Mandelin
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Yes you read that right. realatively pure,color reagent tested, FTIR tested, peer tested methamphetamine seems to produce almost no desireable effects on me. And neither does amphetamine.
But first a quick timeline on my drug use:
Up until 2023 I rarely used drugs. The occasional alcohol and weed every few months. Maybe a little caffeine once a week.
~Febuary 2023 -
Old friend from high school introduced me to something he says is cocaine. We snort it and it definitely gives me a more or less typical cocaine effect. Euphoria, bit of jaw clenching, high pulse, hard to sleep for a few hours. Next day feeling a bit down. Not very hungry. In the following few months we meet every few weeks and do cocaine again. Sometimes it works on me sometimes it doesn’t work that well. I Attrrbuted this to his cocaine something being higher quality sometimes lower.
Spring 2023 -
I do some research on drugs on the internet and find out that there is this whole group of drugs called stimulants and that people use them to increase productivity. As someone that has real truble getting anything done this sounded really good. I have 15 books that I want to read but just can’t find the motivation to do so.
So I find out that amphetamine is the typical productivity/ADHD drug and ask my friend to procure me some amphetamine (here also known as “speed”). He gets me the amphetamine. I dry it of the solvents, I acetone wash it. And I carefully take a small dose orally and this produces no noticeable effect. I increase the dosage and take it orally again, again no effect. Keep trying for a couple of days and start snorting it. No effect.Couple of days pass.
It’s now the twentieth of April 2023 and I snort a line in the morning. Half an hour later it mysteriously starts working(pretty weird because snorting is supposed to have a quick onset). I get a lot done, clean the room, mow the lawn, all while clearly being a bit euphoric. Felt pretty happy because I finally found something that can make me productive and because now I though it’s real amphetamine after all. Decide to give it a couple of days and then try it again. And now it doesn’t work again, and never worked again after that.
Start thinking maybe that wasn’t amphetamine after all and decide to get amphetamine from a different source. So I get my new batch of illicitly manufactured amphetamine and long story short it doesn’t work. At lower does I don’t feel anything, at higher doses I feel scatterbrained and uncomfortable, a bit like I drank too much coffee. No euphoria. No compulsion to do things. No increase in productivity. Now at these higher doses the uncomfortable feeling lasts about 30 minutes or something.
Summer 2023 -
Meet with my friend for the last time. We do what he claims is cocaine again. Doesn’t do anything to me. He says it got him high though. I quit trying cocaine at this point.
Decide to get some ketamine. The ketamine works as expected. But not a big fan of that substance or downers in general.
At this point I have a growing suspicion amphetamine maybe just doesn’t work on me. But perhaps a similar substances might. I get myself something sold as methamphetamine. meth being the substance that it is I approach it carefully. First lower oral doses which didn’t produce an effect. Then higher oral doses, and higher snorted doses. I also tried the sublingual route. The higher doses produced an effect similar to the higher amphetamine doses. It makes me jittery, scatterbrained, uncomfortable, makes me think in circles a bit if that makes sense. These effects would last about 2 hours (shorter than methamphetamine’s effects usually last). Then the effects would wear of and during that period I would sometimes feel a bit drowsy even. The highest doses must’ve been 70mg but I didn’t weight it just eyeballing here. Usually I took it a eariler in the day to avoid possible insomnia, which I sometimes noticed and sometimes didn't.
I get the Marquis, Mecke and Mandelin color reagent tests, and test the amphetamine and methamphetamine, and they test as they should.
autumn/winter 2023
I have the meth FTIR tested, and it tests as meth should. Here’s a picture of the abosrbance spectrum of my meth and on this site you can see what meth’s spectrum is supposed to look like. It looks really similar, this can be an indicator of high purity.
Winter 2023
I try a fake pressed XANAX pill, it works almost too well, I black out. Not a big fan of benzos or downers in general though.
I try a smaller piece of a pill that is supposed to be MDMA, it certainly reagent tests like MDMA(Marquis, Mecke, Mandelin). It didn’t produce any interesting effects. I don’t care about MDMA too much though so I didn’t experiment with it too much. I only care about stimulants and their productivity/focus raising effects.
Early 2024
Local person sells me something he claims is amphetamine. Reagent tests consistent with amphetamine (Marquis, Mecke, Mandelin) but this amphetamine didn’t do anything to me. Another person tried this exact same amphetamine at the same time as me and he said it did get him high and made their jaw clench.
Tried something that was alleged to be cocaine at a party with other people and it produced no effects on me.
Here comes the stongest piece of evidence that what I have is actually methamphetamine. This year I met an experienced drug and stimulant user. And I let him(he tried meth before) try a smaller amount of my meth. He said the meth was stellar, really strong, and that he didn’t sleep for two days. This indicates that what I have contains dextro-methamphetamine(FTIR and color reagent tests cannot differentiate levo-methamphetamine and dextro-methamphetamine). So at this point I’m pretty sure that what I have is in fact meth and that it does not work on me.
One day I had the opportunity to try Concerta(methylphenidate) pills. One of them I took as is, the other two I crushed (to defeat the extended release mechanism) and then swallowed them. The crushed ones had all the weird layers that Concerta has so it’s definitely a genuine pill. And yeah they definitely work they give me some euphoria. But it felt like a very dirty euphoria and all in all the 4 hour high didn't feel that good. Felt pretty scatterbrained here too. And what followed the high was 48 hours of very bad mood and depression. Never felt that bad tbh.
Future:
I will answer any questions asked in this thread, and will provide updates.
Additional notes:
I am not taking any antipsychotics, antidepressants, SSRIs or similar. I have never taken antipsychotics, antidepressants, SSRIs or similar
Maybe exhaustive list of drugs I tried, listed by how confident I am they are the drug I think they are:
Caffeine, alcohol, nicotine, Pregabalin, concerta, weed, benzo ,methamphetamine, amphetamine, ketamine, MDMA
Expectations and the placebo effect definitely play a role in how we preceive the effects of drugs, but people say that methamphetamine is such a powerful euphoriant the effects should be unmistakable
But first a quick timeline on my drug use:
Up until 2023 I rarely used drugs. The occasional alcohol and weed every few months. Maybe a little caffeine once a week.
~Febuary 2023 -
Old friend from high school introduced me to something he says is cocaine. We snort it and it definitely gives me a more or less typical cocaine effect. Euphoria, bit of jaw clenching, high pulse, hard to sleep for a few hours. Next day feeling a bit down. Not very hungry. In the following few months we meet every few weeks and do cocaine again. Sometimes it works on me sometimes it doesn’t work that well. I Attrrbuted this to his cocaine something being higher quality sometimes lower.
Spring 2023 -
I do some research on drugs on the internet and find out that there is this whole group of drugs called stimulants and that people use them to increase productivity. As someone that has real truble getting anything done this sounded really good. I have 15 books that I want to read but just can’t find the motivation to do so.
So I find out that amphetamine is the typical productivity/ADHD drug and ask my friend to procure me some amphetamine (here also known as “speed”). He gets me the amphetamine. I dry it of the solvents, I acetone wash it. And I carefully take a small dose orally and this produces no noticeable effect. I increase the dosage and take it orally again, again no effect. Keep trying for a couple of days and start snorting it. No effect.Couple of days pass.
It’s now the twentieth of April 2023 and I snort a line in the morning. Half an hour later it mysteriously starts working(pretty weird because snorting is supposed to have a quick onset). I get a lot done, clean the room, mow the lawn, all while clearly being a bit euphoric. Felt pretty happy because I finally found something that can make me productive and because now I though it’s real amphetamine after all. Decide to give it a couple of days and then try it again. And now it doesn’t work again, and never worked again after that.
Start thinking maybe that wasn’t amphetamine after all and decide to get amphetamine from a different source. So I get my new batch of illicitly manufactured amphetamine and long story short it doesn’t work. At lower does I don’t feel anything, at higher doses I feel scatterbrained and uncomfortable, a bit like I drank too much coffee. No euphoria. No compulsion to do things. No increase in productivity. Now at these higher doses the uncomfortable feeling lasts about 30 minutes or something.
Summer 2023 -
Meet with my friend for the last time. We do what he claims is cocaine again. Doesn’t do anything to me. He says it got him high though. I quit trying cocaine at this point.
Decide to get some ketamine. The ketamine works as expected. But not a big fan of that substance or downers in general.
At this point I have a growing suspicion amphetamine maybe just doesn’t work on me. But perhaps a similar substances might. I get myself something sold as methamphetamine. meth being the substance that it is I approach it carefully. First lower oral doses which didn’t produce an effect. Then higher oral doses, and higher snorted doses. I also tried the sublingual route. The higher doses produced an effect similar to the higher amphetamine doses. It makes me jittery, scatterbrained, uncomfortable, makes me think in circles a bit if that makes sense. These effects would last about 2 hours (shorter than methamphetamine’s effects usually last). Then the effects would wear of and during that period I would sometimes feel a bit drowsy even. The highest doses must’ve been 70mg but I didn’t weight it just eyeballing here. Usually I took it a eariler in the day to avoid possible insomnia, which I sometimes noticed and sometimes didn't.
I get the Marquis, Mecke and Mandelin color reagent tests, and test the amphetamine and methamphetamine, and they test as they should.
autumn/winter 2023
I have the meth FTIR tested, and it tests as meth should. Here’s a picture of the abosrbance spectrum of my meth and on this site you can see what meth’s spectrum is supposed to look like. It looks really similar, this can be an indicator of high purity.
Methamphetamine
webbook.nist.gov
Winter 2023
I try a fake pressed XANAX pill, it works almost too well, I black out. Not a big fan of benzos or downers in general though.
I try a smaller piece of a pill that is supposed to be MDMA, it certainly reagent tests like MDMA(Marquis, Mecke, Mandelin). It didn’t produce any interesting effects. I don’t care about MDMA too much though so I didn’t experiment with it too much. I only care about stimulants and their productivity/focus raising effects.
Early 2024
Local person sells me something he claims is amphetamine. Reagent tests consistent with amphetamine (Marquis, Mecke, Mandelin) but this amphetamine didn’t do anything to me. Another person tried this exact same amphetamine at the same time as me and he said it did get him high and made their jaw clench.
Tried something that was alleged to be cocaine at a party with other people and it produced no effects on me.
Here comes the stongest piece of evidence that what I have is actually methamphetamine. This year I met an experienced drug and stimulant user. And I let him(he tried meth before) try a smaller amount of my meth. He said the meth was stellar, really strong, and that he didn’t sleep for two days. This indicates that what I have contains dextro-methamphetamine(FTIR and color reagent tests cannot differentiate levo-methamphetamine and dextro-methamphetamine). So at this point I’m pretty sure that what I have is in fact meth and that it does not work on me.
One day I had the opportunity to try Concerta(methylphenidate) pills. One of them I took as is, the other two I crushed (to defeat the extended release mechanism) and then swallowed them. The crushed ones had all the weird layers that Concerta has so it’s definitely a genuine pill. And yeah they definitely work they give me some euphoria. But it felt like a very dirty euphoria and all in all the 4 hour high didn't feel that good. Felt pretty scatterbrained here too. And what followed the high was 48 hours of very bad mood and depression. Never felt that bad tbh.
Future:
I will answer any questions asked in this thread, and will provide updates.
Additional notes:
I am not taking any antipsychotics, antidepressants, SSRIs or similar. I have never taken antipsychotics, antidepressants, SSRIs or similar
Maybe exhaustive list of drugs I tried, listed by how confident I am they are the drug I think they are:
Caffeine, alcohol, nicotine, Pregabalin, concerta, weed, benzo ,methamphetamine, amphetamine, ketamine, MDMA
Expectations and the placebo effect definitely play a role in how we preceive the effects of drugs, but people say that methamphetamine is such a powerful euphoriant the effects should be unmistakable