To put the record straight, I have nothing against using autoflowering plants outdoors. In fact, it's often preferrable in the UK because of the climate. I am pretty sure I said this all along. I'm not sure why you lol'd at me chronic bubble. Maybe you could explain why you went back and quoted me?
However, indoors, they're shit in my opinion. There's no advantage to using them indoors, whatsoever. That's my opinion and has always been my opinion.
If you read my comment again, you'll see what I mean:
I've not seen anything to convince me growing autoflowering cannabis is worth growing. Personally i think it's a waste of time. Granted, i've never grown any, but to be honest i have no intention of doing so anyway given what i already know about these strains. Like i've said before if you missed it, they may have a place outdoors (growing in a greenhouse i class as outdoors). However, indoors is completely different.
- I just dont buy this often cited myth that Loryder is for those in small spaces. You can grow any strain you like in any space you like with the possible exception of full on landrace sats or hazes. But even then, imagination and gardening skills could open a way to achieve success. See
Keeping bonsai mums, by Oldtimer1 for more info on how to keep and maintain bonsaid mums with very little effort (it's an excellent read).
- Autoflowering cannabis is claimed to go from seed to harvest in a much shorter time. However, all you need to do is flip an indica strain with a short vegetative plant to 12/12 sooner and you'll have the short life cycle you're looking for.
- Autoflowering cannabis cannot be cloned and has to grown by seed. Seed runs are fine. But for decent medicine one needs a Mother plant of proven value, to give a regular supply of clones and thus guarantee the line of identical medication. Thing is, you cannot Mother a Loryder. Bit of an issue that, if one is growing for meds in a small space. Time to lay the myth of "Loryder for small spaces" to rest, methinks. Not only untrue, but for those looking for medicinal plants - misleading. And if you are growing simply and purely for recreational weed, surely a decent and potent Mother plant with a line of clones, is way better than an auto which yeilds lo and hits medium?
Small spaces require better growing skills, maybe. But they do not demand a dwarf genetic, and certainly not one devoid of abundant THC potential. Which is not to "knock" the loryder, but rather just to put it in its proper place.
Most hybrids can be kept low. Topping, Low Stress Training, Supercropping, mini-growing, all are methods that will keep most common Dutch genetics in order.
I'm all for using them in specific situations, like outdoors, however, for me indoors, normal non-ruderalis genetics suits me far better. In actual fact, I myself am planning on growing some autoflowering strains this year in my guerilla grow and might even try my hand at a little breeding as an experiment. However, indoors is a complete different story.
I don't see what you find so funny about that, chronic bubble. If you'd like to tell me
why you disagree, be my guest. That is unless you misread my post perhaps.
In general the only people growing autoflowering ruderalis-type genetics indoors are newbies IMO. Serious growers in general just don't touch them indoors for the most part, since they are usually just a waste of time in this situation. Outdoors it's different, as I said.