So I got some of the oil and it's pretty disgusting and did not feel anything like MDMA or anything much at all really. I assume that's because it lowered your kratom tolerance to where the Kratom felt like MDMA
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How much of a well branded, we'll review, 3-7x oil should I use? The bottle says 1-2 teaspoons daily.
I'll keep taking it for the health benefits, and because the effects might build up over time, but I didn't really read anything about it improving mood online, just helping with numerous health conditions like blood pressure and weight loss. Dunno if this thread title is a little bit misleading, but time will tell I suppose.
I wasn't on kratom at the time of posting this thread or the first time I tried the BSO. It does take hours before you'll even really feel anything. When it does interact with kratom, it just makes the kratom extremely sedating to the point of actually being overwhelming at times, so I actually don't use it all that often like the night before a dose lol. When 3g lasted all day and felt like 10g, I realized it was just too much. I just wanted the kratom to wear off but it wouldn't. 3g was generally my average dose at the time and would get me pretty good so I already had a lowish tolerance, but this was ridiculous. I can't tell if it had a potentiation or if it just reduced my tolerance in general, but given it extended the effects that severely, probably potentiation.
I guess the only reason I could've compared it to MDMA at that point is because it tends to help me feel normal in a way nothing else can. I hadn't tried MDMA at that point which is why I said I only imagined that's how it felt. It was just such an incredible feeling to feel "normal" that I reacted in an intense way. I did try MDMA a month and a half later and do think there are similarities but only because of myself as an individual. MDMA helped free me of various bad effects of my own mental illness and was naturally like 100 times more intense than the BSO alone, but the fact that the BSO was able to make me feel that good is really telling.
So saying, this won't affect everyone the same way. For some people it might not do anything at all. For people suffering from mental illness, it can certainly help a lot, but tolerance does build. I recommended it to a friend awhile back and he also noted feeling quite elated compared to normal. I went into it my first time with no expectation, just thought it would help lower my tolerance. If you're going to use it to lower a kratom tolerance it's best done like 6-8 hours beforehand, because the active metabolites take awhile to fully break down and stay active for about 12 hours. Usually like 4 hours after I'd take it I'd start to feel more relaxed, though.
I busted out my pure thymoquinone powder last night for the first time in awhile, it definitely chilled me out quite a bit. Was feeling a lot less anxiety than usual. The oil contains some other stuff though as far as I'm aware and I'd have to try the actual oil again. It also may have lost potency from it getting so cold in my kitchen.
I can't say what brands might be better or worse than others, I just know the very first time when I took the Spring Valley brand from Walmart my first time, I couldn't believe how focused and good I felt. The focus was far better than any ADHD meds (which I despise). But yeah, mileage may vary. You can find a lot of posts online, especially Reddit about how much this plant has helped some, but it won't just help everyone. I re-iterate that if you suffer from depression, anxiety, etc. that it would be most prominent. This isn't something that will get you high or buzzed and shouldn't be treated as such. It's definitely great for opioid withdrawal though.