Its not hysteria its media hype. Journalists are people that write to make a living and there is a good story running around so journalists write...just like birds that flap their wings for a living.
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The Mephedrone Thread (4-mmc)
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Its not hysteria its media hype. Journalists are people that write to make a living and there is a good story running around so journalists write...just like birds that flap their wings for a living.
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I think thats what Bicuit meant, Hysteria caused by media hype 
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ok my 4mmc/meow experience: (dont care if you want it or not haha)
Ok so i first found out about this through a friend of a friend that same person told me about neo organics which i had and were to be honest better than any night ive ever had on any pills which is quiet a few.. although we did have about 7 capsules each over 24 hours but i did work the next day and did not come down until the following day.
So i first ordered 10grams of this stuff very sceptical to it actually arriving or not as after i paid i had not had any contact with said supplier in over 2 weeks which they normally replied in a day or two.. so i ended up giving up on it, then one day at work i checked my email and to my surprise i had an email saying sorry about the delay etc it will be shipped today...
I was very happy lol, It didnt even take that long it was here the following week (late) but i missed it and couldnt get until monday.
As i had never taken this before i started with a dose of about 100mg on a Monday night while playing some NBA 2010 on xbox, i consumed in a capsule (i just emptied some fibre capsules) and i must say i felt it come on within about 15-20 minutes, i became very euphoric and god like as i did not hand the xbox controller over once as i was just unstoppable in ufc and nba haha, my missus put dinner in front of me and i could not have a bar of it...
Went to bed pretty late didnt get much sleep that night obviously i was only sampling at these stage as it was a week night im not hardcoreee!
So friday came around and i didnt have any plans on going out or anything but i must say it was a fucken great night in with me and my missus, every weekend for 4 weekends after i hit the old meow meow having does of about 200-250mgs usually avg about 3 does anight, all weekends i was lucky to get to sleep sunday and i did need help with some doses of codeine to help me mellow out....
The come down is a pretty rough ride with out any help but other than that ive had some great times on this stuff and i have found no side effects to date and personally with the amount of shit pills and other stuff going around this would have to be by favourite thing to splurge on to date.
P.S i did feel i was a little more paranoid than usual as i found it a little harder than normal to open up in public (i.e dancing in clubs) which on a good solid mdma pill i wouldnt care what people thought (id be doin star jumps), i still didnt care but i just had this feeling of 'im gonna get in a fight' cause i thought so many guys were eyeing me off.
Anyways have a good1 all
Ok so i first found out about this through a friend of a friend that same person told me about neo organics which i had and were to be honest better than any night ive ever had on any pills which is quiet a few.. although we did have about 7 capsules each over 24 hours but i did work the next day and did not come down until the following day.
So i first ordered 10grams of this stuff very sceptical to it actually arriving or not as after i paid i had not had any contact with said supplier in over 2 weeks which they normally replied in a day or two.. so i ended up giving up on it, then one day at work i checked my email and to my surprise i had an email saying sorry about the delay etc it will be shipped today...
I was very happy lol, It didnt even take that long it was here the following week (late) but i missed it and couldnt get until monday.
As i had never taken this before i started with a dose of about 100mg on a Monday night while playing some NBA 2010 on xbox, i consumed in a capsule (i just emptied some fibre capsules) and i must say i felt it come on within about 15-20 minutes, i became very euphoric and god like as i did not hand the xbox controller over once as i was just unstoppable in ufc and nba haha, my missus put dinner in front of me and i could not have a bar of it...
Went to bed pretty late didnt get much sleep that night obviously i was only sampling at these stage as it was a week night im not hardcoreee
!So friday came around and i didnt have any plans on going out or anything but i must say it was a fucken great night in with me and my missus, every weekend for 4 weekends after i hit the old meow meow having does of about 200-250mgs usually avg about 3 does anight, all weekends i was lucky to get to sleep sunday and i did need help with some doses of codeine to help me mellow out....
The come down is a pretty rough ride with out any help but other than that ive had some great times on this stuff and i have found no side effects to date and personally with the amount of shit pills and other stuff going around this would have to be by favourite thing to splurge on to date.
P.S i did feel i was a little more paranoid than usual as i found it a little harder than normal to open up in public (i.e dancing in clubs) which on a good solid mdma pill i wouldnt care what people thought (id be doin star jumps), i still didnt care but i just had this feeling of 'im gonna get in a fight' cause i thought so many guys were eyeing me off.
Anyways have a good1 all
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would having a combo (not necesarrily together and right away, but on the same night) of mephedrone, crystal meth and MDMA be potentially dangerous? Most likely it would increase irreversible neurotoxicity in the brain right? But what about chances of seizures or psychosis?
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I did a few lines of mephedrone with a moon mda pill a few months ago and found it was pretty good. Not too much as I didn't want it to over power the pill.
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Dosing MDMA and Meph is under the general consensus across the board as being a waste of MDMA. MDMA and Meth is a HIGHLY neuro-toxic combination and with mephs toxicity still unknown it would be VERY unwise to throw that in there as well.
Also Meph and Meth are both very cardio-toxic drugs, watch your dose and keep an eye on you're heart rate and blood pressure when combining the two.
However I have combined high dose meth with arfound ~250mg Meph (a bottle lid full) shortly after. Found it to be very enjoyable but with a very harsh and paranoid come down.
Unless you experience psychosis with any of these drugs alone, the risk isn't that much more.
I would be far more worried about a heart attack than a seizure if I was you.
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^^Great post mate.
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Yeah - depending on how big (or small) your stim tolerance is.... you'd be wanting not to overdo it for your ticker!!
I've had moments where I was certain I was going to have a heart attack, lol, from having ingested waaaaay too much meth. or what I perceived to be way too much
Also forgot to mention, they talked about online drug forums on the segment lol... and how 4mmc has (apparently) become the hottest topic amongst users worldwide over the past few years
I've had moments where I was certain I was going to have a heart attack, lol, from having ingested waaaaay too much meth. or what I perceived to be way too much
Also forgot to mention, they talked about online drug forums on the segment lol... and how 4mmc has (apparently) become the hottest topic amongst users worldwide over the past few years
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Thanks VeryBuffed.
Hottest new topic maybe. The lack of MDMA would be the hottest topic.
Watch out it isn't anxiety causing shallower breathes Hyroller. I hyperventilate quite often without any drugs from my anxiety without realizing. Concentrate on deep breathing for 5 mins and you'll feel heaps better. Well IME.
And meth is nothing on heart attack scares, my first time with meph was 300mg followed by getting piped. NO ONE COMBINE THESE TWO. Me and my friend, same dose both had to lay down with chest pains from heart rate being so high and too scared of moving for fear of setting off a heart attack. Was the closest I've ever been to calling an ambulance.
Hottest new topic maybe. The lack of MDMA would be the hottest topic.
Watch out it isn't anxiety causing shallower breathes Hyroller. I hyperventilate quite often without any drugs from my anxiety without realizing. Concentrate on deep breathing for 5 mins and you'll feel heaps better. Well IME.
And meth is nothing on heart attack scares, my first time with meph was 300mg followed by getting piped. NO ONE COMBINE THESE TWO. Me and my friend, same dose both had to lay down with chest pains from heart rate being so high and too scared of moving for fear of setting off a heart attack. Was the closest I've ever been to calling an ambulance.
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more shit dribbling
update on some more well i dont know if you would call them side effects or whatever but heres somethings that have happened since i last posted:
I have now been using 4mmc for about id say this is the 6th week on fridays/sats ive gone through about 10g's since then (share with missus she only has about 150-200mgs a night as shes a lightweight).
ok so regarding the breathing/heartattack issue, im 6'4 and around 115-120kgs so im a big lad, i dont smoke at all (maybe a bum suck here and there if im off chops) but i just can not enhale its fucked. More to the Point my lungs are great. -- to be continued in my story im bored, onto my last 3 capsuls and havnt slept since fri and should be at work so im gonna make the most of my story writing times as no-one is home to talk to! CHEERS
note: Capsules contain on avg about 220mg
Stayed at the hyatt last saturday i dropped a capsule at about 2pm on the drive to check-in, tried to hide the fact that i did from my missus but it wasnt too long after (20-25mins) that i was on the phone to pricks i hadnt spoke to in ages dribbling shit.
Got to city around 3pm checked in and did the usual check the room suss the $7 bottles of water in the mini fridge (bloody more than a ac/dc gig).
Had abit of time to kill as it was me and my partners anniversary i called reception and arranged for a balinese fully body massage for her, and soon enough a little azn bird rolled in with her table etc..
as i sat and watched i began to contimplate the right way to go about scoring a 3some, JUST KIDDING LOL, im in love. moving on so we went down to the bar on adelaide terrace to have a drink as we had dinner reservatons in 20, I honestly dont know what i was thinking even going to dinner as we both knew eating wasnt gonna happen but i decided i wanted to anyway cause we hadnt gone out to dinner in a while, oh how i regreted that, they sat us right in the middle of everyone, frying pan eyes, the waitress comes up to take our order and as she begins i got abit of a kick and i couldnt even speak properly she was looking at me like what the fuck, anywho ended up going with lemon chicken and soup for the missus (she thought it might go down) (it did not). ended up asking for the cheque and for some reason i tipped $20 for 65bux worth of food that hardly got touched (i dont normally tip but i did) could already feel the down as it has been atleast 3 hours since i last dropped so we went back to our room and this time i pulled out a capsule that was almost full around 380mgs id say, popped that bad boy like it was a green tea tablet and off i went dribbling shit, (HERES WHERE THE CHEST/BREATHING PART COMES INTO IT) all of a sudden i just stopped talking because the sound of my heart pumping and thumping against my chest was intense like never before, it was great what a rush going out in style i thought, haha- Nah i started to slow my breating down and take really deep breaths like putting my loungs to work, my recipe for anything bad is a cold shower and i hope it works cause the only way im going to a hospital is on my back hate those places so sad and gloomy. Anyways the night was great alot of fun as you can imagine what two 21 year olds on drugs and in a hotel would get up to (CUDDLING YEEOW).
Sorry for spilling on peepz but its kept me amused (may pay to skip straight here for relevant information re m-cat)
Most common effects: - Headache (Could be from many of things lack of sleep/jaw grinding etc. - fix i found codeine forts or tramadol helps and also will help in getting some shut eye.
- Paranoia, No idea im not normally paranoid but i turn into one of those people who checks the window if i hear a car that could be 5 streets away.
- Release of bottaly fluids - Ok so both me and my partner have found that when using this stuff it makes you go to the toilet very often for both 1s and 2s in someway it feels like its compleltly flushing your system , (weight flucation after taking was as abig as 6-7kgs over a two day period.
-White tongue/under my lip all purple and has this wierd line of skin and same on both my cheeks (i have no idea what the fuck is going with my mouth haha) p.s it aint from chewing my tounge or aynthing so im still workin on why it hapens
- Chest pains (Next day normally when ive slept and woken up.
- and last but not least- its great and very adddddictive haha, too bad im out soon!
peace out a-town
update on some more well i dont know if you would call them side effects or whatever but heres somethings that have happened since i last posted:
I have now been using 4mmc for about id say this is the 6th week on fridays/sats ive gone through about 10g's since then (share with missus she only has about 150-200mgs a night as shes a lightweight).
ok so regarding the breathing/heartattack issue, im 6'4 and around 115-120kgs so im a big lad, i dont smoke at all (maybe a bum suck here and there if im off chops) but i just can not enhale its fucked. More to the Point my lungs are great. -- to be continued in my story im bored, onto my last 3 capsuls and havnt slept since fri
and should be at work so im gonna make the most of my story writing times as no-one is home to talk to! CHEERSnote: Capsules contain on avg about 220mg
Stayed at the hyatt last saturday i dropped a capsule at about 2pm on the drive to check-in, tried to hide the fact that i did from my missus but it wasnt too long after (20-25mins) that i was on the phone to pricks i hadnt spoke to in ages dribbling shit.
Got to city around 3pm checked in and did the usual check the room suss the $7 bottles of water in the mini fridge (bloody more than a ac/dc gig).
Had abit of time to kill as it was me and my partners anniversary i called reception and arranged for a balinese fully body massage for her, and soon enough a little azn bird rolled in with her table etc..
as i sat and watched i began to contimplate the right way to go about scoring a 3some, JUST KIDDING LOL, im in love. moving on so we went down to the bar on adelaide terrace to have a drink as we had dinner reservatons in 20, I honestly dont know what i was thinking even going to dinner as we both knew eating wasnt gonna happen but i decided i wanted to anyway cause we hadnt gone out to dinner in a while, oh how i regreted that, they sat us right in the middle of everyone, frying pan eyes, the waitress comes up to take our order and as she begins i got abit of a kick and i couldnt even speak properly she was looking at me like what the fuck, anywho ended up going with lemon chicken and soup for the missus (she thought it might go down) (it did not). ended up asking for the cheque and for some reason i tipped $20 for 65bux worth of food that hardly got touched (i dont normally tip but i did) could already feel the down as it has been atleast 3 hours since i last dropped so we went back to our room and this time i pulled out a capsule that was almost full around 380mgs id say, popped that bad boy like it was a green tea tablet and off i went dribbling shit, (HERES WHERE THE CHEST/BREATHING PART COMES INTO IT) all of a sudden i just stopped talking because the sound of my heart pumping and thumping against my chest was intense like never before, it was great what a rush going out in style i thought, haha- Nah i started to slow my breating down and take really deep breaths like putting my loungs to work, my recipe for anything bad is a cold shower and i hope it works cause the only way im going to a hospital is on my back hate those places so sad and gloomy. Anyways the night was great alot of fun as you can imagine what two 21 year olds on drugs and in a hotel would get up to (CUDDLING YEEOW).
Sorry for spilling on peepz but its kept me amused (may pay to skip straight here for relevant information re m-cat)
Most common effects: - Headache (Could be from many of things lack of sleep/jaw grinding etc. - fix i found codeine forts or tramadol helps and also will help in getting some shut eye.
- Paranoia, No idea im not normally paranoid but i turn into one of those people who checks the window if i hear a car that could be 5 streets away.
- Release of bottaly fluids - Ok so both me and my partner have found that when using this stuff it makes you go to the toilet very often for both 1s and 2s in someway it feels like its compleltly flushing your system , (weight flucation after taking was as abig as 6-7kgs over a two day period.
-White tongue/under my lip all purple and has this wierd line of skin and same on both my cheeks (i have no idea what the fuck is going with my mouth haha) p.s it aint from chewing my tounge or aynthing so im still workin on why it hapens
- Chest pains (Next day normally when ive slept and woken up.
- and last but not least- its great and very adddddictive haha, too bad im out soon!
peace out a-town
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The first one I get alot from mephedrone (used to get it with the neo-doves too). i usually get bad sotmach cramps and really bad gas. Unforunately the gas is accompanied by me shitting water, so I have to go to the toilet every hour or so after the meph wears off. It really sucks.
The white tongue is symptomatic of you being badly dehydrated. The other stuff probably is too - particularly considering you have large loss of weight. Remember to drink plenty of water. lay off the booze too as this will dehydrate you worse.
I also have got chest pains. this is the most worrying part for me.
I don't touch meph anymore. haven't for 2 months now. Part of the reason was because a friend got busted. the other reason is because of the side effects and how morish i felt it to be. I felt like i was sacrificing my dignity begging mates for another line.
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Yeah the chest pains go away im not to worried, although last too days i hit it pretty hard over 1g easily, i had to really stop my self cause as the doses wore off i started to feel shit and i didnt wanna feel like that haha, but then i got a feed (mad dawg pretzel) but it was so hard to chew lol feeling bit better now.
Yeah drink heaps of water normally but just keep pissing it out, i guess im always gonna prefer mdma/x than this but price was you cant beat it
i thought i was going crazy today lol, first night my missus had this stuff, i left her in the bathroom after an allnighter and she said she was just trying to find pimples, i tell you now she has no pimples she see's blackheads that are 2mm under the skin.. but i was out in the lounge and i realized she had been in there for a while, when i walked in there i was fucken like wtf, she had these tweezers and had picked about 7 holes in her face, and about 20 over her body... i grabbed the tweezers and was just like what the FUCK are you doing, and she didnt even realize what she had done... i was peaking out thought she lost the plot but she was back to normal etc after a sleep.
Yeah drink heaps of water normally but just keep pissing it out, i guess im always gonna prefer mdma/x than this but price was you cant beat it
i thought i was going crazy today lol, first night my missus had this stuff, i left her in the bathroom after an allnighter and she said she was just trying to find pimples, i tell you now she has no pimples she see's blackheads that are 2mm under the skin.. but i was out in the lounge and i realized she had been in there for a while, when i walked in there i was fucken like wtf, she had these tweezers and had picked about 7 holes in her face, and about 20 over her body... i grabbed the tweezers and was just like what the FUCK are you doing, and she didnt even realize what she had done... i was peaking out thought she lost the plot but she was back to normal etc after a sleep.
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This may sound out whack but 4mmc i feel like something overwrites my brain or tricks me into not knowing how to sleep lol its fucked 72 hours i dont feel tired but i know my bodys gonna be feeling it in the morning at work. (i can sleep off good quality pills, not when im peaking obviously.)
another thing ive noticed is that it doesnt effect me like mdma/x does sexually, i do enjoy it more than mdma though, in generally it just takes any intimacy to the next level, makes me feel like a one of those blokes off the cover of those korny romance novels lol just way more passionate and into it and the end result is much more intense. It also doesnt actually stop me from reaching climax as where if i double or triple id probably drown in my own sweat before i could finish lol been more than a few occasions where ive just given up lol. still get the shrivles though. thats the funniest thing if no one warns the first time you have speed/pills/meph id pay to see there face when they go for a piss lol
another thing ive noticed is that it doesnt effect me like mdma/x does sexually, i do enjoy it more than mdma though, in generally it just takes any intimacy to the next level, makes me feel like a one of those blokes off the cover of those korny romance novels lol just way more passionate and into it and the end result is much more intense. It also doesnt actually stop me from reaching climax as where if i double or triple id probably drown in my own sweat before i could finish lol been more than a few occasions where ive just given up lol. still get the shrivles though. thats the funniest thing if no one warns the first time you have speed/pills/meph id pay to see there face when they go for a piss lol
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Go easy on the meph dude, I think its time this one gets a re-post.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/4_methylmethcathinone/4_methylmethcathinone_health1.shtml
Whilst it's heaps of fun it can do serious damage. I'm only saying this, because you have only had four posts and they have all been on this thread, so I don't know if you have read through it and understand how bad it is when you take higher doses. and also redosing in days is very bad, I personally know someone who ended up in hospital less then a week ago from re-dosing in a few days.
You sound like you got it good right now man, money for drugs, good gf to do them with. Don't be silly and abuse the meph!
Party safe.
Go easy on the meph dude, I think its time this one gets a re-post.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/4_methylmethcathinone/4_methylmethcathinone_health1.shtml
Whilst it's heaps of fun it can do serious damage. I'm only saying this, because you have only had four posts and they have all been on this thread, so I don't know if you have read through it and understand how bad it is when you take higher doses. and also redosing in days is very bad, I personally know someone who ended up in hospital less then a week ago from re-dosing in a few days.
You sound like you got it good right now man, money for drugs, good gf to do them with. Don't be silly and abuse the meph!
Party safe.
^ I agree. It shits me how crazy people can go on substances, especially when they are new and cheap. People end up getting their picture on the front of the local paper, for all the wrong reasons, and ruining it for the rest of us.
380mg of this drug at once is idiocy, no matter how big you are.
Be sensible. For all of us.
380mg of this drug at once is idiocy, no matter how big you are.
Be sensible. For all of us.
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