Baking Soda + Amphetamine (Adderall/Dexedrine)

[MMMMKAY?!]

I was sure there would already be a thread on this but I used the search engine and couldn't find one...
anyway I was curious about anyone's expierence with using baking soda to "boost" the effects of amphetamine.
I take 40mg of adderall a day.
I take 30mg xr morning and 10mg xr noon, but today i decided to spread them out because the crash was unbearable yesterday. This morning I took aprox. 5-8 mg out of the 30mg and put it in a capsule. I popped the morning dose of aprox. 25mg and didnt feel too much. Then around noon I swallowed a full spoon of baking soda. I waited till about 1:25 and popped the aprox. 5-8mg. I was flying high, I couldn't stop talking, I was very social and felt intense euphoria- the only negative was that my stomach started to hurt after a while. About 4:30 I still felt like I was peaking. I really didn't intend to get "high" neccesarily, but I felt very high. I ate another spoonful at around 4:35 pm and drank some muslce milk for protein at stuff. then i chewed the last 10mg xr capsule. Its not 9:15pm and i still feel extremely energetic and euphoric. I can't stop talking and I'm really starting to believe that this just cant be placebo. I can't stop pulling my hair. It feels so good lol. What do you guys think? Has anyone else had expierences like this?

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

Baking soda potentiates amphetamines, it really increases the duration IME. Plus its only been 5 hours since you took the last dose. Make sure you stay hydrated and you'll be good.

 

[MrSpeedyG]

Thinking of trying this myself tommorow so I'll report how it goes.

How do you usually feel on your usual dose of amp? Is it for ADHD?

 

[MMMMKAY?!]

Yes its for ADHD.
Mostly when I take it in the morning, I feel that euphoric social feeling for about an hour to an hour and a half tops (maybe because I have a tolerance?) and then I start to feel really intense, like I can't help but focus on every little thing around me, anxious and then around noon I start to come down and I take the 10mg dose and it doesn't get me back up to that peak though, it pretty much just gets rid of the come down for an hour or two more.
But today when I did the baking soda, I felt the initial euphoria for a surprisingly long time and am just now (1:am) starting to come down. Even though I took the last one at 4 30, it still lasted this long which makes me think the baking soda did do something.

P.S. @ MrSpeedyG
If you do decide to try it tomorrow please share your expierence :]

 

[MrSpeedyG]

I think the baking soda will have more of an affect if your GI is more acidic that usual at the time of taking it. I see varying reports on the internet so I guess its one of those things that might help some or might not, but more often than not people are saying it didn't really enhance the effect itself just extended the duration of effects, which is helpful in itself!

Just a suggestion on the side, me personally I would lower your adderal dosage slightly to the point where it isn't providing any real recreational benefeits like the euphoria and chatter mouth but provides full coverage of your ADHD symptoms. A lot of people gauge whether their Adderall is treating their ADHD by how euphoric and motviated they feel which is wrong and ultimately leads on to higher doses and the addiction/dependency. Sooner or later the dose you are on won't provide anything recreational but it will still treat the ADHD.

Maybe try 15-20mg XR initally with baking soda, followed by 10mg xr when it starts wearing off. You might not feel anything, but try and continue on through your day without dwelling on whether or not you are feeling anything rather stop occasionally and check to see if your symptoms are gone.

I never really get anything in terms of euphoria at all with my dose I am on, hell 30mg at once doesn't provide anything recreational. BUT, it does treat my ADHD and allow me to be in control of my mind and focus.

Sorry for the rant dude, you might want to be chasing that euphoria all the time and want it now, but think long-term when your on 60mg twice a day just to treat the ADHD and feel nothing. I like getting high too don't think of me as a panzy but at the end of the day its about harm reduction.

 

[bronson]

^ Very well said.

 

[MMMMKAY?!]

Just a suggestion on the side, me personally I would lower your adderal dosage slightly to the point where it isn't providing any real recreational benefeits like the euphoria and chatter mouth but provides full coverage of your ADHD symptoms. A lot of people gauge whether their Adderall is treating their ADHD by how euphoric and motviated they feel which is wrong and ultimately leads on to higher doses and the addiction/dependency. Sooner or later the dose you are on won't provide anything recreational but it will still treat the ADHD.

Maybe try 15-20mg XR initally with baking soda, followed by 10mg xr when it starts wearing off. You might not feel anything, but try and continue on through your day without dwelling on whether or not you are feeling anything rather stop occasionally and check to see if your symptoms are gone.

I never really get anything in terms of euphoria at all with my dose I am on, hell 30mg at once doesn't provide anything recreational. BUT, it does treat my ADHD and allow me to be in control of my mind and focus.

Sorry for the rant dude, you might want to be chasing that euphoria all the time and want it now, but think long-term when your on 60mg twice a day just to treat the ADHD and feel nothing. I like getting high too don't think of me as a panzy but at the end of the day its about harm reduction.

No this is true :]]. Expecially when you said "alot of people guage whether they're adderall is working by how euphoric and motivated they feel which is wrong" appreciate the honesty.

to be honest though man, like the most I could truly see myself doing is just keep spacing it out through the day ://. If it was dexedrine it wouldn't really be a problem, it's just that the adderall crash is so unpleasant to me, I cant really see myself going through it without redosing. I will start expierementing today though and hopefully ill be able to taper down a little.

I think the baking soda will have more of an affect if your GI is more acidic that usual

this is probally a really retarted question but what is the GI?

 

[blazR]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_gastrointestinal_tract ^

 

[MMMMKAY?!]

Ok ive been having a pretty intense expierence today. I woke up at around 9:30 ingested a spoonful of baking soda about thirty minutes later I took the thirty mg and am still peaking! its 3:00pm. I know it cant be a placebo. It does help with my ADHD. It feels alot more stable of an effect than if I were to have just popped it without baking soda. Its been lasting for a while now. I probally wont need my ten mg.

The only problem Im really having-and this happens when I take it w/o baking soda too, it just doesnt last this long-is that I find it very awkward to interact with other people socially.

 

[MrSpeedyG]

You should find that a dose that doesn't provide any euphoria/strong motivation but treats your ADHD symptoms shouldn't cause you to have much of a crash anyway. Keep in mind what you eat and drink throughout the day has a bigger effect on the crash than you think, try going a day with no food and see how you feel around the time you typically crash. Have you considered asking your doctor for dexedrine instead? Another to note is I have come accross reports of people saying they prefer the IR over the XR and vice versa in terms of overal effect and the crash it has.

The only problem Im really having-and this happens when I take it w/o baking soda too, it just doesnt last this long-is that I find it very awkward to interact with other people socially.

Not sure what you mean here? You mean to say when the Adderall is taking effect that it makes you feel awkward to socialise?

 

[MMMMKAY?!]

I actually just got put back on dexedrine yesterday. But I had a kinda weird meeting with my doctor though, I suggested being on a 15 mg spansule in the morning and a 15 mg IR at noon and it was kinda strange-he insisted that I be on 60mg a day!. He said "well as long as we ca get you to sleep, I wat your adhd tooken care of ALL DAY". I am now o a 30mg spasule in the morning 1 and a half 10mgs IR at noon and 1 and a half 10mgs IR. (He also put me on two 1mg guafacies a day) I can't help but feel uncomfortable though that he insisted so much dexedrie. In the past he always wanted me off a lot of my meds (primarily benzos). Isn't 60mg a day a unusually high dose =/?

And when I said addy makes it hard for me to socialize, I just meant that like when I'm around people, or I crowds I feel very anxious and weird when I communicate. It tends to make me look so deep into things, and I can see it causes me to appear "itense" if that makes sense. Though I must say, while I do preffer dexedrine because of the more stable feeling, adderall helped me do some really productive things like cleaning, writing ad school work related stuff.

 

[mangletron]

I find 20mg is the perfect amount to subtly address my attention issues. Takes 60-80 before I start to sweat and feel jittery/fiendishly motivated. I don't like that.

In fact I like it better with none at all but I have a real issue keeping my shit in a heap. Definitely maintain a good food/water intake

 

[MMMMKAY?!]

I find 20mg is the perfect amount to subtly address my attention issues. Takes 60-80 before I start to sweat and feel jittery/fiendishly motivated. I don't like that.

In fact I like it better with none at all but I have a real issue keeping my shit in a heap. Definitely maintain a good food/water intake

Thanks for your input and advice [:

 

[xx001]

Anything that raises the pH in your digestive system will improve the absorption of amphetamine and prolong its effects. Antacid tablets have the exact same effect. If you are going to use the baking soda, you will probably want to take a lower dose. Euphoric doses aren't ideal for treating ADHD. At some point, bigger doses make for less effective treatment.

 

[ddeakle]

Hi Guys it's been a while since I posted but anyhow I recently got 20 adderall xr 30 mg from a friend(yes the ones with the beeds) well I got home the day before yesterday from his house around 3 and ate 4 30 mg pills not crushed just like they came out of the bottle I was wired till about 8am yesterday morning. Don't really remember how I felt other than slight tingles all over body and extreme focus on the picture I drew for about 6 he straight then yesterday at 8 I felt the worst part of the crash coming so quickly to avoid it I crushed all the beads from one pill n blew 15mg in each nostril and then ate one whole as well to keep me awake during the day.( I'm a very experienced addy user I used to get a script every month until I moved I would "share" most of them and go for about a 5 day binge so I'm not new to the crash withdrawals or any of the feelings) I had been reading about xr on line and learned about baking soda potentiateing it by multiple hours n decided I'd try it later. At ten o'clock yesterday I decided to crush my remaining pills to act like IR and so I could snort more because everything I've read says IRs hit harder which makes sense just a while shorter (approx 4-5 hrs) well by then it was 1030 so I decided to take a tablespoon of baking soda mixed with a shot of water. Waited an hr and while I was crushed the beads as much as I could. I usually measure everything but last night I knew I didn't have too many to harm myself so I blew about an inch of a straw filled with the powder the ate about the same amount plus about a half of the pile extra added on. Well I'm to my questions now... Number one why is it feeling like I'm beginning to come down (already peaked about an hr and a half ago which the peak only lasted maybe 45 min then I could slightly notice it was slowly fading. it was and still is surprising to me because everything o have read says the baking soda makes it stronger and multiple hrs longer.) today is Wednesday it's about 3:20 am the last time I woke up was Monday morning at 6 am so almost 48 hrs... I wanted to know if anyone could help explain why it's going away so fast. Also what should I do to bring back the great feelings from earlier I have about 3 crushed 30mg xr left should I snort plug or eat them or should I wait it out I'm starting to feel the body aches n shit n seeing hallucinations I don't usually see until atleast half way through day 3 usually not until day 4. Very sudtle mainly in peripherals but occasionally something swooshes by in my field of view. Also if I stare at the wood floor it kinda breathes I gues u can call it that walls are def breathing now. Nothing I haven't seen befor I just want to know basically whAt do I need to do in order to get that adderall rush I haven't seen in a while. Like I said I take about 20 a month usually within 5 days.I have acces to more if that's the only way I'm kinda bummed out th baking soda had no effect I was excited. Well iPhone keys are yellow orange now haha thanks u guys by the way I have mild add but not enough to be worth trying to treat. I'm 18 69.5 inches tall an 178 lbs if that's needed. Yea I do know the physical and mental strain on my body and mind but honestly It docent bother me I see it as my few sleepless nights I look forward to evey month thanks again in advance

 

[ddeakle]

HeyY'all I'm back the hallucinations come in waves now approx 5 min at the time the tingling vibration feeling does the Same.... Also I feel like bugs r crawling all over me like a bad acid trip bit it's neither pleasant or unpleasant the're jus kinda there... When there r no feelings or visuals I don't feel sober or high its a strange feeling tbh idt I have felt it before I'm contemplating taking 2 more 30's bit can't decide if I want to or not any input?

 

[xx001]

Number one why is it feeling like I'm beginning to come down

Because you are binging on amphetamine. The high only lasts so long before you feel like shit.

Also what should I do to bring back the great feelings from earlier

Yous should stop abusing Adderall until you can get a handle on your use. You're obviously headed in the wrong direction.

I have about 3 crushed 30mg xr left should I snort plug or eat them or should I wait it out I'm starting to feel the body aches n shit n seeing hallucinations

You should flush them down the toilet. You are experiencing amphetamine psychosis. Do you not see the problem with this?

HeyY'all I'm back the hallucinations come in waves now approx 5 min at the time the tingling vibration feeling does the Same.... Also I feel like bugs r crawling all over me like a bad acid trip bit it's neither pleasant or unpleasant the're jus kinda there... When there r no feelings or visuals I don't feel sober or high its a strange feeling tbh idt I have felt it before I'm contemplating taking 2 more 30's bit can't decide if I want to or not any input?

You can't be serious...

 

[LOGan1314]

^^LOL!!!! You actually read that great wall of text?!

 

[ddeakle]

Because you are binging on amphetamine. The high only lasts so long before you feel like shit.


Yous should stop abusing Adderall until you can get a handle on your use. You're obviously headed in the wrong direction.



You should flush them down the toilet. You are experiencing amphetamine psychosis. Do you not see the problem with this?








You can't be serious...

i never ended up getting online untill today im starting to belive u tho and was wondering if you could give me your opinion i have been slightly hallucinating alld day and night and yesterday. never before has this happend to me and i do it once a month almost the same amounts if not more the only difference is the baking soda which i used to make my dose at 10 stronger again i swallowed approx 200 mg today and snorted approx 150 (not taking entire dose at once over the course of the day every couple of hrs or so ) since monday at 3 i have taken 20 30mg xr all the xr were ground up to dust in order to snort or eat like they were instant relese. the hallucinations have not been bad nor scarry but far to vivid ime previously i greatly appreciate u telling me and all i need to ask is will it go away if not its fine but the most importan is could it cause a good deal of swelling in arms and legs and numbness that seems to apear and disapear or am i imagining it? thank you very much

 

[ddeakle]

also i already knew and still know the crash and withdraws will be like the 8th lv of hell its my own fault for being ignorant and i know it wont happen again ive had a blast these 3 days but its not worth it. i watched walls morph and melt and saw cool colors fly around and shit like that off and on all day along with "invisible bugs" crawling on me but im used to that from actual hallucinogens. theere have been slight dissociation effects as well not very strong but noticable thank u again i know that from now on i need to take more care and slow down ALOT.i just want to ride out the rest opf the trip and eat a meal and sleep i greatly appreciate any simialar experiances or advice thank you all again