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MDMA (MOLLY) in the USA

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LSDMDMA&8683558 said:
@ the dude aboot the brown molly.
its brown because the chemist didnt want to wash it
probably only like .5% impurity turning it brown (or whatever small amount), and if you wash it and remove synth impurity, it weighs less and you make less money.
get it?
wow i got some molly that looks a LOT like that stuff posted above.
GREAT!
i actually found a few little rocks in the bag, little brown crystal rock things,and they were hard and dense, i couldnt break them up with my fingers, i tried. tastes about right too, ive got no test kit. most of it is just chunks though.
epic win
i cant seem to do nothing but fly off the handle at ppl so i got my post edited

again i cannot seem to keep the topic of the thread on track. so again my post got edited

valid point, my apologies...
 
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If the molly was produced in the same sterile environment as the other, with the same top quality precursers, sure, yes.

A batch of MDMA can still have unreacted precursers in it, which is what I suspect of the first batch, making it weaker than the original. Still pure in regards to cut, and with enough purity that a GC/MS test gave the result that it did, but with enough unreacted precurser in it to make it weaker.

I never said "its just the way it is", I suggest you read over my posts again.

Nothing fishy, ive explained everything here.


Sorry, this sounds pretty unlikely.

What kind of precursor that is a closely related phen or earlier material would cancel out over 600mg of pure MDMA lol? I understand MDA is a common leftover in pills and there are other precursors, fillers, and adulterants... but I can't imagine anybody getting that much of a roll canceled out by anything. Name it if you can think of something specific, please.
 
molly is way big in my college town. Cant find rolls though. Last summer there were plenty rolls around. At a party the other night someone offered me a "triple stack" smiley face for 20 bucks. i stuck to my coke + molly combo :)
 
Sorry, this sounds pretty unlikely.

What kind of precursor that is a closely related phen or earlier material would cancel out over 600mg of pure MDMA lol? I understand MDA is a common leftover in pills and there are other precursors, fillers, and adulterants... but I can't imagine anybody getting that much of a roll canceled out by anything. Name it if you can think of something specific, please.

What you posted had no relation to the post you quoted, so im quite confused.
 
Sorry, this sounds pretty unlikely.

What kind of precursor that is a closely related phen or earlier material would cancel out over 600mg of pure MDMA lol? I understand MDA is a common leftover in pills and there are other precursors, fillers, and adulterants... but I can't imagine anybody getting that much of a roll canceled out by anything. Name it if you can think of something specific, please.

Nobody said anything about a leftover precursor or adulterant "cancelling" MDMA. What Thizzer was saying, and what I think you're confused on, is that by weight, a pill with say, 60% MDMA and 40% unreacted precursor is, by weight, going to be weaker than a pill that is 100% (since all of the precursors fully reacted).

He was saying that it was simply the amount of MDMA that would make a pill weaker due to an incomplete conversion of all the reactants to MDMA, not that the precursors actively inhibited the ability of MDMA to do its job.
 
Nobody said anything about a leftover precursor or adulterant "cancelling" MDMA. What Thizzer was saying, and what I think you're confused on, is that by weight, a pill with say, 60% MDMA and 40% unreacted precursor is, by weight, going to be weaker than a pill that is 100% (since all of the precursors fully reacted).

He was saying that it was simply the amount of MDMA that would make a pill weaker due to an incomplete conversion of all the reactants to MDMA, not that the precursors actively inhibited the ability of MDMA to do its job.

That's why the whole 95% purity "but contains enough unreacted MDP2P (or other precursor)" to make it weaker than another 95% purity batch doesn't add up. GC works by vaporizing the substances and passing them through a very narrow tube and differentiates all of the materials in the sample by how long they take to pass through the tube. If the result is 95% MDMA, that means there is only 5% of the sample that can be anything else. If you have two samples that are both 95% purity, then neither sample can have more than 5% of ANYTHING that is not MDMA.

So one of the samples could have 95% mdma and 5% MDP2P, and the other could have 95% mdma and 2.5% mdp2p and 2.5% chalk dust, etc. But you couldn't have one that is 95% mdma and 25% mdp2p and is therefore weaker - it just isn't possible.

Purity isn't an intrinsic quality of an individual MDMA molecule. Purity is an emergent quality that is only seen when you're talking about a large group of molecules, and how many of those molecules are something other than the molecule you're looking for.

I'm not saying anyone is lying, I'm just saying that somehow this story has gotten crossed up. Thizzer said this GC/MS report came from another customer, so it seems plausible that between whoever gave the trip report for the 250mg, whoever produced it, whoever did this report, SOMEBODY's story has gotten mixed up with another's.
 
It's water under the bridge to be completely honest. This new batch of brown sugar is so beyond killer it blows most molly out of the water.
 
I'll definitely agree with the bit about how brown-colored can be just as good or better than white. I'm in the "my best molly ever was sand-colored" club too.
 
I dosed a buddy of mine last night with 160mg of the brown sugar and he texted me saying "this is about two steps down from losing my virginity"

We were both pleased =D
 
I have always found that it is better to get powder instead of the pills. Cause with the pills, you don't know usually what you are getting, or even what its made with. The powdered molly that I've been getting as of late is brown, very much so like brown sugar and it tastes horrible too. But it has been the best stuff I've ever had. I'm even comparing it to the first time I ever dosed too.
 
Its actually a lot easier to cut molly seeing as any shmo could just add an inert powder to a dose without you knowing, where as you have to be able to press a pill to cut it.

If you know the right molly people though, you'll never want to touch pills again. Thats where I stand, I dont roll if its not molly nowdays.
 
Any one ever see or obtain MDMA that looks like insanely bomb bubble hash? I mean the fist time my buddy whipped the bag out. I was like oh shit likes smoke. And he kinda just laughed and told me to smell it, lol.
It smelt STRONG, almost burnt it. And the taste test was pretty wild. A sharp pain when hitting the tongue that burst into bitterness all over. That lasted for about a min. Then where I had dropped a little shard on my tongue, it was numb for about 10mins.

Anyways shit like this is floating around my circles. And I can't wait til Halloween to give this bloody moon rock a shot. =D
 
99% MDMA that I had seen when I was younger was a crystalline white solid. There is brownish stuff of reasonably high quality, but I doubt the end consumer can even tell the difference between 90% MDMA and 99% MDMA. I mean, a 120mg dose of 90% MDMA is 108mg... Anyone who has worked with pure MDMA will tell you that it's probably difficult to discern between those amounts because they will both be strong doses.

I wouldn't take brown MDMA because God knows what weird conjugated impurities are lurking inside it, but I suppose most drug users don't really care (I wouldn't take pure MDMA either though; it's a neurotoxin!).
 
I don't mind a little brown if it's crystalline rocks and shards. I'd be very wary of powder and stuff that looks like hash though. :\
 
I'm curious about what would cause the MDMA powder to be that brown. I've had 99.99% MDMA (was lucky enough to know the guy directly) powder before and that, like most other lab powders, was very white and crystaline.

How are people measuring doses out? Eyeball, scale?

There's been some "molly" around here, but it seems to be comprised of a variety of things. I know i've detected amphetamines, 2C-B, and caffeine as adulterants for sure. I did another review elsewhere, but i had some green Paul Franks the other weekend and they were very clean. It was a welcome surprise to have the empathogenic effects be on the forefront of our experience.
 
At least where I'm located I can't find molly at all. At pretty much all the events the people selling are selling garbage and don't care that they are selling garbage. 99% of people who're at these events have never done mdma so they don't know the difference. I was blessed with pure mdma over a year ago and I learned what it's like. My source ran dry so I tried looking for new mdma and it just can't be had in my area. Either it's not around or the people who have it aren't interested in distributing it to anyone but their own circles.
 
While I can't attest as to the % purity, there has been some very good molly around this area. Pure white, almost looks moist. The bag I saw had a couple large chunks, but they were soft enough to be broken up by hand. 125 mg (measured using 1/32 tsp spoon) was enough to have a good strong roll for others- it took me a little more though.
 
NYC area is a desert...VERY hard to get clean bombs and the molly I had this past weekend was piperazine. Got some clean low dose purple lips, but getting high dose clean bombs or pure molly is impossible. Need to move to Cali...the reports from there make me drool.

Got some incredible molly this time last year and had the connect for about 2 months, but then it turned to piperazine. :-<
 
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