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Dissociatives [Ketamine Subthread] Dosage and Methods of Administration

is this thread still active? i anyone reads this can you tell me how to do an im shot? and if the k that i got lats night is a stupid thing to inject? cause iom not sure how pure it is, looks like cut with something but still very potent through the nose..
 
Youkai said:
well Iv IVed oz's of ketamine and it is MUCH better. IM is like a faster nasal ketamine experience. IV is something new alltogether.

as Iv said, IV ketamine is like nothing else. its closer to a longer more intregrated nitrous experience then nasal ketamine.
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Well, I definately fully agree with you. And for the record, I've never blacked out on K...maybe forget what happened during some of the IV trip, but never have blacked out. I know there will definately be mixed reactions about this. But wtf are you talking about needing a "big boy" needle for K? Even the 1/2cc insulin syringes/tips have always been fine for me.
 
Thanks 2c-bouyant for posting this question because i wanted to ask the exact same thing.. although i'm probably going to just wait til i have access to a personal little ampuole/bottle.

In that case though is there no preparation to perform other than alcohol wipe on skin, just pull solution straight up from vial?

Do you need to take off the seal? or just plunge right in.. and is it best to not have the seal broken say you've cooked some up and then have like half a bottle left for IM's?

How many mg to ml in most liquid solution is there? or does it vary?

Will it state on the bottle?
 
Ghettochrist said:
Thanks 2c-bouyant for posting this question because i wanted to ask the exact same thing.. although i'm probably going to just wait til i have access to a personal little ampuole/bottle.
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Good idea.

In that case though is there no preparation to perform other than alcohol wipe on skin, just pull solution straight up from vial?

Do you need to take off the seal? or just plunge right in.. and is it best to not have the seal broken say you've cooked some up and then have like half a bottle left for IM's?
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There are a few more steps: Leave the rubber seal on the bottle. Clean the seal with an alcohol wipe and let it dry for a few seconds. Use a new syringe to draw up the liquid. Then change the needle for a new one before injection.

How many mg to ml in most liquid solution is there? or does it vary?

Will it state on the bottle?
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It varies, but it will state on the bottle. Ideally you'll have 100mg/ml which is the highest available concentration.
 
ah perfect cheers for that, really annoying how quickly you must go through needles by the sounds of it, but so so so so sooo worth it for the health implications.

Thankyou very much all my questions have been answered i shall bookmark this thread =D
 
I do it the old fashion way. step 1. I get a spoon, put (bottled) water in it then put the amount of k that I want to consume on it then I take my lighter warm the bottom of spoon up till k dissolves then I take needle suck it all up then I sit back and enjoy( then repeat step one!!!)
 
Carsick said:
I've read (and heard personal accounts) that IV ketamine is a waste because you tend to just black out. IM is apparently where it's at.
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Nonsense, if dosed properly this most certainly does not occur. IV ketamine is far more "enjoyable", however tends to be less psychedelic. Why reply to these threads if you don't have experience with such things?

As mentioned, sterility is crucial, as the risk of infection is quite high if the solution to be IM'ed is not prepared correctly. A fine micron filter and bacteriostatic water are both a must if you intend to do this. If possible, just wait until you get a vial...
 
[Ketamine Subthread] Ketamine Dosage and Methods of Administration

This is the sub-thread of the Big and Dandy Ketamine thread in which to discuss dosage and methods of administration. Please direct all questions and discussion about Ketamine dosage and methods of administration to this thread.

 
IM Ketamine efficienct versus nasal

Would you say you need half the dose going intramuscular as you would nasally to reach the same effects?
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About the same dose as you would consume nasally, tho if you want a hell of an experience just throw 200mgs or 250 in there and ENJOY <3

That pic makes me itch for Ketamnine btw... thanks ;)
 
From my very limited experience of snorting ketamine, I'd actually say that the nasal dose needs to be about 1 & a 1/2 times the IM dose, but even then the two are not identical - IM ket comes on with a lot more force. Also the pre k-hole/sensory shutdown period is a hell of a lot shorter with IM (almost like you're rushed, think those Tokyo Underground train guards that propel passengers into the trains in an almost manic fashion!), which reduces the increased sociability that ketamine produces in the very early stages of onset. Couldn't imagine doing DMT/DPT and ketamine if using the nasal route as I personally find that the quicker onset matches perfectly with the tryptamine onset rush to almost knock the wind out of you.

Finally, with IM there's no waste/you know precisely how much you've taken whereas snorting can mean the dose doesn't get completely absorbed, you end up with some being transferred to the stomach where it's much less active (oral requires 2-3x a nasal dose). Besides, weighing up all the issues surrounding using a needle for administration and putting that against that hideous taste that invades your mouth after snorting ket is no contest in my eyes - hence almost all the time I go for IM administration. Not to mention the sore dried out & occasionally bleeding nose/nasal membranes as ketamine hydrochloride is pretty acidic when in solution.


tho if you want a hell of an experience just throw 200mgs or 250 in there and ENJOY
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Even for me & my embarrassingly high ketamine tolerance, 250mg IM is very very close to the 'thank you & goodnight', anaesthetic dose. It's also the sort of dose that results in rather bizzarre behaviour that I have no recollection of once I'm back in the land of the living (which really freaks out my other half as she's the one who generally finds me wedged into the airing cupboard doorway or other such deranged human statue shit).

So personally I'd say don't exceed 200mg IM as you'll remember next to fuck all of what happened. That seems such a waste of ket if you can't remember a bloody thing about it
 
IM is more efficient and requires a lower dose, as F&B mentioned.

But 200-250mg of ketamine IM'd is definately quite a trip, and i can remember pretty much all of it.
 
the syringes around here only hold one cubic centimeter and each cc is only 50mg of k so what do you do keep sticking urself
 
I guess that's the upside to having pure Ket crystals, I just dissolve it in distilled water and get 100mg/1cc concentration, works a dream. How does IM differ from Subcutaneous (Muscle soreness after IM can be a tad distracting unless I IM in my arse but that's just hard/awkward to do by yourself). If SubC doesn't differ much in effects (I think there might be a slightly longer come up period) then I'll just do that from now on.
 
Whatever you do DON'T take 250 mg's your first time.

depending on the person it could only take 75-100 mg to k-hole
250 would knock out quite a few

I would say start at 100 and work your way up.
 
IV vs. IM Ketamine- Which do you prefer and why?

I know theres info on this elsewhere, but I'm interested specifically in the qualitative differences people have noticed between these 2 ROA... IV & IM Ketamine... and I'd love to hear which people prefer and why? My apologies if this is in the wrong place 8o!

The most powerful purely psychological addiction I have ever felt is definately to IV'ing Ketamine...I turn into a fiend when I shoot it. I have gone on day long K binges every couple of months since the late 90's, though its been a couple years since my last binge. I have tried most ROA many times and have always preferred the IV route. I usually start off between 100-150mg and inject every 45 mins or so. I love the feeling of when you start to come out of it and remember small bits of reality, but at the time manifest as flashes of deep insight such as "I'm a HUMAN BEING!?" or "I have a NAME!?"......incredible!...

For me the IV ketamine experience is very elastic and directable, and often takes on characteristics or "flavors" of stimulus experienced leading up to the trip, such as books I'm reading or movies I've seen. There is no real concept of the world as I know it, and I am able to travel through what feels like a liquid nexus or matrix for lack of a better word. Several times I injected while sitting on the back of a greyhound bus, which was quite amazing and felt like travelling through space in a rocket (obviously have a few sober people with you who can keep you propped up and explain any strange noises you might make...which I do.

Also, for me anyways I always seem to get a slight delay before it hits me...up to 30 seconds, which is what allowed me to inject in the bathroom of the bus and immediately open the door and sit back in my seat before being rendered semi-unconscious....but it was always close race Anyways, -though hopefully this doesn't need to be said- I'm not suggesting that anyone use my past experience as guidlines for their own experimenting as I was quite reckless lol.
So to all you IV and IM K lovers, I'd love to hear about your experiences with injecting K and specifically how you feel about IV vs. IM, and what differences you notice between the two. What is it about one ROA that you like the best? Which do you feel gives a more rewarding high and why?
 
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you IV'd ket on a public bus? i personally couldnt think of anything worse.

i've only IM'd k and snorted it, i prefer the IM when im home in my bed for a proper immersive journey. i do small bumps when im out (mostly ontop of a stimulant) which leads to some pretty fun dancing. (sorry if i've gone off topic with the intranasal ROA)
 
Do you find you are using more K with IV relative to a similar IM dosage experience?
 
IV ket is a bad idea, as you can start to khole before you can get the needle out of your arm.

And IV'ing on the back of a bus? Seriously? Are you really that irresponsible?
*sigh* drug laws are never going to change when people do this kind of stuff.
 
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