NeighborhoodThreat
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Won't happen here.
My school is sponsored by Philip Morris.
My school is sponsored by Philip Morris.
^Believe it or not, reducing the power of the tobacco lobby is a REAL ISSUE in the context of drug prohibition in the United States. Guess who lobbied for the war on drugs and to have certain drugs protected from the scheduling system? Alcohol and tobacco companies. They also persistently fund attacks on medical marijuana. If marijuana were widely and legally available, how long do you think that tobacco-only companies would last?
Those are the companies, not the actual smokers themselves. At that rate, everyone in America must support the war on drugs because a percentage our tax dollars fund it. Maybe everyone should leave the country and move to Columbia or Portugal because we don't want to support the war on drugs by living in a country who's government supports it. I'm pretty sure that buying clothes is wrong with this logic as there are sweat shops in china that mass produce clothes that are sent to America to be sold.
Tobacco smoking sucks, believe me, if I didn't get busted and could smoke weed, I would smoke weed rather than tobacco. Tobacco is an addiction just like any other addiction. I don't smoke because I think it is getting me anywhere, I smoke because I have a craving for nicotine. I don't break into cars or steal from people to satiate my addiction and I'm pretty sure nobody would for just cigarettes. Now when I say this next statement, I don't mean all people that are addicted to harder drugs; only some, I've had people in own family steal medication, borrow money to not pay it back, etc. just to go procure said drugs. Whats worse? That or some dude having a cigarette to ponder life?
Like one of the above posters said, what about air pollution not related to tobacco such as from cars or industrial plants? I'm sure that cigarettes are a drop in the bucket when you can constantly smell exhaust fumes. This relates mostly to urban areas of course but a large portion of the population lives in said urban areas.
Outdoors, cigarette smoke tends to go in the breeze and I generally stand where it is not blowing in someone's face.
I personally draw a line between say, a state school and a private college. Larger populations tend to occur at state schools like the one I'm attending a year from now after I finish 1 year at the local community college.
I'm pretty sure that the solution to all of this would be to have designated smoking areas that are marked and well known so people with asthma, allergies can avoid them.
There are a lot of sacrifices that are made for people to coexist, that is all I'm saying and while smoking may be one of the less necessary ones, it certainly shouldn't be looked at as the root of all evil. If you look at as a health issue, they should ban fast food on college campuses as well because fast food can lead to obesity and health problems and its not necessary or positive either. People could just as easily only eat healthy right?
Id just tell them to fuck right off and let me smoke in peace. If they said anything else id maybe tell them to go do some unnatural act with livestock or their mom or both . I have no time for cunts like that
You have a choice to start smoking and to stop smoking. Despite a smoker's complaints, it is fairly easy to quit smoking, and there are plenty of smoking cessation programs available through most universities that are already paid for through tuition. There are plenty of people that have never smoked in their lives. Smoking isn't something that is forced upon you (unless it is second-hand smoke, ahem ), like the need to wear clothes in order to function in society, or to stay within a country that you may disagree with. The choice to move out of a country is no where near the same magnitude of difficulty as choosing to stop smoking. Your claim that stopping smoking is like being forced to wear clothes or moving out of a country whose foreign policy decisions you disagree with is a strawman fallacy and is a poor foundation to build the rest of your argument upon. Since your premises are false, your conclusion is false.
The only way to reduce the power of the tobacco lobby is to reduce its consumer base through the encouragement of smoking cessation and adopting a scientifically-based social stigma to the use of tobacco in public.
And I hate those people who cough (pretend to cough) when they are around smoke. You're probably inhaling car fumes all day long so fuck off
bill hicks tells these people "shit, you're lucky YOU don't smoke!"And I hate those people who cough (pretend to cough) when they are around smoke.
so the question is how much can second-hand smoke contribute to cancer? and how does that compare to sitting around a bonfire? bill hicks tells these people "shit, you're lucky YOU don't smoke!"
@villain
Do I pay you to enter your house? Do I spend money on eating at your cafeteria or staying in your dorms? Do I employ you among other people by needing an education?
Smokers or not, we're still people. We still deserve a say. We pay equal tuition and do essentially everything a regular students does...and smoke.
Smoking outdoors on a college campus and smoking inside someones house are two totally different things. Respecting rules and being pushed around are two totally different things. I'm sure the CDC also says stuff about smoking cannabis causing cancer...
I don't have a problem not smoking indoors-in fact, I detest smoking indoors. But outdoors, with an ash tray to dispose of trash, I don't see the issue, I really don't. Especially if there are designated smoking areas that can easily be avoided by nonsmokers.
Well said and definitely agreed. I'm not even a cig smoker but a smoker who pays equal tuition, etc.. should have a right and a say. Outdoors, designated areas, ash trays, is it really a problem for you? You can avoid the smoking area just as a drinker and avoid a bar.
I feel the same way guys, I hate that you (slimvictor) have to deal with those sorts of concerns in your life. It put things in perspective for me.