Harm Reduction New! - Cold Water Extraction Mega Thread & FAQ

[Toela65]

Right all done.

Both galsses are Murky and have some powdery residue floating around at the bottom of the glass, I would not say solids at all, just whats at the bottom of the glass when you take an Alka-Seltzer lol!!

I s'pose you're never gonna get rid of all the APAP anyway.

 

[Free_Man**]

Yes it did hence the regathering of the seperate filters, cooling and re-filtering.

Its a good job I did this as the filter that was filled second (so got what was at the bottom of the glass) has just finished and when I rtemoved the filter, gave it a squeeze for the last dregs of water, and then opened it up, there was HUGE clump of APAP in there which is now in the bin.

Thats about a ping-pong balls size of APAP I have threw in the bin throughout this process!!

ok this sounds like good work...

when it finishes this filter for the 3rd time or whatever it is - your good to go man



you have been very careful - and its this kind of careful and inquisitve approach that is gonna keep you alive and well

i once did a cwe in the same way you did with 32 co-codamols 8/500 (with coffee filters and very cold water)

and im alive to tell the tale. i was fine and was buzzing nicely.



by the way despite what some people say - it does NOT work very well with a T shirt

i did it a couple of nights back with just 15 co-dydramols - and my guts hurt afterwards and i was really scared - T shirts are NO good as filters - use coffee filters only - stick to the procedure you using - its a good one

also - be careful with your tolerance - you dont really wanna go much higher than 300mg IMHO

 

[Toela65]

Funy you say that as the other night I was thinking of doing my 1st CWE but I didn't have coffee filters. I had read about T-Shirts and Tissue paper but my gut instinct was to wait and get coffee filters.

Looks like a good idea that I did now!!!

Again, thanks for all the help along the way!!!

 

[Free_Man**]

Funy you say that as the other night I was thinking of doing my 1st CWE but I didn't have coffee filters. I had read about T-Shirts and Tissue paper but my gut instinct was to wait and get coffee filters.

Looks like a good idea that I did now!!!

Again, thanks for all the help along the way!!!

good man - no problem

 

[Toela65]

Just in case anyone cares the CWE worked and I got a pretty good buzz. Not as good as usual but I'm bound to have a lost an unknown quantity of DHC during the extraction.

I'm hoping to do it more effieciently next time and lose less of the DHC. I suppose what I need to factor in now is how many extra tablets to include in the mix in order to account for DHC lost in the extraction process.

Overall, it was a good first time experience. However, I started the process around 5.30pm and didn't actually consume the DHC until around 10pm so I'm hoping I can maybe cut the time a little next time lol!!

Its cheered me up as well as I know I won't be scripted forever, in fact I have an Hospital appointment early next month and the letter says to bring money if you pay for prescriptions so I could lose the script then. At least I know there is a way to treat myself to a DHC buzz every now and again anyway even if I do lose my script so pretty cheerful about that.

Thanks for all the help!!

 

[Toela65]

If your normal dose is 300mg's how much above this do you think you would need to go in order to account for DHC lost in the extraction. I was thinking perhaps 30mg's above what you would usually use?

What do others think?

 

[leigh12]

terry white brand ftw

crystal clear almost everytime

 

[Machete]

I guess I just don't feel the APAP that much then, if it's bothering everyone else.

 

[Drownrat]

Failed CWE (First time)
I aparantly failed at doing a CWE on 6 Lortab 7.5/750's
I measured out about 75-100ml of warm water, mixed in the Lortabs and they dissolved completely, cooled the liquid and filtered it through coffee filters, the liquid was also split into two. I drank the liquid and got a very small buz about half of what I should have but I also got nausea equal to taking the Lortabs without doing a CWE, any ideas on what I did wrong? I believe I used too much water

 

[Free_Man**]

Failed CWE (First time)
I aparantly failed at doing a CWE on 6 Lortab 7.5/750's
I measured out about 75-100ml of warm water, mixed in the Lortabs and they dissolved completely, cooled the liquid and filtered it through coffee filters, the liquid was also split into two. I drank the liquid and got a very small buz about half of what I should have but I also got nausea equal to taking the Lortabs without doing a CWE, any ideas on what I did wrong? I believe I used too much water

its not really too much water

what did u use to filter it ?

 

[Drownrat]

I used coffee filters

 

[Free_Man**]

I used coffee filters

ok thats weird - did u notice a decent ammount of apap clog up in the filters ?

 

[Drownrat]

Yes, I got a very good sized ball of something, obviously not the APAP though, I'd really like to figure out why the APAP didn't get filtered out of the solution though because most of the time when I consume over 1000mg of APAP I get horrible hives. Maybe because I heated the water before I cooled it and extracted it? I don't think that is the problem though because that is how the Erowid method says to do it. Maybe I just didn't let it cool long enough

 

[Free_Man**]

^ hmmm there is nothing wrong with using warm water (apparently) as long as you cool it afterwards.....

i however dont trust this theory .... we know that apap finds it very difficult to dissolve in cold water - in warm water it dissolves a lot easier.

i would use cold water all the way dont bother using warm and then cooling it .....

i still think this is strange though that u felt as if u had taken the 6 without a CWE

i would suggest PMing a MOD about this before experimenting any further

 

[The_Idler]

There is no point using warm water.

Opiates commonly cause nausea.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Yes, I got a very good sized ball of something, obviously not the APAP though, I'd really like to figure out why the APAP didn't get filtered out of the solution though because most of the time when I consume over 1000mg of APAP I get horrible hives. Maybe because I heated the water before I cooled it and extracted it? I don't think that is the problem though because that is how the Erowid method says to do it. Maybe I just didn't let it cool long enough

hives is a histamine reaction, from the opiate, not apap. apap is an NSAID (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug) and does not get you high, it will will help with swelling and pain to a small degree. apap is not recreation at all.

as long as you're not boiling the water, as it will destroy the opiate, you shouldn't screw it up. maybe let it cool longer.

the big ball of "something" would have been the apap, as it's not freely water soluble.

Sorry for all the noob questions but this is my 1st time.

I am looking at them now and there is still liquid in the filters but the water is hardly dripping thru it down into the glass. Could the remaining APAP totally clog up the filter preventing the remaining water dripping thru to the glass below?

If yes is there anything that can be done about this?

use a couple of filters if you're extracting a large amount, it will stop the filters from clogging up. alterantively you could use a tightly woven material (shirt, sheet, etc, be imaginative)

Ok hang on a minute guys , need to share this with all of you

i did a CWE last night with a T shirt like was suggested by many on hear

i used 15 co-dydramol tablets (10mg dihydrocodeine and 500mg of paracetamol [apap] )

i used very cold (its freezing out there) tap water about - one mugs worth.

i crunched the tablets up, and mixed them in to the cup of cold tap water - and i poured the soloution through a square of t shirt (normal t shirt - the weave of the t shirt was close and tight) it filtered quickly and it didnt seem to leave much paracetamol behind which was a bit worrying - but it left a fair bit and i thought well it has been extracted so its not gonna look like as much but i though oh well im sure the blue lighters know what they are talking about.

and i drank it. (i should note at this point that i have done CWE before i once did about 30 8/500 co-codamols. (8mg codeine 500 paracetamol). and i did it with a coffee filter - which was so much more effective at removing the APAP. i

it worked and it was great but after 4 hrs my liver hurt a lot ..... i was fucking scared and i felt like i had been very stupid. i couldnt sleep (it was 2am) and i could feel my body going through some strange sensations. i thought i might have to call the ambulance.

now a lot of this was probably just me panicking - and i wasnt in agony by any means - but my liver did hurt - for real ... i could tell i had damaged myself - and i was genuinely scared.

normally a tightly woven tshirt is good enough and it's well worth filtering a couple of times is you're still unsure. though smart move if you're going to invest in coffee filters.

had you had any alcohol beforehand?

 

[Free_Man**]

Failed CWE (First time)
I aparantly failed at doing a CWE on 6 Lortab 7.5/750's
I measured out about 75-100ml of warm water, mixed in the Lortabs and they dissolved completely, cooled the liquid and filtered it through coffee filters, the liquid was also split into two. I drank the liquid and got a very small buz about half of what I should have but I also got nausea equal to taking the Lortabs without doing a CWE, any ideas on what I did wrong? I believe I used too much water

nausea is also a side effect from taking too much apap ....

I'd really like to figure out why the APAP didn't get filtered out of the solution though because most of the time when I consume over 1000mg of APAP I get horrible hives.

i dont think drowned rat is reffering to this incident when they talk about hives....

drowned rat please clarify

 

[Free_Man**]

had you had any alcohol beforehand?

no man... i dont like the t shirt method ... it was tightly woven

i was in a lot of pain

i really dont think the t shirt method should be recommended to anyone

 

[The_Idler]

yeah t-shirt is useless, it will not filter effectively.

 

[Drownrat]

No I wasn't referring to the CWE when I said I got hives, I had taken a few tylenol a couple months ago and about 30 minutes afterwards I got hives. I know that opiates cause a histamine release but that was not what caused the hives.