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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 1)

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Check the Big and Dandy Scale Thread... there is also an old overgrown archived version linked to from the first post of the thread I've linked to. There's a lot of discussion about where to buy them and how much they cost, and whether or not they're any good, and techniques for using a cheap mg scale.

Personally, I find that it's important to use them a certain way for them to be accurate. You need to make a tray first, or use the tray that comes with, depending on the brand. Put the tray (folded paperboard or something) on the scale... it will read something, perhaps a gram, maybe 2045mg (what my tray weighs). LEAVE IT THERE, DO NOT TARE IT. For some reason these scales are not good at picking up tiny measurements. If you have the scale at 0 and you try to weigh 20mg, or 100mg, it will be inaccurate. But if you weigh out the material on top of the tray, you can subtract the difference between the new measurement and the old one with just the tray. So let's say your tray weighs 2045mg by itself. You then put on some powder, and it reads 2139. You subtract them and find that the weight of the powder was 2139 - 2045 = 94mg. This way, even if you used a super sensitive scale for $500 and found out that tray plus the powder actually weighs 2187 instead of 2139, it doesn't matter because you were using relative measurements to get the difference between the two... if you used the expensive scale and the tray alone read 2093 instead of 2045, and with the powder it weighed 2187 instead of 2139, you'd still subtract 2187 - 2093 = 94mg.

Get it? There's tricks to using cheap mg scales effectively but they can be pretty effective until you get to substances where every mg matters (like DOXs and some of the potent 2C-Xs).
 
Nope, that's how cheap scales work. They're not really designed to weigh tiny amounts because they're for gemstones. So they're not very accurate at all at very little weight but when they get an actual amount of weight on them they're pretty accurate.
 
Can anyone yet give a detailed description of the powder. The colour, texture, taste and smell. Any pictures? Ive looked but cant find any. Would help in identifying what turns up on my doorstep!! :)
 
This substance is 6-APB, NOT 6-APDB, which it was at first incorrectly labeled as.
 
Okay, I have posted this in every Big and Dandy and I'm also going to post it here since I just added 6-APB and a few others to the survey.

PLEASE, if you have tried 6-APB, fill out my survey I'm about to describe and link to? And if you get a chance I'd like for you to also fill it out for any other psychedelic you've done. Thanks!

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I wanted to take a minute to let everyone know in each of the substance Big and Dandies about the community project of the PD forum which has been being worked on for the past 2 years or so, the Psychedelic Effects Profile survey. This survey asks you a number of questions, starting with the substance taken, the dose, the method of administration, other substances (non-psychedelic) ingested during the trip, and set and setting, and then it goes on to ask about a variety of specific effects, and you can select whether or not you experienced them and if so, the intensity level of that effect on a 5-point scale.

Thank you for your help with this! For this to be of any use whatsoever, we need as many responses as we can possibly get, so please take it as many times as you have time for, for as many substances as you have had proper trips on. We want to gather the full range of effects possible so feel free to take it for positive as well as negative experiences, for earth-shattering and average. Each time taking the survey is for a single trip on a single substance - no combinations please, as it taints the data for each substance. In the future I may make another survey for combinations. The survey takes about 5 minutes to get through so it's not too much of your time.

(You can report on combinations, just not combinations with other psychedelics)

For further discussion of this project, please see the stickied thread at the top of the forum that starts with "Community Project". To take the survey, please click on this link: http://freeonlinesurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp?sid=hvw6fx9mmvzz82l599169

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Anybody got any thoughts about toxicity, both short and long term? Sounds like one to keep an eye on, but I'm still very wary given how new it is.
 
So hows it goin MeDieViL?

Didnt feel much from the 50mg, took the rest and its starting to come up%) (i was being overly cautious because of the psychedelic thing, but i'm sure i'm gonna have a good time)
 
Took a friend from the hospital about 5 hours ago. Already feeling better. Here's a little paranoid, holding his heart, wants to hear the pulse, is afraid that stop. Previously, he had no experience with psychedelic, but he said that the effects were strong.
All these 5 hours trying to go to the toilet shit, but it does not work. Now again he went to the toilet ..
I handed out samples of their many customers, they tried everything from 50 to 100 ml, they all liked, say at mefedrone, not worse
 
@CocoJombo - Glad your friend is ok - been similar situation myself when no f*cker gave a shit so its good he has mates like you to look after him. Tell him hell be fine and in a few days he will be laughing about what happened !! ( But tell him not to go so crazy with the stuff next time ok)


Hey MeDieViL have a good one mate...Ill read what you have to say tomorrow. F*ck I want some NOW !!!!!!!! :):):)
 
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Same here MeDieViL, looking forward to hearing how you got on. Happy tripping and goodnight from me :)
 
thx guys:) i'm feeling really great now! no visuals to speak off, but not companing:D
 
I have been through all the 6-APB threads and apologies if one has already been posted but is someone able to post a pic of this stuff. I have received my sample and just want to be sure it is what I believe it to be. I wouldn't say my sample is tan as such. I'd describe it as cream to tan coloured but it is not a strong colour, it is fairly subtle. Does this sound like the real deal to u guys? Also I did an allergy test today and it tasted bitter- is this correct? I also bombed a small amount too- enough to test to make sure it's not naphyrone but no where near enough to be threshold for 6-APB. If anyone could explain how to upload photos onto here I'll upload a photo of my sample to compare against. Cheers for the help guys.
 
Anybody got any thoughts about toxicity, both short and long term? Sounds like one to keep an eye on, but I'm still very wary given how new it is.

hepatotoxicity might be an issue. refer to the 3rd (or so) page of the thread for more info.
i guess i'll buy when it becomes available and then store it in the freezer for some time until more research gets in :\
 
100mg was a good dose for me although would have happily gone a tad higher. Others have found as little as 50mg to be a strong dose so I'd recommend not going too high initially. Can always take more and all that.
 
Back on topic though... The Occasional Mrs Shambles was nigh-on drooling when I explained the effects to her yesterday. Am slightly torn between using the rest of my sample myself to explore various ROA and so on as planned or to split it with her and explore the more empathogenic and (ideally) the sensual side of it. As the "release date" is so nearly upon us I may be a lil drugpiglet and do it myself and get a couple of the pills/pellets to play with Mrs Shambles with...

Decisions, decisions... And such damnably delicious decisions too =D
 
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Aww I really need to try this.

One question I have: nobody feel any 'MDMA nostalgia'? As in that strong desire to trip again soon. I think it's safe to say there's no compulsive redosing stuff (that's where mephedrone got messy for me, and my self controll is awful).

Also, to people who have snorted this stuff, is it unpleasant? Burning, or coke numbness? I think I would try the oral method as recommended, though...
 
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