MagickalKat777
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This is being synthed overseas but sold domestically. Its not another 5IAI or benzos fury or Meph. This is a very promising analog of MMDA if I'm not mistaken.
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This drug will be nothing special... ... ...
I would personally go with neither. It doesn't resemble the beauty of MDMA's euphoria and empathy or MDA's darker and more "twisted" euphoria with still mild psychedelic effects. And I also stated in some thread that MDAI/MDAT are interesting, yet never put the superior to MDMA. This never-ending search for qualitative MDMA substitute in vendors' menu drives some crazy.
You know what? After reading about both 5-me-MDA and MMA, I'm starting to think that 3-methoxy-5-methylamphetamine might be a really good compound...
You know what? After reading about both 5-me-MDA and MMA, I'm starting to think that 3-methoxy-5-methylamphetamine might be a really good compound...
did you have a serious hangover? Maybe higher doses?
And what really made you think that what you consumed was actually 5-Methyl-MDA? 500mg is quite a lot as for this chemical dosing. I've never heard/seen it being sold as MDA or MDMA (think what's easier to synthesize for an underground chemist and what has more demand on the market).
Wow this guy does not know what he's talking about. The higher the eletronegativity the greater it attracts electrons. Halogens have 7 valence electrons so they can make one bond. 3 free electrons? No. Fluoride is not useless lol, it can completely change how a molecule acts in the brain by changing its polarity, like 4-FA for instance. Just because an atom has bromine in it doesn't make it toxic, it's how the molecule is metabolized and/or how it effects the neurotransmitters. While it's true all addictive drugs release dopamine indirectly or directly there's more to it than trying to mimic the dopamine structure. "Cl is basically non-toxic"... what the fuck!? You just named some of the most neurotoxic drugs known to man. They're intentionally used to kill brain cells!!Electronegativity is a useful concept when considered alongside with atomic size in both organic chemistry and pharmacology.
F is the most electronegative (electron withdrawing) halogen, but it is only about the size of a H atom. All attached halogens have three pairs of lone pairs of electrons. F is basically useless by itself; for example, 4-FA is only about a 1/3rd as good as regular amphetamine. Next, is Cl; Cl is you best bet as far as the halogens go. Take a perusal of the Physician's Desk Reference and you will find Cl aplenty represented in psychoactive drug structures. Br is heavier than Cl and is too toxic; bromazepam, for instance, is the one of the few benzodiazepines that causes liver damage. I is the largest/heaviest and most electropositive halogen, but it makes for weak psychedelics.
3,4-dichloroamphetamine has shown the most potential in animals studies as far as level of self-administering, a measure of addiction potential. Addiction potential is related to the dopamine neurotransmitter system. I would suggest
3,4-dichlormethcathinone perhaps. I say 3,4-dichloro over plain 4-chloro because the former is a closer analogue to dopamine. Reinforcing dopamine is the whole point of addictive drug design. An aromatic Cl functional group is somewhat similar to a hydroxy but crosses the blood brain barrier a lot better. Cl is basically
non-toxic.