mg ED. That means a 10ml vial dosed at 100mg per milliliter will last you 40 days. Not to dick size but at $45 a vial that isn't much.

10ml = 1000mg
1ml = 100mg
0.5ml = 50mg

50mg x 20 days = 1000mg or 10ml... You mean 90 bucks for 40 days then Guido? Lol...

The tren e I can get is 30 a vial @ 200mg.so if I want to run it at 400mg per week vs 400mg per week of ace I need to inject 2ml per week which lasts 5 weeks or 35 days.
The tren ace dosed at this (which I assume would be the same price) will last me 17.5 days.
Tren e will literally last twice as long, much, much more cost effective.

Somebody correct my math if I am wrong
 
Yeah your math is correct but yeah I think everybodys came to the conclusion that:

Ace is the shit

E is fucked up

So what about Hexa then ??? (approved for human use from what I read)
 
A 10ml vial at 50mg ED lasts 20 days Nolys lol :)

So every 2 week payment I can buy myself one :)

Ace and E are the same price, same with Test E and Prop, just the way it is, but with Tren it's worth spending the money,

I'm still curious about Hexa ?

And for the record I got sleep paralysis last night a took a panic attack and it was scary as fuck, defoe the Tren and also woke up absolutely stuck to my bed with sweat

Gna get myself some Prochem T400 for blasting and cruising though if I stay on Tren 1ml per week of this is all that will be required.. period/
120mg Test Enanthate
120mg Test Cypionate
160mg Test Decanoate.
 
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Srsly I haven't seen shit on tren hex


But, it's true it is humane grade supposedly


Seems hella expensive though
 
Tri tren normally contains ace Enan and hex.

Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate (AKA Parabolan)
Chemical Name: 17beta-Hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one
Molecular Weight: 410.55 g/mol
Formula: C26H34O4
Original Manufacturer: Negma Laboratories
Half Life: 14 days
Detection Time: 4 – 5 months
Anabolic Rating: 500
Androgenic Rating: 500



Overview and History of Parabolan

Parabolan is the brand name and trade name for the anabolic steroid Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate, commonly and informally abbreviated as Tren Hex or Trenbolone Hex. It is a longer acting esterified variant of the anabolic steroid Trenbolone, which is the most popular in the form of Trenbolone Acetate (a much faster acting esterified variant of Trenbolone). The Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate ester extends Trenbolone’s half-life to the extent of approximately 14 days rather than 3 days, which is the half-life of Trenbolone Acetate. Trenbolone in both formats saw very brief periods of use as an approved medical drug for human use, as Trenbolone Acetate was marketed for a brief time during the 1980s as Finajet and Finaject before being pulled from the market and disapproved for human use circa 1987. Parabolan was deemed more suitable for human use during its run on the prescription drug market due to its longer acting and slower releasing properties than Trenbolone Acetate, making it much more suitable and comfortable for clinical and medical use with less frequent injections required as a result. Trenbolone itself, no matter the ester attached to it, is known as the most powerful conventionally available anabolic steroid in use by athletes and bodybuilders today.

Trenbolone itself was first unveiled, tested, and published in 1967 by Roussel-UCLAF[1]. At this time, Trenbolone Acetate was unveiled, which was the prototypical fast acting Trenbolone ester, as well as Trenbolone Undecanoate, which was the very first long acting Trenbolone ester. Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate was created in France as a French variant of a long-acting Trenbolone compound. The hexahydrobenzylcarbonate ester granted Trenbolone almost the exact same half-life as the decanoate ester, as they were very similar. Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate was then picked up by Negma Laboratories in France, which then marketed Tren Hex under the trade name Parabolan on the prescription drug market. It was also sold under the name of Hexabolan, which was lesser known at the time. Trenbolone in the form of Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate (sold as Parabolan) was the only variant of Trenbolone that was officially manufactured and approved for human use. Although Trenbolone Acetate was briefly marketed as Finajet and Finaject for human use, its run as a human grade medicine was very short and brief. Trenbolone Acetate was and is today only utilized as a veterinary drug.

During Parabolan’s reign as a human-approved medicine, it was utilized primarily in France as a drug for the treatment of muscle wasting, muscle wasting diseases, malnutrition, and as a drug to treat various forms of osteoporosis. Because of the extremely strong androgenic nature of Parabolan (approximately 5 times the androgenic strength of Testosterone), there were issues administering it to children (specifically, female children). Its use in other traditionally androgen-sensitive patient types (such as the elderly and adult females) was not as troublesome. Parabolan was very successful on the French prescription drug market for a long while, but in 1997 it was intentionally discontinued by Negma. This was primarily due to the issue of increased anti-steroid hysteria and sentiment during the late 1980s and early 1990s that prompted many pharmaceutical companies to completely discontinue and eliminate the production of various anabolic steroids (especially those anabolic steroids that were utilized more by athletes than for medical purposes. Unfortunately, Parabolan was one of the anabolic steroids that had succumbed to this fate. Fortunately, however, an extremely small amount of pharmaceutical Parabolan is still manufactured today (though not in France), and it is an extremely rare product to the point where it might not even be considered worth going through the hassle to obtain it, as counterfeit Parabolan is likely in circulation in greater numbers than legitimate pharmaceutical grade Parabolan.

Trenbolone in general is widely regarded as being currently unapproved for human use by the medical establishment. However, the good news is that it is under current investigation in clinical studies as a more selective anabolic steroid than others, giving it the potential for medical application[2]. This could be a very strong indication that Trenbolone might soon experience re-entry into the human prescription drug market and re-approval for human use, but it is unknown how long it might be before this happens.

Chemical Characteristics of Parabolan

Trenbolone itself is a synthetic derivative of Nandrolone, meaning it is a modification of Nandrolone. This also means that Trenbolone is classified as a 19-nor compound, meaning it lacks the 19th carbon that is typically held by Testosterone and all other anabolic steroids (except for Nandrolone). Both Nandrolone and Trenbolone do not possess this 19th carbon, and they are therefore classified as 19-nor compounds. This also results in Trenbolone and Nandrolone being categorized as Progestins, meaning they exhibit Progestogenic activity within the body, and will exhibit varying degrees of interaction with the Progestosterone receptor.

Trenbolone in particular possesses double bonds at carbons 9 and 11 due to the fact that the hydrogen atoms that previously occupied the free electrons on these carbons were removed. Therefore, double-bonds between those carbon atoms and their neighboring carbon atoms had to be established to fill in the void. These modifications create three distinct characteristics and abilities for Trenbolone:

1. A significantly larger affinity for the androgen receptor is created, resulting in Trenbolone being much more potent than its parent hormone Nandrolone[3]. Trenbolone possesses 5 times the anabolic muscle building strength than Testosterone, with Testosterone’s anabolic rating being 100 and Trenbolone’s anabolic rating being 500.
2. Trenbolone becomes completely resistant to aromatization (the conversion into Estrogen), as the aromatase enzyme (the enzyme responsible for aromatization) cannot recognize Trenbolone as an appropriate substrate for chemical reaction[4]. This is different from Nandrolone, which is merely more resistant to aromatization than Testosterone, rather than completely immune to it like Trenbolone is.
3. A very high resistance to metabolism in the body. These modifications allow Trenbolone to linger around in its active form longer than most other anabolic steroids, and this is also evident by the fact that the majority of Trenbolone excreted in the urine is in its original format rather than a greater amount being excreted as metabolites. This also owes to its greater anabolic effect.

Parabolan in particular is a modified variant of Trenbolone via the addition of a hexahydrobenzylcarbonate ester onto the 17-beta hydroxyl group on the steroid structure of Trenbolone. This results in a slower rate of release and a longer half-life of the compound, which is approximately 14 days. The body must work to first break off this ester bond before the hormone can be used by the body, and this is why a longer half-life is experienced. The addition of an ester to the hormone merely serves to augment the half-life of the hormone, and does not alter the pharmacological effects of Trenbolone in the body.

Properties of Parabolan

Parabolan is an extremely versatile anabolic steroid available to athletes and bodybuilders that can be literally utilized for any purpose desired. It is an extremely potent anabolic steroid that does not require high doses in order to elicit favorable performance or physique changes. It is 5 times the anabolic strength of Testosterone, making it an ideal choice for bulking, strength gaining, and/or lean mass addition. The added benefit of Parabolan is the inability for it to be aromatized into Estrogen, resulting in absolutely no water retention or bloating from Parabolan alone. The result is a complete lack of Estrogen related side effects, allowing the user to completely avoid the puffy and bloated look that heavy aromatizable androgens (such as Dianabol) will provide. The result is considerable and dramatic lean mass and strength gain with Parabolan when combined with an appropriate diet and training regimen.

Of course, Parabolan can also be easily utilized for the purpose of fat loss, cutting, and pre-contest. It is in fact the most highly sought after anabolic steroid by competitive bodybuilders, and is considered such an indispensable addition in a competitive bodybuilder’s cycle that it is commonly referred to as “the nectar of the Gods”. Trenbolone’s extremely strong nutrient partitioning effects can result in fairly rapid fat loss when combined with a clean caloric deficit and proper training. Parabolan’s highly androgenic nature also tends to bring out the hardness and vascularity of the muscles and physique, creating the “3D” look commonly aspired by bodybuilders (provided that body fat is low enough to see this).


[1] J. Mathieu, Proc.lntern. Symp. Drug Res. 1967, p 134. Chem.lnst. Can., Montreal, Canada.

[2] Tissue selectivity and potential clinical applications of Trenbolone (17beta-hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one): A potent anabolic steroid with reduced androgenic and estrogenic activity. Yarrow JF, McCoy SC, Borst SE. steroids. 2010 Jun;75(6):377-89. doi: 10.1016/j.steroids.2010.01.019. Epub 2010 Feb 4.

[3] Characterisation of the affinity of different anabolics and synthetic hormones to the human androgen receptor, human sex hormone binding globulin and to the bovine progestin receptor. Bauer, Meyer et al. Acta Pathol Microbiol Imunol Scand Suppl 108 (2000):838-46.

[4] Unique steroid congeners for receptor studies. Ojasoo, Raynaud. Cancer Research 38 (1978):4186-98.

I'm pretty sure the halve lives on this is wrong but it's some other general information...
 
Seen all that, just no real life experience from anyone


I got a local guy here running tri tren. Says it's the coolest shit ever. . . . But, I just can't see the big diff compared to just ace mg for mg
 
Tri tren is dosed like 2-300mg vs ace for roughly the same price. It's much more cost effective.
 
Hex is often faked and just tren e. Just get a vial of a and e and kickstart like a test/dbol or test e/prop kickstart.
 
I seen a few prices on the raws for hex and that shit is straight expensive. Would make sense on why it's faked
 
I seen a few prices on the raws for hex and that shit is straight expensive. Would make sense on why it's faked

Nobody makes Tren Hex (Parabolan) any more because Tren Ace is much more effective. The price of Tren Hex is bullshit considering you probably couldn't tell the difference between it and Tren E. The reason it's so expensive is the legendary status of Parabolan and it's short lived pharmacutical grade life. The price is simply reflective of the hype from then. Tren Ace blows it out of the water and the only thing better than Tren Ace is a blend of Tren Ace and Tren Base.

The point of Trenbolone is dramatic hard hitting results, near daily changes in physique. Tren Ace kicks in full force within one week. Tren E kicks in full force in about 4 weeks time. Tren E is useful for cruising on a low dose of it during the off season while running a blast with a focus on bulking or for a genuine cruise with some Testosterone to take a break and still maintain a decent look. I would honestly be wary of paying that price only because of how much Tren E costs from a UGL that is legendary in the bodybuilding community here in the US as well as how much it costs from the top UGL in Europe. It would be wise to run Tren Ace considering it's your first time but it's your call nolys. There are some things in bodybuilding where it's good to be cost effective but when it comes to Trenbolone, you really put a damper on mutating by going with Tren E to save some cash just to be able to run it longer. You would get better results with a short blast of Ace than you would a longer blast of Tren E.

Also sorry about my math earlier. Remind me not to do math early in the morning from now on. I can count molecules, calculate ester weights, and other complex shit but I can't do simple fucking division. What the shit lol.
 
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Nobody makes Tren Hex (Parabolan) any more because Tren Ace is much more effective. The price of Tren Hex is bullshit considering you probably couldn't tell the difference between it and Tren E. The reason it's so expensive is the legendary status of Parabolan and it's short lived pharmacutical grade life. The price is simply reflective of the hype from then. Tren Ace blows it out of the water and the only thing better than Tren Ace is a blend of Tren Ace and Tren Base.

The point of Trenbolone is dramatic hard hitting results, near daily changes in physique. Tren Ace kicks in full force within one week. Tren E kicks in full force in about 4 weeks time. Tren E is useful for cruising on a low dose of it during the off season while running a blast with a focus on bulking or for a genuine cruise with some Testosterone to take a break and still maintain a decent look. I would honestly be wary of paying that price only because of how much Tren E costs from a UGL that is legendary in the bodybuilding community here in the US as well as how much it costs from the top UGL in Europe. It would be wise to run Tren Ace considering it's your first time but it's your call nolys. There are some things in bodybuilding where it's good to be cost effective but when it comes to Trenbolone, you really put a damper on mutating by going with Tren E to save some cash just to be able to run it longer. You would get better results with a short blast of Ace than you would a longer blast of Tren E.

Also sorry about my math earlier. Remind me not to do math early in the morning from now on. I can count molecules, calculate ester weights, and other complex shit but I can't do simple fucking division. What the shit lol.

Fair enough Guido I see where your coming from here, I'm not as much bothered about the sides as I am about how the dramatic effects of tren are, the main reason I'm looking to try it is simply the mutations it causes as you said.

Would you even reccomend maybe a 4 week ace kick at 300mg bumped to 400mg with tren e, so that the dose is just carried on from the ace with nobuild up ect.
Don't forget I never used this compound which is why I ask.

I'm not worried about sides lol.

Edit - what I'm trying to say is will the effects of the tren e be the same as the ace once they have fully kicked into effect? I may grab 2 vials of tren ace and a few vials of tren e to keep it going.
 
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I was worried about sides for too long and I'm day 4 in on Ace,

I already have anxiety and sleep problems, known to be an angry person bla bla bla and I'm fine

I did get night terrors and some sweaty sheets and a bit of anger.... big deal ??

The sides are nothing that can't be controlled I'll finish my 20 days of 50mg ED and I may jump up to 100mg, not sure yet, the whole Tren sides thing aint as big a deal as people make it out to be if anybody was gna get the sides really bad it woulda been me lol
 
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