I've only tried 2c-e once (13-14mg orally) and I have to say it was almost indistinguishable from 4-aco-dmt which I've tried 3 times before (all orally). If I didn't know any better, I would think that I got jerked by my supplier in that 4-aco-dmt was what he actually gave me. But there were some reasons to think it wasn't 4-aco-dmt (that it was 2c-e is another matter). For one thing, the come up time was about 3 times longer than with 4-aco-dmt. For another, the duration was about twice as long. Third, the intensity at 13-14mg seemed about equal to my experiences with about 20mg of 4-aco-dmt (so if it was 4-aco-dmt it was unusually intense).
A last thing that seemed different was that my thinking became somewhat more philosophical, and I don't remember being that way on 4-aco-dmt (though I can't be too sure of this. I'll have to try 4-aco-dmt again and watch for this). OTOH, I tend to be a philosophical thinking kinda guy to begin with, so it's hard to say whether my philosophical thinking was from the 2c-e or just my natural predisposition coming out.
I feel a bit more confident that it really was 2c-e after reading a few trip reports here on BL as they seem similar to my experience. But I was really expecting something different since
this thread seem to convey a dominant theme that 2c-e was a very
spiritual (which I don't necessarily equate with philosophical thinking) and emotional experience (emotionally, it wasn't that intense at all), that it made one very introspective (which I guess might describe my experience), and was overall everyone's favorite phenelthylamine. This I don't understand if their experiences were anything like mine. My one 2c-c trip I had before the 2c-e was
way more exciting, emotional, spiritual, and highly visual (another thing 2c-e was lacking) than my 2c-e trip (those are the only two 2c's I've tried so far), and 2c-c received hardly any recognition in that thread.
OTT, the philosophical frame of mind I experienced was, in some respects, similar to my thinking on 4-aco-dmt in that it felt very confused and disorganized (unlike my 2c-c experience in which my thoughts felt very clear and centered) and the impetus to philosophize felt like my way of trying to sort out my thoughts, though in the case of 4-aco-dmt, the impetus was to sort out emotional issues rather than to philosophize. It makes me wonder whether what one thinks about is a matter of what one has recently been through, which would make sense out of both my 2c-e and 4-aco-dmt experiences. Another recurring theme in the above thread was that 2c-e has barely any body load, and this was not the case for me. Like 4-aco-dmt, the nausia was definitely noticeable. It was still tolerable and I got through it within an hour or so, but this was all too similar to my 4-aco-dmt experience (maybe this is not what's meant by "body load"). And finally, I'd have to say the visuals were pretty much the same on both 2c-e and 4-aco-dmt, unlike my 2c-c experience in which the visuals were
amazingly intense.
Anyway, maybe others can shed some light on this for me. Is it normal for 2c-e to feel somewhat like 4-aco-dmt or does this come as a surprise?