johnboy
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liquidocean
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Dakeva, it only took me 10 minutes to throw this together
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Johnboy, good idea, thanks for all your contributions. You def. understand.
MiNiMoWs, would you sit upon my throne?
Thinking about listing ways of ingesting MDMA, i.e. swallowing whole, chewing, parachuting, snorting, plugging, sublingual.
Anybody have good links for neurotransmitters and their functions?
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Johnboy, good idea, thanks for all your contributions. You def. understand.
MiNiMoWs, would you sit upon my throne?
Thinking about listing ways of ingesting MDMA, i.e. swallowing whole, chewing, parachuting, snorting, plugging, sublingual.
Anybody have good links for neurotransmitters and their functions?
[This message has been edited by liquidocean (edited 24 May 2000).]
neuro toxic?
Brain damage, temporary or permanent?
Which one matters? Perm damage of any cns tissue would show long term as well as short term difinative changes on pet scans, or newer tech active brain scans. Do any of these studies show definatively that any other the recreationally used amphetamines in reasonable dosages,cause permanent impairment of cognitive or cns function?
NO!
Is Alexander Shulgin , the renowned drug expert, chemist and author damaged by using Mda and a few hundred other compounds used every week for the last 40 years?
NO!
Does everyone think Mda or it's chemical cousins are evil, brain damaging or worse?
YES
Does this mean that propoganda always wins out with the masses over truth and science?
YES
Why? Because 90% of the public are essentially un educated beyond an eight grade edu....
STOP the lies.... stop parroting the NIDA or FDA views.... get informed, just don't expect the non drug abusing experts to promote something immoral, illegal or politically in correct during these times that make the witch hunts look reasonable!
(D)eath before (T)yranny
Brain damage, temporary or permanent?
Which one matters? Perm damage of any cns tissue would show long term as well as short term difinative changes on pet scans, or newer tech active brain scans. Do any of these studies show definatively that any other the recreationally used amphetamines in reasonable dosages,cause permanent impairment of cognitive or cns function?
NO!
Is Alexander Shulgin , the renowned drug expert, chemist and author damaged by using Mda and a few hundred other compounds used every week for the last 40 years?
NO!
Does everyone think Mda or it's chemical cousins are evil, brain damaging or worse?
YES
Does this mean that propoganda always wins out with the masses over truth and science?
YES
Why? Because 90% of the public are essentially un educated beyond an eight grade edu....
STOP the lies.... stop parroting the NIDA or FDA views.... get informed, just don't expect the non drug abusing experts to promote something immoral, illegal or politically in correct during these times that make the witch hunts look reasonable!
(D)eath before (T)yranny
johnboy
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before anyone says yes remember that this is the guy behind "nifty wicked"
no offence mate but personally i wouldnt want you taking this as well. a lot of people are putting a lot of work into this and they are doing for the greater good of the bluelight community, not for you...
no offence mate but personally i wouldnt want you taking this as well. a lot of people are putting a lot of work into this and they are doing for the greater good of the bluelight community, not for you...
liquidocean
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people, you forgot about flipping MDMA + N2O ! How could you? Someone please add to the chemistry terms, how does mdma work, neurotoxicity, neurotransmitters sections.
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much thanks, johnboy, for all your contributions, and for jumping in on this with me and seeing the value in having something like this.
when i get my butt in gear, i'm going to make another wave of changes, then toss it to Jase and let him use it or not
once again, i do not claim to be a medical expert, so anyone please feel free to dispute the points i have brought up with some counterpoints and evidence.
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before you label me as a propogandist, kick down some information, not these half-baked rants/. for a doctor you seem to be quite a quack.
are you claiming MDMA and MDA have no neurotoxic effects at any dosage? no synaptic damage?
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much thanks, johnboy, for all your contributions, and for jumping in on this with me and seeing the value in having something like this.
when i get my butt in gear, i'm going to make another wave of changes, then toss it to Jase and let him use it or not
once again, i do not claim to be a medical expert, so anyone please feel free to dispute the points i have brought up with some counterpoints and evidence.
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dr. tom, what's with the crusading tone of yours? what are you trying to imply here? I have brought neurotoxicity up in a harm reductive context, not exactly parroting the NIDA or FDA views, if you'll recall, they support abstainance and prohibition.
before you label me as a propogandist, kick down some information, not these half-baked rants/. for a doctor you seem to be quite a quack.
are you claiming MDMA and MDA have no neurotoxic effects at any dosage? no synaptic damage?
Total thumbs up on the work here- go you (all)!
Once this gets completed, anyone have any thoughts of having it automaticly attatched the the email that gets sent to new users when they get their password sent to them? Might save some bandwidth for BL: any references to it would mean less DLing from BL as it would already be on our hard drives. (and the paranoid types could always delete it.)
-hatboi
d=)
Once this gets completed, anyone have any thoughts of having it automaticly attatched the the email that gets sent to new users when they get their password sent to them? Might save some bandwidth for BL: any references to it would mean less DLing from BL as it would already be on our hard drives. (and the paranoid types could always delete it.)
-hatboi
d=)
day_for_night
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i agree this should be kept perma-bumped. and i am also going to add something too. there hasn't been anything yet on preloading so i thought i would remedy that. go to this site http://p-raves.tbp.mb.ca/art/scroumf-e.htm as it is seriously the *best* site i have found on this topic
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~*day_for_night*~
"Never hit a man with glasses. Hit him with a baseball bat."
just kidding!!! PLURR
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~*day_for_night*~
"Never hit a man with glasses. Hit him with a baseball bat."
just kidding!!! PLURR
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liquidocean
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thanks jb
you don't have to make stuff up, just research it and paste it, erowid and lycaeum have a ton of reading material
yes, please contribute, i started the energy but we all need to pitch in to keep it going, growing and evolving
this is our faq, people will read it and pick up new things, it may mean the difference between a good night and a catastrophic one, life and death....
ok, back to partying
you don't have to make stuff up, just research it and paste it, erowid and lycaeum have a ton of reading material
yes, please contribute, i started the energy but we all need to pitch in to keep it going, growing and evolving
this is our faq, people will read it and pick up new things, it may mean the difference between a good night and a catastrophic one, life and death....
ok, back to partying
Just a couple of things. Both a bit trivial sorry for that
I read somewhere that E + Ketamine is called 'kittyflipping'
Also Rolling - to be feeling the effects of ecstasy, sometimes in rolling waves
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this is also be due to the eyes rolling back effect that is experianced
Also in the same section (raving terms) there could be an entry for 'scattered' - ie the feeling you get after a comedown.. you are ok but everything is a bit 'scattered' refering to general tiredness, a bit of memory loss and general dislocation.
"I'd love to come around and help with your univeristy assignment but I'm a bit scattered at the moment"
Cheers,
Soma.
I read somewhere that E + Ketamine is called 'kittyflipping'
Also Rolling - to be feeling the effects of ecstasy, sometimes in rolling waves
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this is also be due to the eyes rolling back effect that is experianced
Also in the same section (raving terms) there could be an entry for 'scattered' - ie the feeling you get after a comedown.. you are ok but everything is a bit 'scattered' refering to general tiredness, a bit of memory loss and general dislocation.
"I'd love to come around and help with your univeristy assignment but I'm a bit scattered at the moment"
Cheers,
Soma.