25I-NBOME Mega dose Ruined me HELP

[johhnya541]

25i-NBOME has changed my life for the worse.. I think the guy who dosed me didn't shake the vile well enough before he put it in my hand. I'm not sure what he dissolved it in but he poured a giant puddle into my palm. It had to have been 20-30 hits. He told me it was super clean LSD, Orange Sunshine to be exact. My friends were neighbors with the guy and they were all talking it up as well. This was at EFF 2012 by the way... I could see the puddle seeping into my skin as I looked at it, I then decided to lick my palm, it was super bitter tasting and I knew right away it was not L. A half hour later, I puked followed by the most intense visuals I have ever had in my life. My girlfriend and my friends were on it as well but they said they didn't have nearly as intense visuals as I. Some time goes by as I'm melting not making any sense whatsoever. I could tell my girl was concerned about me by the way I was acting. We decided to lean up against a tree and relax for a minute when I felt my heart pounding out of the side of my chest, my girl immediately said that she could feel it because my arm was around her. It scared the shit out of me. The whole rest of the festival I felt super spun and drained. I had no enthusiasm whatsoever, all my friends thought I was giving off negative vibes and it seemed like they were trying to avoid me. The whole time I was trying to keep myself calm and kept reassuring myself that it was going to ware off soon, It didn't. When I got home I started to panic and I thought I was in a permatrip because it was four days after I consumed the 25i. By the way, I later found out it was 25i-NBOME from a friend who actually bought a vile of it and took it home and got it tested. I had extreme anxiety and I couldn't stop thinking about it. I was worrying about being perm fucked soo bad. I kept bringing it up to my girlfriend and my family, I would not stop talking about it. I admitted myself to the ER and I told them that I consumed a large amount of lsd and MDMA because that's what I thought I had. They ran a bunch of tests on me and said that nothing was out of the ordinary and sent me on my way. I think since I didn't go to the hospital earlier they couldnt find any abnormalities. I felt so hopeless and helpless about the whole situation during the first 2 months after the trip. I couldn't believe I could change my life over one weekend of trying to have fun. The love of my life ended up leaving me because of how different I became, how socially anxious, depressed, pessimistic I was. My symptoms included; Severe social anxiety, Major Depression with suicidal ideation, Brain fog feeling in the back of my head, no motivation, no energy, black stool, stomach ulcers, depersonalization/Derealization, jerky movements, cognitive difficulties, etc. Also, I weighed myself at my house when I got home and I was 138 lb which was 20 lb lighter than when I went into the fest. I'm a very slim and slender guy who has never had body fat so I came to the conclusion that I lost 20 pounds of muscle! One of the specialist I saw said I could have had hyperthermia for over 12 hrs so that could explain the muscle loss and neurological problems. That's all I can think of for now but those lasted for a good 3 months until I started feeling some relief. Since then, its been about 6 months and I'm left with less severe anxiety and depression, the brain fog is gone, my energy has come back a little bit, motivation is slightly better, I still have cognitive difficulties and whatever song I hear gets stuck in my head all day and it drives me crazy. I went to a few specialist early on (before I knew it was 25i) and they just sent me home and said wait it out... One said I may have fried my dopamine receptors based on all of my symptoms, he said they grow back in 6 months to a year, that gave me some relief but that doesn't explain the cognitive problems Ive been having, I often forget what I'm talking about or its hard for me to find the words I want to say. I feel like a fucking idiot when I talk to people. I hope to god everyday that I return to baseline but its not looking like it. Not a day goes by where I don't think about that festival and what happened to me. I'm so negative now and I have a very pessimistic outlook on life. Has anyone had any similar experiences? Do the symptoms subside? Should I try medication? Ive abstained from most drugs since then besides weed everyday and LSD and MDMA occasionally. I don't want to be stuck in this funk for the rest of my life, I'm only 25 and I have so much life ahead of me. Please respond, any input would help. Sorry about how this article is all over the place, I have ADD really bad and it seems that Its become worse since the trip. Thanks John

 

[FlawedByDesign]

My Advice would be to cut out the weed. Once in a while might not hurt but getting high every day is probably slowing your recovery. I would also stay away from mdma until you're back to baseline. I had a massive overdose of 25B several months ago and I feel like Im about back to normal so there is hope. Smoking weed in the weeks after my OD really compounded my negative effects. Keep a positive outlook, eat healthy and mabey take some multivitamins. Things will get better.

 

[rollonsafely]

What kind of a jackass pours a puddle of unknown liquid into someones hand. All i have to say is someone would have been getting fucked up as soon as i found out it was bitter.

Eat right, exercise and most of all avoid drugs and you should make a strong recovery. Good luck man, a positive attitude goes a long way!

 

[choco1ate]

What kind of a jackass pours a puddle of unknown liquid into someones hand

this is exactly why people have died from this chemical

 

[mozaik0000]

Sorry to hear that OP... You'll get better...

...much faster if you cut out the weed! Weed everyday is enough to give me the symptoms you describe! And don't touch MDMA or LSD, those can be psychological bulldozers for the worse!No caffeine either, that stuff can make one real nervous!
Stay clean, go exercise, reconnect with nature, eat healthy, go to bed early an wake up with the sunshine!
Now you'll get better much faster!

 

[Anon0631]

^ cut out all drugs in fact. Even caffeine, cigarettes and alcohol.

It will get better, it just takes time. Sometimes it takes a long time but one day you will look back and realise that was deep history.

 

[kwhat]

i was at electric forest past summer, all there was there was fake drugs, me n sum of my homies where the only ones who brought dank lsd, white on white flufffy sorry to hear man thats always why u get a tester for fests cant trust no one there. i had a test kit n wanted to get mdma there n tested my WHOLE bottle while i was there n found no real mdma id cut out all drugs, i had a perma trip for a month jus because i abused lsd for 3 years, dosing about 2-3 times a week. had the same severe aniexty and panic attacks n im on xanax for it which works wonders for me, when im not on it cuz i tried to go off it for a month to see how id feel n i had panic attacks out of no where about 3 times a week n horrible aniexty.

 

[EarthBounded]

You will get better my friend, do not use LSD or MDMA for at least a year, cut down on Ganja( i wouldn't say quit, ganja may be beneficial) , cut down on caffeine and tobacco (if you smoke).

Pretty much good thing you are OK and alive, i got a bunch of fake MDMA that made me crazy last year and I had to get benzos for the following months i felt insane, this is a time when benzos are ok IMO, and the guy I got the fake stuff from had amazing moon rock the week before then the weekend after he was selling fake shit he got arrested with 2 ounces fake MDMA and a bunch of other shit... I guess serves him right even tho he was a nice dude...

If you ever see that dude at a fest again I would consider shaking him down and possible kicking him square in the junk.

This is why I am boycotting the ACID scene for now until these shit heads ( you know who you are ) get ran out of town.

OP Thanks for the post and informing us all

 

[Reverend Random]

That does sound very shitty, John. Sure sounds like you didn't deserve any of this. However, my prime advise would be to try and get your negative energy unstuck. I know that's easier said than done, but a negative attitude will reinforce all the negative symptoms you're already experiencing. Try and do some positive things in your life. Exercising, doings sports, jogging, cycling, whatever, really seem to help me. It always makes me feel better. And once your body is tired, your head is not paid so much attention to, and it's your head that's making you feel bad.

I would concur on cutting down on psychoactive substance intake. You don't have to quit overnight, but I think you have a better chance of recuperating quickly if you don't add fuel to the fire, so to speak.

Getting into the right state and mind and corresponding bodily fitness go a long way, I'm sure of this. Take care of your physical and mental health and you'll start feeling better in the long run. Give yourself time. Meditation and/or mindfulness might help you in accepting your symptoms and not fighting them. It's similar to when you're in a psychedelic state of mind - fighting negative thoughts seems to worsen them, while giving into them and accepting them and going with the flow allow you to cope with the situation at hand.

Good luck dude, and keep reporting back here once in a while.

 

[EarthBounded]

Also btw one of the best ways to fight back at this is cleansing your body of all toxins.

Diet and exercise are key, I recommend a Multi-vitamin and super food supplement I use Vitamineral green, this shit works great for detox and giving you everything you need to fight back.

I also recommend a diet similar to vegetarian, eat alot of beans nuts and rice instead of alot of meat, run or walk once a day try to sweat.

Some say 5-HTP works well.

All you can do is be as healthy as possibly because it is your body that needs to fight back now.

At one point i was in a psych ward with terrible addictions when I left I felt like a ghost i knew it was all my fault and i did to many drugs ( op you dont sound like you abused drugs it sounds like you just didnt deserve what you got and ended up in a place like me )

It took me about 5 months to fully recover and now I feel great I got all my natural endorfins and levels back! I have real dreams again and have hope, you will too just make sure not to keep using drugs like LSD MDMA etc for now, pray for your self and hope others pray for you brotha. I know it sounds weird but its all just science

 

[Captain.Heroin]

I think since I didn't go to the hospital earlier they couldnt find any abnormalities.

That's because from an outsider's perspective, you're fine. From your perspective - and from what it sounds like to me, you're just really badly shaken up from this experience. I'd hope that HPPD isn't possible to achieve from a single mega dose like this, but if it is, I'm very sorry if that's what you have from this experience.

I felt so hopeless and helpless about the whole situation during the first 2 months after the trip. I couldn't believe I could change my life over one weekend of trying to have fun. The love of my life ended up leaving me because of how different I became, how socially anxious, depressed, pessimistic I was. My symptoms included; Severe social anxiety, Major Depression with suicidal ideation, Brain fog feeling in the back of my head, no motivation, no energy, black stool, stomach ulcers, depersonalization/Derealization, jerky movements, cognitive difficulties, etc.

its been about 6 months and I'm left with less severe anxiety and depression, the brain fog is gone, my energy has come back a little bit, motivation is slightly better, I still have cognitive difficulties and whatever song I hear gets stuck in my head all day and it drives me crazy. I went to a few specialist early on (before I knew it was 25i) and they just sent me home and said wait it out... One said I may have fried my dopamine receptors based on all of my symptoms, he said they grow back in 6 months to a year, that gave me some relief but that doesn't explain the cognitive problems Ive been having, I often forget what I'm talking about or its hard for me to find the words I want to say. I feel like a fucking idiot when I talk to people. I hope to god everyday that I return to baseline but its not looking like it. Not a day goes by where I don't think about that festival and what happened to me. I'm so negative now and I have a very pessimistic outlook on life. Has anyone had any similar experiences? Do the symptoms subside? Should I try medication? Ive abstained from most drugs since then besides weed everyday and LSD and MDMA occasionally. I don't want to be stuck in this funk for the rest of my life, I'm only 25 and I have so much life ahead of me. Please respond, any input would help. Sorry about how this article is all over the place, I have ADD really bad and it seems that Its become worse since the trip. Thanks John

I would give it time. Try going to therapy - I think this could really help.

I'm really amazed by the list of symptoms you experienced after this. That's really scary. I don't think I'm going to be doing LSD in the future, but if I am, I would be hesitant to ever try it unless I was certain it was real LSD.

Nonetheless, a lot of psychedelics can cause this kind of reaction to varying degrees.

I'm really sorry that you have struggled with this for so long now, but just focus on the present; that's all you can do.

Was there anything in your life that could have caused depression previous to you doing drugs? It's possible for psychedelics to amplify the emotions you feel normally, so that after you come off the trip you are hyper-sensitive to your own emotions. Some people have worsened anxiety/depression after using psychedelics due to this. In my opinion though it s better to feel and to have the emotions than to have the opposite happen where you feel nothing and become apathetic/depressed almost by default.

If you can think of things that could have caused pre-existing depression, then stay in therapy and work on this stuff. If not, then you can still get therapy obviously. But I would also say that working on coping skills to help you cope with anxiety, focus on building patience, reach out to other people who have gone through similar experiences (you can always PM me).

The last piece of advice I can give you is to avoid all psychedelics, all together, for a long time.

 

[johhnya541]

Thank you everyone for the support. It really helps, you have no idea. I will take all of your Ideas into consideration and keep you updated on my progress.

 

[johhnya541]

That's because from an outsider's perspective, you're fine. From your perspective - and from what it sounds like to me, you're just really badly shaken up from this experience. I'd hope that HPPD isn't possible to achieve from a single mega dose like this, but if it is, I'm very sorry if that's what you have from this experience.

Yeah, I've definitely thought about that before and there has been a few times where I almost have a, sort of realization that It just shook me up and made me realize too much about myself. And Ive looked into HPPD, a lot of my symptoms point towards that like the DP/DR and depression but I don't have any visual trails or anything thankfully. Your'e right about focusing on the present, its all I can do. I can't go back in time, yet.. hah.

My life before the incident was great, I had a great girl, good job, great friends; basically nothing to be depressed or anxious about. Although, I have gone through bouts of depression in the past over lost girlfriends, jobs etc but they only lasted a few months at most. In high school I was diagnosed with ADD and Anxiety so that may have something to do with it.. I had tripped on lsd at least 20-30 times over the span a couple of years before the 25i and never had a negative long term reaction. I did have a few bad trips but I always felt great the next day. The first 2 months after the 25i trip I felt absolutely no emotions, flat, apathetic. Sounds fucked up but I had no empathy for others and it disturbed the shit out of me because I'm normally a very charismatic, empathetic, caring guy. Luckily, my emotions have returned to normal, I think.. That was my biggest fear, not being able to feel for the ones I love or just love in general. I felt like I couldn't love. one example when I first realized the lack of empathy was a couple weeks after it happened I got a call from my best friends girlfriend saying my best friend had broken his neck and he was in the hospital, I didn't feel any emotion for him, it was terrifying. I will take your advice Captain and abstain from psychedelics.

 

[johhnya541]

My Advice would be to cut out the weed. Once in a while might not hurt but getting high every day is probably slowing your recovery. I would also stay away from mdma until you're back to baseline. I had a massive overdose of 25B several months ago and I feel like Im about back to normal so there is hope. Smoking weed in the weeks after my OD really compounded my negative effects. Keep a positive outlook, eat healthy and mabey take some multivitamins. Things will get better.

Thank you roxi, I didn't smoke herb for like 2 1/2 months after then I slowly started again, bad idea I know but the past month Ive cut way back and I'm considering quitting all together for a while. I tried smoking shortly after the trip and I felt like I was right back at square one and my symptoms were definitely magnified. Ive been eating healthy and taking lots of vitamins, Im going to look into ordering some more vitamins good for what I'm going through. Thanks again for the positive words.

 

[johhnya541]

Also btw one of the best ways to fight back at this is cleansing your body of all toxins.

Diet and exercise are key, I recommend a Multi-vitamin and super food supplement I use Vitamineral green, this shit works great for detox and giving you everything you need to fight back.

I also recommend a diet similar to vegetarian, eat alot of beans nuts and rice instead of alot of meat, run or walk once a day try to sweat.

Some say 5-HTP works well.

All you can do is be as healthy as possibly because it is your body that needs to fight back now.

At one point i was in a psych ward with terrible addictions when I left I felt like a ghost i knew it was all my fault and i did to many drugs ( op you dont sound like you abused drugs it sounds like you just didnt deserve what you got and ended up in a place like me )

It took me about 5 months to fully recover and now I feel great I got all my natural endorfins and levels back! I have real dreams again and have hope, you will too just make sure not to keep using drugs like LSD MDMA etc for now, pray for your self and hope others pray for you brotha. I know it sounds weird but its all just science

This is great advice, I'm going to buy some vitamineral green tomorrow. I'm glad to hear you recovered. I have since become more religious, and I pray everyday for myself and everyone around me. I pray for anyone dealing with the same thing I am. No one deserves this. If I get through this, (I Know I will, stay positive right? hah)I want to help people dealing with these types of things.. Thanks for your support Earthbounded, Ill keep you updated on my progress. Much love, John

 

[johhnya541]

You will get better my friend, do not use LSD or MDMA for at least a year, cut down on Ganja( i wouldn't say quit, ganja may be beneficial) , cut down on caffeine and tobacco (if you smoke).

Pretty much good thing you are OK and alive, i got a bunch of fake MDMA that made me crazy last year and I had to get benzos for the following months i felt insane, this is a time when benzos are ok IMO, and the guy I got the fake stuff from had amazing moon rock the week before then the weekend after he was selling fake shit he got arrested with 2 ounces fake MDMA and a bunch of other shit... I guess serves him right even tho he was a nice dude...

If you ever see that dude at a fest again I would consider shaking him down and possible kicking him square in the junk.

This is why I am boycotting the ACID scene for now until these shit heads ( you know who you are ) get ran out of town.

OP Thanks for the post and informing us all

oh yeah, I know what he looks like, my friend actually snapped a pic right when he was dosing me, its on fb hah. I should have jacked him right there, I just didn't think it would have such a long lasting negative effect. Those mother frakers will get what they deserve someday, I hate how they are ruining the L scene for everyone, real LSD is a beautiful, amazing chemical; I became a better person after my first trip, It really took me out of my shell, It made me realize how precious and beautiful life was and I became way more out-going and way less self-concious about myself. I should have just left it at that. I'm cutting way back on herb and going to try exercising daily.
Thanks again earth

 

[johhnya541]

What kind of a jackass pours a puddle of unknown liquid into someones hand. All i have to say is someone would have been getting fucked up as soon as i found out it was bitter.

Eat right, exercise and most of all avoid drugs and you should make a strong recovery. Good luck man, a positive attitude goes a long way!

Right? I should have jacked him right there, I just didn't expect it was going to be that intense. Also, there were cops nearby and I didn't want to get tazed or thrown out the second day. Thanks for the insight bruddah,

 

[johhnya541]

That does sound very shitty, John. Sure sounds like you didn't deserve any of this. However, my prime advise would be to try and get your negative energy unstuck. I know that's easier said than done, but a negative attitude will reinforce all the negative symptoms you're already experiencing. Try and do some positive things in your life. Exercising, doings sports, jogging, cycling, whatever, really seem to help me. It always makes me feel better. And once your body is tired, your head is not paid so much attention to, and it's your head that's making you feel bad.

I would concur on cutting down on psychoactive substance intake. You don't have to quit overnight, but I think you have a better chance of recuperating quickly if you don't add fuel to the fire, so to speak.

Getting into the right state and mind and corresponding bodily fitness go a long way, I'm sure of this. Take care of your physical and mental health and you'll start feeling better in the long run. Give yourself time. Meditation and/or mindfulness might help you in accepting your symptoms and not fighting them. It's similar to when you're in a psychedelic state of mind - fighting negative thoughts seems to worsen them, while giving into them and accepting them and going with the flow allow you to cope with the situation

Sounds like some great advice, I like mountain biking and hiking a lot so I plan on doing those this summer as much as I can. Yeah, I have had a very negative outlook sense then, It feels like something just swept over me and stole all of my positive energy and replaced it with negative. My main problem the past 10 months has been being so negative, pessimistic, hopeless and I guarantee its slowed my recovery a ton looking back on it now that you say that. I will practice staying positive like you said and make sure to keep my blood flowing by exercising. Meditation and mindfulness sounds like a great idea, im starting tomorrow. You all here have really made me feel better. This is good therapy, I'm mad at myself for not posting on here earlier, probably would have helped a ton. ah well. ill keep you updated on my progress. Thanks Rev, really kind words and great advice.

 

[johhnya541]

this is exactly why people have died from this chemical

Yeah, I am very lucky I didn't die, I bet I came close.

 

[EarthBounded]

Right? I should have jacked him right there, I just didn't expect it was going to be that intense. Also, there were cops nearby and I didn't want to get tazed or thrown out the second day. Thanks for the insight bruddah,

All jokes aside im being serious, I believe there will be alot of violence this year in the music scene with this, it started last year people beating the crap out of people slanging nbome as L, When people get fake stuff and they are already drunk or high they might be ready to kick some ass.