What an incredible fact that isIt is 100% a fact humans were most likely eating magic mushrooms for over 25000 years.
What an incredible fact that isIt is 100% a fact humans were most likely eating magic mushrooms for over 25000 years.
I love all 3 of those books. I remember waiting 10 years for the Gnosis book after the first book. The one with psychedelics. The poetry part is great. As an example in saying cannabis does not make a person better, it just magnifies a person and the statement was Larceny giggles as it steals.Dale Pendell's "Pharmako/poeia" and "Pharmako/gnosis" cover a LOT of ground if you're interested in the topic. Great books, too. It seems like deliriants were widely used wherever they were found, although never uncontroversially, and almost always in low doses combined with alcohol and other drugs as an admixture.
So it sounds acceptable that these ancient people would have been so dedicated to tripping that they would eat dreadful shit like datura and ergot etc?
Might not be as common as it sounds tho - it wasn't like some kind of permanent burning man festival.
Maria Sabina was really the only person in the area actually taking the mushrooms regularly - most people in the village never touched them unless they were desperately ill and wanted a diagnosis from "the mushroom". It wasn't "dude let's trip balls!"
Wait, where did you learn this about 25i-nbome?
This is the dissertation of the chemist Ralf Heim, who discovered or made 25i. If you cannot read German, translate it.
Does the actor known as the QANON SHAMAN trip?Well, it was not just mesoamérica. Entheogen use was/is common in most of the continent. Ayahuasca use in the Amazon jungle is apparently a very ancient practice with unknown origins predating the Inca empire.
San Pedro use was also very extended in indigenous cultures in all the andean region.
In Chile, archeological evidence of ritual Yopo use dating back to the V century has been found.
I guess wherever psychoactive plant grow, you can find an ancient culture making use of them.
This, however, is absolutely true too. At least in southamerica, but I would asume everywhere else, entheogen usage was limited to shamanistic practices or treated as medicine. Indigenous people didnt have a consumer culture.
Sure, why not? I mean they were, biologically, the same as us. So why wouldn't they have a curiosity in altered consciousness or psychoactive drugs?
Plains Indians like the Mandan and Sioux would simply torture themselves into altered states of consciousness, no drugs required...achieving an altered state of consciousness is a very common practice in anthropology, and drugs were merely one way to achieve that.
I'm not convinced that soma was psychedelic. It may have been, but I think a compelling case can also be made for it being the stimulant plant ephedra. There seems to be consensus that the Eleusinian mystery cult used a psychedelic sacrament, and possibly the Dionysean mystery cult. Some chemoarcheological evidence supports the use of ergot in that context. [See "The Immortality Key" by Brian Muraresku.] Michael A. Rinella has also written on this in his "Pharmakon: Plato, Drug Culture, and Identity in Ancient Athens."
Dale Pendell's "Pharmako/poeia" and "Pharmako/gnosis" cover a LOT of ground if you're interested in the topic. Great books, too. It seems like deliriants were widely used wherever they were found, although never uncontroversially, and almost always in low doses combined with alcohol and other drugs as an admixture.
There's some question of category here, too. What qualifies as a psychedelic in the context of your question? Intoxicants of all sorts were used by people in history whenever they encountered them, and the boundary about what was psychedelic seems blurry to me. Iboga, syrian rue, tobacco, amanita, wine, henbane, the list goes on. People have always been committed to changing their consciousness, employing combinations of breathing techniques, posture, caves, sacred landscapes, sacred spaces, drugs, extreme temperature change, pain, bodily mutilation, fasting, exposure, ritual, you name it to try to get where they want to go.
They sure did...
"Most North American Indian greatly respected visions, but few immersed themselves in them so deeply as did the Plains tribes. Sometimes a spirit may come on its own accord, but usually the Plains Indian had to go in active pursuit of his vision. He did this by isolating himself, fasting and thirsting, and practicing self-torture, at the same time imploring the spirits to take pity on his suffering. The youth gashed his arms and legs, and among the Crow it was the custom to cut off a joint from a finger of the left hand. Cheyenne vision-seekers thrust skewers of wood under pinches of skin in the breast; these skewers were attached to ropes, which in turn were tied to the pole. All day the youth leaned his full weight..
Lol, yeah. He talks about it on his social media. The poor guy is a hot mess. The guy on his right is facing charges for distribution of cannabis and LSD. Tattoo on his right hand is of the logo of one of the most famous modern LSD vendors.Does the actor known as the QANON SHAMAN trip?
I cannot see his tattoo, can you please post a more clear image of it?Lol, yeah. He talks about it on his social media. The poor guy is a hot mess. The guy on his right is facing charges for distribution of cannabis and LSD. Tattoo on his right hand is of the logo of one of the most famous modern LSD vendors.
Would you put fasting and self flagellation into the same pot as searching for altered states on psychedelics tho burnt? Self flagellation might be people trying to reach the godhead for their own reasons but more likely it's primitive and deranged "worship" to try and please a frightening "god".
Are any of the established religions outside mesoamerica preaching drug use as a route to personal enlightenment today? I read Buddhism and psychedelics and it's just full of fucktards saying when they learned about Buddhism they "didn't need" psychedelics..
Thanks! I remember the first time I saw a tattoo on someone's hand it was in the summer of 2002 and the guy working at a convenience store I went to while camping with friends after a concert had a lavender lotus tattooed onto his hand.