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Stimulants 3-CPM

Oh, you must, in combination with someone else, who is feeling horny. Fucking wonderful, but be prepared to have to dangle your dick, in a glass of water with aspirin dissolved in it, to relieve the friction burn pain (it works. Discovered it after touching my dick after chopping scotch bonnet chillis! 😁)
dirty dangles bud
 
Who can offer any comparison of this 3-CPM, 4CPM, 4F-PM.

I'll will probably get at least one gram of 3-PM. to be sure I get something valuable. 4-Cx compounds scare me due to little chem knowledge (were they overloading the rats in that study like MDMA) 4-PMZ)??
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If 4-FA is half as long as amphetamine and way more better, should the same be true of 4F-MAR?
 
Who can offer any comparison of this 3-CPM, 4CPM, 4F-PM.

I'll will probably get at least one gram of 3-PM. to be sure I get something valuable. 4-Cx compounds scare me due to little chem knowledge (were they overloading the rats in that study like MDMA) 4-PMZ)??
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If 4-FA is half as long as amphetamine and way more better, should the same be true of 4F-MAR?
Well amphetamine itself has virtually no serotonogic effects. Putting a fluoro in the 4 position of the phenyl ring makes it serotonogic. 4-MAR is serotonogic in the first placr; putting a fluorine in thr 4 position is going to make it even moreso. That's what made 4,4'-DMAR so dangerous (several people died of serotonin syndrome).
 
Was 4-MMAR particularly dangerous , too?
It also shortened duration, which has me curious if this is a MDA to perhaps 2c-i duration version of Serotoni/4-MMAR. That was 1000% stronger than 4-MAR (which a friend found relatively commonly buying meth around Mendocino towards the "Murder Mountain" side of things.
 
I just smoked maybe 100mg of 3cpm . I’m on 4f-mph as well. Couldn’t find much on ROA. Saw people smoking it out of a burner. The chlorine had me concerned as chlorine is a highly toxic gas first gas to be used in war. Thanks Fritz Harber.
Anyways. Half way thru the smoking sesh my lungs got tighter and tighter until I just stopped. I had such bad brochioconstriction I thought I was going to suffocate. I couldn’t get air into my lungs Luckily I found an asthma inhaler even after 2 inhales of Albuterol my lungs stilll feel quite restricted but not as bad as before where I was gasping for air. I do not have asthma.
I didn’t feel shit besides this. So smoking is now out of the question. I have 400mg left. I’ll see if sniffing is possible. Or wait till tomorrow and orally take about 150mg after reading this trip report. Don’t smoke this shit. Fuck that scared me so much just now.


Wow i snorted like 40mg. I wrote such a detailed report and my phone died. TLDR. This shit kinda sucks and I’m gonna do some really good blow and see if the the one eyed yugurt slinger gonna do some amphetamine porn watching. Where you watch all of porn hub in one sesh.

Basically at around 25 mg snorted it was ok. But then I took 10-15mg more and it killed it. I. Was talkative. I can snort just about anything thanks to my adventure with snorting 2ce in 2009 where for an hour and half I felt like I had a hot iron stuck up my nose. This chemical is an irritant up the nasal passage yes. The burn lasted about a minute. The drip is horrendous like the time you decided to snort mdma at bassnectar… don’t lie. I know you did only to realize the burn and drip is horrible and it doesn’t hit you any faster. That’s how this drip is.

Anyways. This was a pretty shit chem to me. I have some real good blow that I’ve been avoiding cuz I have the 4fmph which has been an actual great substitute for good blow. But right now im so disappointed I’m gonna do two bumps. I’m also very fucking hungry. Did I really do a stim and like I’m seriously fucking hungry as fuck.

I rate this drug a 2 insufflated. Maybe a 4 at a lower dose around 25 I felt more talkative and had some funny one liners.

You know what this feels like. You know that feeling when you get subpar blow but you got it so you’re just doing it. You know that moment like 5 minutes maybe 7 minutes before you’re about to redose for the 27th time in that 8 balls history of being up your nose for only 4 hours and it’s so subpar your just gonna crush this ball and do it all and then hate life

We’ll rewind a little it feels exactly like that in between zone not right after you did a bump but like the 5 minutes before you really need to do a bump cuz fuck this sucks

Anyways I have some amazing blow that I can do just a bump or two and stop and take some etizolam some fucking Pregabalin and a tiny bit of ghb (probably gbl) and pass the fuck out

Oh and I’m deff horney if my wife was awake we’d be fucking

So smoking it made me feel like I was going to die suffocate. Snorting it was like doing terrible blow. I really really dislike it. The hornyness is interesting. I wonder how many new pornhub videos I’ll find tonight and what new fetish I’ll cum to. Let’s see. Well it almost killed me earlier and now I’m just like wtf is the point of this. I’ll eat it next time. On the next episode of Drugin Ball Z will dreamtoad finally get high or will he spend a whole episode talking about stupid shit and being hungry on a stim and openly talk about jerking off to a bunch of males on a website I’ve been looking at for 16 years but just decided to get a account finally so I can BS with y’all
Stay tuned to find out. Drugin Ball Z.

Wow you know when you have oily as fuck. Soft rock shiny shine shine Don’t stick to the bag kerosene smelly ass Peruvian marching powder that is so good you can take a bump every few hours and never come down. Yeah. I have that and decided to use this nasty ass chlorine bullshit over my amazing scale. I mean like amazing. I lived in the 305 for a while. Now I’m PNW and I’m amazed I found quality blow like this here. Not that fucking drywall mixed with amphetamines shit where your nose instantly clogs up and you’re dying of anxiety. I mean the shit where you do a bump and you sit on the couch in a total state of euphoria. I dropped this in water cuz you know i gotta bang this shit, and like literally everything just disappeared there was maybe a tiny bit that I actually had to swirl to dissolve.
I turned 250mg into about 225mg of rock. Enough ear ringing crack to go around 3 times between 3 people. From just a spoons. And 250mg.
When I bang this shit and i don’t bang shit. I was a dope addict and loved fent at one point incl my life but I didn’t bang this nasty ass shit looking tar ever. But I’ve banged this blow already to the point where I was like what the fuck is wrong with me.

But yes. I just did two bumps and I feel fanfuckingtastic. My nasal passages are no longer irritated. I will carry on with my 4fmph as I actually do like it. Snorting ablut 10mg at a time every 4-5 hours until 6pm when I stop and fall asleep by 12 no comedown. A great alternative to blow. But this 3cpm was one of the worst highs I ever had. I had sugar better than than this. Can we get more info on this garbage. Can more people give their results. Just cuz I’m already here I’ll eat it tomorrow and I’ll be back to report to y’all. I really wish I can get 3fpm all y’all are making it seem like a godsend. Cuz this 3cpm is a fucking crap send. Honestly I hate bad blow or subpar. I don’t like any blow unless it’s that oily soft sticks to itself and not the bag blow. The blow you can be in such a state of euphoria you fall asleep on. If 3cpm is like that. Ima dig around for that. So please let me know. I actually rarely do stims. I love mdma and classic cathinones methylone and mephadrone and random ass fucking shard that felt like we found the cure for cancer and snorted it every night for 2 months strait never knowing what the fuck it was and never caring. Just calling it the shards. Fucking cat piss shards. I still have never found out what that cathinone was, sadly the distributor a good friend of mine died of an OD a few months later after selling us the cat piss shards so the secret went to the grave. But what happened to Great cathinones of 12 years ago. Have we degraded over time to this. This 3cpm. This absolute mockery of my life’s work as a psychonaughtic chemical dumpster.
You know what. I’m still here fucking talking to y’all my wife asleep and I can go find click on video after video after video untill you just finally settle for one just so you can stop this endless stim searching of porn. God damn stim porn. Like it’s never ever good enough. The angles. The positions. The girls. The amputees…wait that’s a secret… midget amputees is what I meant. That. When you finally hit the diaper midget amputee non binary man women thing it they them theirs porn. It’s at that moment when you realize that you just spent 2 fucking hours talking to a phone screen about nothing and one of you l guys will read all of this. The shiniest report ever made on the shittiest drug I ever done.

On the next episode of Drugin Ball Z8
 
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What was the RC that reportedly permanently destroyed users serotonin receptors with one dose?

I think it was one of the 4 MAR variants.
 
Eh, first I heard of this. I know 4-DMAR killed people through causing hyperthermia, but destroying serotonin receptors with one dose? That sounds like the serotonin version of MPTP (the impurity in 'designer heroin' - a pethedine derived opioid), which did that to dopamine receptors, causing extreme Parkinson's disease...
 
Actually, back on topic, 3-FPM & 3-CPM sort of remind me, in a slight way, of cocaine. Nowhere near the degree of self delusion of cocaine, but a taste of that flavour
 
Actually, back on topic, 3-FPM & 3-CPM sort of remind me, in a slight way, of cocaine. Nowhere near the degree of self delusion of cocaine, but a taste of that flavour
Taste. Flavor even has a scale look. At first the 4f-mph was a great substitute for me to stop semi cocaine use. After about a week and half and treating this drug respectfully as it is potent. It’s a very clearheaded, only redose once a day, and been using internasaly. The effect closely resemble very good pure cocaine with a slight deminished euphoria that does indeed last longer and come off like nothing, however I feel more active and clear headed on this than when I use real great blow. Oily scale blow tends to keep me relaxed. No jitters and is easy to come off of as well. But obviously a much higher affinity to want to redose.

I am however worried about the caustic matter because my nose alresdy bled twice and remember I snort 15mg max two times a day. I will go to a oral route

The worst negative is possible addiction starting I wake up with excruciating headaches and lethargy and cannot get out of bed before I do my morning bump. This is becoming concerning to me as I have only used this substance for a week in a half. I do not like stims not are they my DOC. I used adderal at 10mg daily for two years and one day just quit. I am becoming extremely worried about these lethargic and painful mornings. I am trying to gather more date and trying to slowest ween back and go oral

Also on a side note it seems tocme that 4fmph has a higher affinity to dopamine receptors and Norepinephrine because when I try to use cocaine on top of this 4fmph I actually have a blocked effect. Kind of like subs and dope. It’s not completely but blocks enough to remove euphoria, and takes almost 3x as much to just feel it. That’s some interest to me as well
 
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Actually, back on topic, 3-FPM & 3-CPM sort of remind me, in a slight way, of cocaine. Nowhere near the degree of self delusion of cocaine, but a taste of that flavour
What dose orally will touch recommend. As inter-nasal and smoking has proven to be a big failure to me
 
Actually, back on topic, 3-FPM & 3-CPM sort of remind me, in a slight way, of cocaine. Nowhere near the degree of self delusion of cocaine, but a taste of that flavour

It was the similarity to crack that made me fall in love with vaped 3fpm.
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But it was better than crack. Not quite so intense, but longer lasting and sustainable.

A rush that just gets better and better. Hypersexual and hallucinogenic. Music appreciation through the roof. Days going missing.

Fuck, I miss that shit.
 
It was the similarity to crack that made me fall in love with vaped 3fpm.
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But it was better than crack. Not quite so intense, but longer lasting and sustainable.

A rush that just gets better and better. Hypersexual and hallucinogenic. Music appreciation through the roof. Days going missing.

Fuck, I miss that shit.
How about about vaped 4fmph?
 
Not tried it mate. Had a couple of oral doses but wasn't too impressed. Having said that, I wasn't impressed with oral 3fpm either.
Orally I haven’t been impressed at all. At 10 15 and 20mg. I feel absolutely nothing euphoric but I can concentrate well at 15-20 orally

However at around 10-15mg insufflated it’s a very good functioning stim that gradually keeps going. It can start to get uncomfortable after around 25 sniffed. However I only this substance for a week and a half I only snort jt 2-3 times a day at this dose and it has absolutely some caustic properties as my nose has some blood scars within from just these small doses.

So I am trying to find a proper ROA. It’s also been causing some terrible next day effects. I can’t get out of bed until I take a little bump. It’s as it my body is hooked from a week of use. Extreme headaches. Nausea, lethargy. I don’t understand and lowering my dosages and trying to just stick to oral if it helps with the morning wake up without further damage to my nose. Which after years of previous cathinone uses kind of scsry to see how fast my nose deteriated.
 
Not tried it mate. Had a couple of oral doses but wasn't too impressed. Having said that, I wasn't impressed with oral 3fpm either.
Any oral methylphenidate derivative will leave something to be desired, seeing the vast majority is metabolized by the liver (plasma pseudoesterases), before it gets anywhere near the brain (take an oral dose, divide by 5 and that's close to how much reaches your brain. That's without even considering the slower onset of an oral dose). My preferred ROA is IM: 90%+ bioavailability and fucking fast onset. Developed a taste for that ROA as after going for a meal with my mrs, I would frequently be full and sleepy, for driving home. 10mg IM was enough to wake me up, without becoming reckless, until we got home (at which point things would get a bit out of hand, seeing to total fuckfest it can initiate!).

As 4-FMPH is aprox 3x the potency of methylphenidate and also has low (20%) bioavailability, 10mg IM is equivalent to eating 150mg of Ritalin!
 
As 4-FMPH is aprox 3x the potency of methylphenidate and also has low (20%) bioavailability, 10mg IM is equivalent to eating 150mg of Ritalin!
Besides ketamine I’ve inly IV’d. Heroin and Cocaine only. Where do you suggest to IM 4f-mph and are there any valid links to prove others have done this. I am a little bit over 4f-mph. I do not like how quick the euphoria faded after just a few days use. I don’t not like how any doses after 20mg become incredible uncontrollable in a sense that there’s no high you just feel annoyed. I do not like methylphenidate due to its come down and was actually very intrigued as to the no comedown for 4f- yet it seemed strange how some thing with a euphoria likened to good cocaine but not as strong disappeared in just a few days use. I took a break and will for another week. I continue further experimentation on this chem next week


I am about to take 159mg of 3cpm
 
Besides ketamine I’ve inly IV’d. Heroin and Cocaine only. Where do you suggest to IM 4f-mph and are there any valid links to prove others have done this. I am a little bit over 4f-mph. I do not like how quick the euphoria faded after just a few days use. I don’t not like how any doses after 20mg become incredible uncontrollable in a sense that there’s no high you just feel annoyed. I do not like methylphenidate due to its come down and was actually very intrigued as to the no comedown for 4f- yet it seemed strange how some thing with a euphoria likened to good cocaine but not as strong disappeared in just a few days use. I took a break and will for another week. I continue further experimentation on this chem next week


I am about to take 159mg of 3cpm
Well, my experience with it is just one person's opinion (for what it's worth), but one person who understands the pharmacokinetics etc of the drug. I could mention others who have found it useful, but without their concent , it's not going to happen.
Of course, it will not be for everyone (nothing is), but giving personal experiences, along with solid, peer reviewed facts, is the best I can do..
 
Well, my experience with it is just one person's opinion (for what it's worth), but one person who understands the pharmacokinetics etc of the drug. I could mention others who have found it useful, but without their concent , it's not going to happen.
Of course, it will not be for everyone (nothing is), but giving personal experiences, along with solid, peer reviewed facts, is the best I can do..
I appreciate that. What was the dose of your IM I’ll try it out I guess. 4fmph was good for a few days but I really want to explore more of it
 
Currently on 150mgs of 3-cpm Oral. Finally something worth it

After an incredibly horrible and failed vaporizing experience, and another very odd internasal experience I decided to try 150mg of oral 3-cpm

+.30 hours into my dose I was already beginning to feel the tingles and desire to talk more

+1:00 I was wondering if this was all. It was calm. Euphoric. But I want more. I feel good talkative, relaxed. Heart is not racing, I am a little sweaty. My mind is absolutely very clear headed and absolutely 0 anxiety. I did use 2mg of etizolam about 3 hours prior to this reporting.

+1:50. I am here now rather enjoying this. This feeling remind me of one of my all time favorites. Bk-MDMA. Methylone (also known as "3,4-methylenedioxy-N-methylcathinone
Not many may have had experiences with Methylone as it was a very popular RC in the 2008-2011 and beyond markets. Easily accessible to us on Silk Road.

The feelings are a state of bliss and relaxation. Talkativity and pure warm euphoria. It’s like MDMA without the complete idiot face you get. This 3-cpm I giving fond memories of those times I once acquired methyolone. My body is tingling. My days woes are gone. I am in a very peaceful state of euphoria. The euphoria is not extreme, it’s just there, it’s a nice weighted blanket and all. I am watching anime, specifically “My Neighbor Totoro”. The high is very very slight and for many who are heavy stim users they may not enjoy such a weak stim.
For us who enjoy weak stim and mdma who’s is a chemical worth looking into

I will now take 50mg more and report back in 30 minutes.

Please feel free. To ask questions

+2:50. I took 50mg about an hour ago. It didn’t intensify the trip much more. I am extremely concentrated and am going back and forth having very intelligent talks with people on the DrugsNerd sub. I find it very easy to recall previous information in my head on this substance. I am sweating more profusely than other stims that are as calm as this one is. Which is informing me to DRINK WATER. I feel as if I had snorted like 20mg of adderall without any of the I’ll effects that come with snorting adderall. The heart racing, profuse sweating, anxiety, the blabber mouth. None of that. I feel the same euphoria but I am absolutely calm and serene with it.

I just stretched a little bit and it felt like when I stretch on a very small dose of Mdma. I feel very very calm and relaxed while also very honed into my thought processes, recall comes easy to me, easier than most days. This is like an amazing form of concentrative stim that really reminds me of my previous experimentations with classic cathinones. I am truly enjoying this trip a lot. A lot. I am now going to listen to music and see the appreciation with that. I sadly ran out and 200g is as far as I will go so I will now see how long the euphoria last

Please ask questions as I am currently tripping.

+4:00-4:30

I took 3cpm at around 8-830 and redosed very lightly middle way thru the trip. The entire length lasting for ablut 4 hours. I am now beginning to feel a lot less euphoria as there are still those little burst of hints that I am still on something but they come and go. Like the end of an MDMA trip. Listening to music and have a great appreciation to it. Even as the high is going away I still feel good. It’s a slow decrease. If I had more. I would absolutely redose probably in the 100mg range as the 50mg range felt as if it helped a little bit 100mg would of been better.

In general this was a great RC likened to classic cathinones specifically to what I used to feel on Methylone. Ill order a larger batch and will create a much more detailed trip report where I plan on using this chemical all day and seeing where I can take it to I felt hungry the whole time while on it telling me that appetite is not something that tends to be decreased while on this. Music sounds splendid. Talk felt great. The come down even feels nice. I may eat a meal, take a single bump of coke. Why not. And end it with a good dose of GHB and Pregabalin to go to sleep


Till next time hopefully I have enough to get me to write a report with an entire days worth of product. I only had 200mg. But for the price this is at. This could be a perfect mdma substitute for those trying to take a break from mdma. I do not know how tomorrow will feel mentally. I’ll report back tomorrow when I wake up!

WAKE UP- Honestly I feel perfectly fine. I drank like 2 ltrs of water if not more. It’s nice because some stims make it really hard to drink water like coke, this one made water drinking fun. I did stay up longer than I wanted to because I felt good and was enjoying music and smoking a little bit of FXE. When I did go to sleep I used a pregab with GHB and knocked the fuck out. Woke up perfectly fine. No hangover. Nothing odd or bad to report of
 
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