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RCs 3-MMC (3-Methylmethcathinone) Megathread (v1)

Goddamn, that stuff gave me one of the worst hangovers EVER!

I hadn't any MDMA for at least 12 years now, so can someone with experience tell me if the hangover of this is worse than the one you're getting from MDMA?
 
THCified said:
Goddamn, that stuff gave me one of the worst hangovers EVER!

I hadn't any MDMA for at least 12 years now, so can someone with experience tell me if the hangover of this is worse than the one you're getting from MDMA?
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yes i dont get hangover from mdma but the hangover from this is more like amphetamine hangover for me.. and id say yes its worse than mdma hangover.
 
KK, thanks! As far as i remember, the hangover from MDMA, if there even was one, wasn't that bad as the one i got from 3-MMC. But i was much younger, so i dunno how i'm reacting nowadays.

Damn...even 1 1/2 weeks later i'm still shaken to the core because it was Hell on Earth...
 
So what's a common dosage for this? how much mg are comparable to 80mg 4-MMC snorted?
 
It's never going to be comparable to meph, no matter what the dosage. I still haven't worked out what's best -- 50mg lines seem too small to cause any euphoria, but they quickly lead to high pulse rate and overstimulation. Subsequent redoses seem to not feel like anything, no rush at all, but the urge to redose still overpowers any logic. Not very impressed with this stuff.
 
kah8 said:
Then, what's a common-medium dosage for this chem?
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I have high tolerance to 4mmc and would normally take 375-400mg gelcapped

I take the same amount for 3mmc even though 3mmc was originally said to need a higher dose.
 
Xaerne said:
It's never going to be comparable to meph, no matter what the dosage. I still haven't worked out what's best -- 50mg lines seem too small to cause any euphoria, but they quickly lead to high pulse rate and overstimulation. Subsequent redoses seem to not feel like anything, no rush at all, but the urge to redose still overpowers any logic. Not very impressed with this stuff.
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try it mixed with methylone 150mg m1/200mg 3m

gelcapped
 
So is there any euphoria off this stuff at all? I thought the sound of it being more "coke like" could be interesting, but I don't like the sound of being any harsher than meph on the body.. Might test a bit to see though
 
I just bio-assayed a sample I got of this RC. 250mg+.

Last drug use was 5 weeks before, using speed (base).

T+00:00 I first snorted 50mg and waited. The pain was tolerable, actually more so than the pain of insufflating 4-MMC (AFAICR since I haven't touched 4-MMC since the ban). But the backdrop was absolutely disgusting. It was more than a very bad taste, it felt uncomfortable, sorta achy on the throat.

T+00:15 In terms of effects the 50mg line did nothing for me. So I put the whole baggy (minus 50g to be snorted) in some toilet paper and swallowed. I had eaten a big fatty sandwich about an hour before the parachute. I waited again.

T+01:00 Three quarter of an hour later I finally felt something beyond any placebo effect. I got chills running down my head and my neck. I also felt warmer, more energetic. My pupils were only slightly dilated.

T+01:10 Ten minutes later I snorted another 50mg and waited again. This got me going: I started feeling good, some mild euphoria and my mouth got dry. I was also horny now. So I watched some porns online and played with myself for about half an hour until I came. Actually I had a few dry orgasms on the way so that was nice.

No uncomfortable PNS symptoms were felt at that dose, but I get from the posts above that it's on the low side of dosing.

All in all, since I did not expected much out of it, I was nicely surprised. But at this dosage range, it certainly doesn't touch the insane-otherworldly euphoria of a comparable dose of 4-MMC.

I think someone gave it a seven if 4-MMC was a ten. I agree. 7 out of 10
 
Am I the only one that likes this stuff better than 4-MMC? They're pretty similar, and 3-MMC sort of lacks the over the top push of 4-MMC but 3-MMC gives me that in the moment soft fuzzy magical "wow I'm almost too high" feeling that MDMA does.

It's worth noting I took it orally, 260mg, and with 4-MMC I always snorted it and took slightly lower doses, so that's quite possibly why I preferred it, but I'm sort of surprised by how many people here seem to find this one worthless. Given the choice I'd buy this stuff over 4-MMC, not that I'm too keen on buying either for a while though now that I have a bunch of 6-APB to hand.
 
Jesusgreen said:
Am I the only one that likes this stuff better than 4-MMC? ...
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Honestly, yes :D;)

No way I would find 3-MMC worthless, it is pretty nice, but the euphoria, the horniness, the feeling that everything is absolutely perfect, all those effects are faaaar weaker than with 4-MMC.

If 4-MMC is 10/10 as euphoric RC stim, I'd give 3-MMC 6/10, maybe 6.5. And so would all the people who tried both substances with me.

3-MMC makes me quite talkative and feeling nice but given the possibility, I would trade 5g of 3-MMC for single g of 4-MMC without thinking twice
 
The horniness of 4-mmc is second to none. The first time I took 4-mmc I parachuted 100mg to get a feeling of what to expect and then dropped another 200mg half an hour later to get me in the oh-fuck-this-is-no-placebo-effect zone. As soon as I took the second dose, I decided I wanted to go to a park nearby to enjoy the effects of the drug in the wilderness. Just as I attached my bike to a tree, the euphoria and the horniness hit me like a ton of bricks. I knew there was a gay cruising area one and a half mile away from where I was. This was not what I had envisioned but let me tell you I headed straight to this spot and engaged in - you guessed it - outdoor gay sex. I wanted wilderness? Well, things went wild!

I'm not quite sure things would have gotten so far out of hand with 3-mmc =D
 
So reluctantly tried some 3-MMC crystal (50 - 80 mg oral dosages over a couple of days and after that the gram was gone)

I was an early adopter of 4-MMC much because of the ability to party all night on it and still have at least relatively intact monoamine levels in the morning... until the more:ishness character started to become clearer). Then got really worried because of the 4-methylephedrine metabolite vasoconstriction nastiness. Stopped doing it.

What do we now, or can infer, about possible toxic metabolites from 3-MMC? Perhaps an ADD question? But an important one nevertheless.
 
Sourcing isn't allowed on bluelight, I can give you general advice though, it is pretty near IMPOSSIBLE to find online vendor for 4-MMC because it is illegal in all of developed world. Vendor openly selling 4-MMC (by openly I mean with the site easily foundable by google) would be exactly as crazy as a vendor openly selling meth or heroin because it's a top class (most addictive) drug and everyone knows that in 2013, even stupid politicians.
If you order it online, you ARE going to be scammed by some legal RC mimicking 4-MMC with 99.5% chance.
 
Jesusgreen said:
Am I the only one that likes this stuff better than 4-MMC? They're pretty similar, and 3-MMC sort of lacks the over the top push of 4-MMC but 3-MMC gives me that in the moment soft fuzzy magical "wow I'm almost too high" feeling that MDMA does.
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I like it better because it's softer and less more:ish (but deep in my heart I really miss the 4-MMC "FUCKYEAHPARTY"-thing). It certainly retains the pro-sexual aspects of it.

If only there were studies on metabolites so we could know if there's a similar problem with vasoconstrictive metabolites and so on... that was my main fear with 4-MMC, discovering blue, dead skin tissue on my forearm...
 
Personally, I experience it a lot more like methcathinone should be than MDMA. I get a lot of stimulation, focus, and euphoria, without it being as absolutely mind-blowing and enslaving as 4-MMC. It seems a lot more functional to me. Personally, I can trust myself with 3-MMC, but not with 4-MMC. I'm definitely a fan.
 
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