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The Big & Dandy 'Memory and Psychedelics' Thread

yeah ive had this on 4 hits of the cleanest, nd strongest acid ive ever eaten. i would consider that a bad trip, nd ever since mind i tried steering away from cid. i had forgotten everything about myself, my life, my being nd i forgot how to talk. seaming as i didn't know who i was i didnt know waht i was supposed to talk like. eventually i took acid again and i figured everything out, ever since then ive never had a bad trip.

its all a mind game, iwould recomend if u trip blow some stimies nd figure it all out. its easy trippin' from there on

lsd's main characteristics is confusion, it can nd will confuse ppl. taking too much of it makes you legally crazy, nd confused. just keep that in mind.
 
pseudononamouse said:
I think memory loss depends on the dosage and the particular drug. However, having no clue what the hell a drug is will (almost?) certainly happen on a strong dose. It is not a good idea to be this way in public.

Also, ego loss does not mean out of body experience. If you have no idea what a drug is, you probably have no idea what a person is either. By extension, you would have no idea what you are. That is ego loss.
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THats weird. I think I've had partial ego loss but It would feel weird to have absolutely noooo Idea what the fuck you are, how you got there, and what is going on. Like you suddenly were just born into a place or time, or more likely, a bizarre state since you wouldn't know what either of the two are.
 
LabRatNW said:
The difference between even 50ug and 100ug of LSD is astounding. If the sugar cubes you took were strong, you may have taken as much as 2-300ug of LSD and just not prepared yourself to be that "gone" so to speak. I know when I end up dosing more than I had intended (intentionally or otherwise), it ALWAYS makes the trip harder to handle.

I had a 2g trip of mushies that was more intense than any time Ive taken a single dose before or since. I wasn't prepared for it and curled up in front of a loud stereo under some blankets and let Infected Mushroom help me out.
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50mcg? Do people consider that a dose? That couldn't possibly do anything besides make u feel sorta funny and not realize why, accept you do, because you took 50 mcg of acid. 100mcg is still a small dose. Really, you don't get a decent dose until at least 150mcg. 150-250 is considered a light medium to medium dose. 250ish+ tends to be considered a high dose. Over 3-400 or more is EXTREME for MOST(the general population included in this) people although there are some out there that enjoy it. 500-100 is fucking knarley. 1000+is insane. Not only do you feel insane probably in some way, You are insane(not in a bad way) to ever take that much. THat is just really really really ridiculous. Some people do do thumbprints and who knows how many milligrams is in one of those. I cant even imagnine the insanity!


Anyway the dosages up to about 600mcg are an approximation of what I head stan Graf say from his experience in LSD psychotherapy. He said that many of the therapy sessions were conducted in sterile uncomfortable environments AND, random volunteers would be given 600 or even sometimes 800mcg. They were overwhelmed, had trouble, talking or even functioning and often didn't report any therapeutic effects.

Most likely, there were dosed way to high and while some could integrate the experience, most as first time or new trippers just had no idea what the fuck was happening.
 
450mcg got me to a confused state.. all though nothing that made me concerned about as I was aware it was the drug...and I made sure what ever state my mind went into I would enjoy and let it be a new experience.

Here are two things that come to mind I usually remember in any state:
Positive Vibes create a good time... so create positive energy anyhow you know to make things good, even if it starts with a smile.
If I ever start dwelling on negative vibes / thoughts.... I know immediately to put the mind into active mode again... so do something that distracts you away from the things that you don't need to think about. Don't want to go down a negative rabbit hole...been there quite a few times.
 
eat real clean acid. the whole point of an acid trip is to find out about yourself nd learn.
i figured i got so far out of reality, i just could;t get back. until my trip was done.

thats why acids not for the weak mind.
 
nickbrochilll said:
yeah ive had this on 4 hits of the cleanest, nd strongest acid ive ever eaten. i would consider that a bad trip, nd ever since mind i tried steering away from cid. i had forgotten everything about myself, my life, my being nd i forgot how to talk. seaming as i didn't know who i was i didnt know waht i was supposed to talk like. eventually i took acid again and i figured everything out, ever since then ive never had a bad trip.

its all a mind game, iwould recomend if u trip blow some stimies nd figure it all out. its easy trippin' from there on

lsd's main characteristics is confusion, it can nd will confuse ppl. taking too much of it makes you legally crazy, nd confused. just keep that in mind.
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It is only a bad trip if you make it a bad trip.
 
drazzilB said:
Yeah that sums up what was going on in my head pretty well, it's just weird that all my friends were fine, two of which it was their first time. I guess different things affect different people differently....
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Reading your original post was like looking at myself 3 years ago.

I was pretty much in the exact same circumstance of events my first few initial times on LSD. I was also (out of my group) the person who would research the substance's and provide facts to my friends.. i'm certain this characteristic plays a major role in the thought looping and looking for the answer and consequently the ego-loss.. as you are already an inquisitive person.
 
I had a traumatic (mainly induction to the peak) experience of ego-loss at far too young an age, on LSD + cannabis. From ~4 days later to 1.5 months, I repressed the memory of what exactly scared me (disillusion of self, time, space, and logic) until it resurfaced while on cannabis. Even afterwards, I can't quite remember the exact state, as it was too alien.

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Memory and Psychedelics

Weigh in here. How do you think your usage of psychedelics has affected your overall shorterm intermediate and longterm memory? Has it improved access and recall speed or reduced it etc...

I feel like so far there has been little effect on short and intermediate memory but if anything positive in that I can remember things better without having to associate them as strongly. As far as long term memory, I remember things I never would have if it wasn't for psyches... How about u?
 
When ive been tripping before it has triggered memories I had long forgotten...like of childhood and such. But I dunno about any long or short term memory affects after it.
 
I use too many other substances to be able to comment objectively.
 
It's really hard to say since I've been using them through a period of mental development, late teens.

Me bet though is that they don't do much by themselves except give a psychedelic episode.
 
The only effects on memory from psychedelics I have noticed is that AMT impairs short-term memory while tripping.
 
i've not noticed any effect on memory, but when i was tripping more often i had some difficulties when having to judge the length of a timespan accurately.
 
Black said:
i've not noticed any effect on memory, but when i was tripping more often i had some difficulties when having to judge the length of a timespan accurately.
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yeh. It seems like if I look at a clock time is going by uncomfortably slow. If I don't two hours will go by in what seems like 5 minutes. Its weird!
 
while on LSD my short term memory is non existent, i'll go to do something and completey forget what i'm doing, long term i couldn't say
 
I don't think my long-term memory has been influenced directly by psychedelic use.

As for memory on psychedelics or, even more to the point, of psychedelic trips, I think Freud's interpretation of psychotic memory is valuable here. When the normal symbolic functioning of the ego is sufficiently disrupted that normal egoic processes and methods of making sense of the world are not functioning, this difference in mental state becomes a sort of resistant barrier both ways for memory formation. It is difficult to recall precise memories of events that occurred in alternate states (including sober experiences while tripping as well as trips while sober). In addition to drug use, this is significant in psychoanalysis because various psychoses and neuroses are essentially explained as altered states much like drug experiences (albeit with differing causes and, typically, much longer duration that does not end until the cause is resolved).

This helps explain why it can be difficult to explain or even properly recall intense psychedelic experiences. It also helps explain why psychedelics can bring other repressed experiences to the forefront; traumatic memories often follow the same formula, left unresolved mentally because they cannot be recalled precisely. Any sufficiently altered state might allow these repressed memories to surface. Combine that with the breaking down of other ego barriers that normally censor repressed memories and you have a recipe for recalling traumatic or otherwise intense memories. IMHO, this is why psychedelics are so valuable for analysis, and also why they pose risks to already unstable individuals.
 
solistus said:
I don't think my long-term memory has been influenced directly by psychedelic use.

As for memory on psychedelics or, even more to the point, of psychedelic trips, I think Freud's interpretation of psychotic memory is valuable here. When the normal symbolic functioning of the ego is sufficiently disrupted that normal egoic processes and methods of making sense of the world are not functioning, this difference in mental state becomes a sort of resistant barrier both ways for memory formation. It is difficult to recall precise memories of events that occurred in alternate states (including sober experiences while tripping as well as trips while sober). In addition to drug use, this is significant in psychoanalysis because various psychoses and neuroses are essentially explained as altered states much like drug experiences (albeit with differing causes and, typically, much longer duration that does not end until the cause is resolved).

This helps explain why it can be difficult to explain or even properly recall intense psychedelic experiences. It also helps explain why psychedelics can bring other repressed experiences to the forefront; traumatic memories often follow the same formula, left unresolved mentally because they cannot be recalled precisely. Any sufficiently altered state might allow these repressed memories to surface. Combine that with the breaking down of other ego barriers that normally censor repressed memories and you have a recipe for recalling traumatic or otherwise intense memories. IMHO, this is why psychedelics are so valuable for analysis, and also why they pose risks to already unstable individuals.
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idk. I can have pretty good medium and long term memory on psychedelic trips as well as pretty detailed memories of the trip. I took a quad of shrooms once and have a pretty good memory of it down to what music i listened too, what events took place, some things i imagined etc...
 
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