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Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v. 7.0

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Baddream said:
My family keep hassling me about starting back up on meds. My psychosis period hurt them alot. When I’m ill, they get ill as well. I’m caught in the dilemma of pleasing my beloved parents’ wishes or my own happiness. They could be right, maybe I’ll suffer a relapse one day. I told them that I’ll take the meds if they notice me starting to act up. I will do it if they ask. But pills this time I never want to get injection again. What would you guys do in my position?
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I would come up with a plan on how I could get my own place to live. Then your family should stop bugging you to take toxic medications. If they continue to do so after you've moved out, you can tell them to pound sand and there's nothing they could do about it. In the meantime, you could write a medical directive that and have it displayed on the lock screen of your phone. Or maybe have a lawyer draw up a directive. Say that in the event of an crisis, you wish to be injected with fast acting olanzapine or aripriprazole.

Baddream said:
Hang in there bro. Try to remember the positive things in your life that invega can’t take away from you. Your family, education, skills, kindness, empathy for other people. It will be worth the wait. Try to achieve a goal every day and take it step by step
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What? Invega can absolutely take away emotions like kindness and empathy. It can also take away athletic skills, driving skills, social skills, etc etc, And, depending on your genetics and the dose taken and for how long, these deficits can last for years after discontinuation.
 
Recoveringinvega said:
My therapist at the time told a psych that I was going through psychosis when I wasnt. From there like 10 cops showed up fully armed and tackled me to the ground. Kept me in there squad car for 6 hours cuffed. Then After I was taken into the hospital where they kept saying Im a danger to society and myself. Dont even know where they got that from. Most likely the therapist making a bunch of bullshit up and reporting it. Thats when they put me on community treatment order and got injected with invega. Well in the end they told my family all the same things that had been reported and my fam wanted me to get injected as well before coming home.

What Im trying to say is therapists have traumatized me. Dont know if all of them are like that though but damn.
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That‘s precisely why I don’t use therapists anymore. Unfortunately you can’t trust them most the time and there are many very bad ones.
 
Recoveringinvega said:
This was after my psych break. Ive definitely had one before seeing the therapist but while I was seeing her I was stable and actually doing well. I was doing well in the gym going to school and was speaking to my ex again planning to meet up. Then I ended up in the psych ward lol. I was put on risperidone at first which wasnt bad. Ive now been on risperdal, invega and have been perscribed geodon to take in september. Thank god Im of CTO. What antipsychotics have everyone else been on so far?
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I have been on a shitload of them but I spent the longest time on olanzapine. I absolutely hate that drug and it caused me to gain a lot of wait that I’m still trying to burn off. Steer far away from that one.
 
Losingmymind said:
I have been on a shitload of them but I spent the longest time on olanzapine. I absolutely hate that drug and it caused me to gain a lot of wait that I’m still trying to burn off. Steer far away from that one.
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I plan to be completely off antipsychotics in the new year so geodon should be my last. Read somewhere that you should be on antipsychotics for at least one year after your first break in order to prevent relapse. You think olanzapines worse than invega?
 
Recoveringinvega said:
I plan to be completely off antipsychotics in the new year so geodon should be my last. Read somewhere that you should be on antipsychotics for at least one year after your first break in order to prevent relapse. You think olanzapines worse than invega?
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No pills are worse than the long acting injections. I took olanzapine orally for around a year and it was terrible but when I stopped things basically returned to normal. The only drug I know worse than invega would be the haldol injections. As for the antipsychotic timeline I’d say it depends. Relapse can occur if you stop meds abruptly without tapering. I always hated the meds but would end up relapsing if I stopped abruptly and resumed taking recreational drugs.
 
Conky said:
Therapy is a waste of time if you're still broken due to being drugged. I saw a therapist every week for a year and at the end I was no better off and I wasn't even drugged at that point.
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How many injections did you get ?
 
Alex07 said:
I studied neurology. Antipsychotics severe the connections you've made you don't get those old connections back, they don't grow back in the same manner as well.
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As long neurons aren't dangerously damaged, this should be completely reversible damage. This can not be compared to TBI-s where damage is done to neuron cells (example: cell death from lack of oxygen) and affected brain system as whole. When only parts of cells are damaged, cells can regenerate these parts, this is such case since only synapses are damaged
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You might argue that invega is neurotoxic, but for most people it's not causing any noticeable amount of (irreversible) cell death.
- Irreversible effects of neurotoxicity can be seen on MRI, there have been cases of ~5% of irreversible damage after few years which is not much.

Brain shrinkage is proven to be almost completely (90%+) reversible.
 
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I was getting side effects from Lion's Mane and it messed with aspects of my recovery. I should be back to normal in a few days, I think I quit before it became permanent/semi-permanent. It gave me anxiety, numbness, and intensified anhedonia. I do not recommend lion's mane to people who have autoimmune issues or NAFLD, it made my WBC go up, made my albumin go down. I think my body sucks at processing stuff. When I know my sex drive will be ok, I'm going to get on escitalopram for my OCD because I don't think it hurt me badly the time I was on it, it just made me gain weight.
 
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Baddream said:
I’m feeling major improvements cognitively at 5 months. Physically not there yet
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Cognitive issues are my main concern, my last injection was in the end of march same as you... I feel like not doing very much improvement. How is your mental capabilities now compared to then? Can you have solid conversations and thoughts? Anedonia? I feel stuck and frozen, very depressing... It's like I don't give a fuck about anything and also is impossibile to cry despite living in infinite despair...
 
RiccardoLL! said:
Cognitive issues are my main concern, my last injection was in the end of march same as you... I feel like not doing very much improvement. How is your mental capabilities now compared to then? Can you have solid conversations and thoughts? Anedonia? I feel stuck and frozen, very depressing... It's like I don't give a fuck about anything and also is impossibile to cry despite living in infinite despair...
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Mentally I’m sharp and my mood is stable, I don’t get emotional over stuff like I used to. I’m fine with that, I like feeling stable. It’s not like I feel numb.

I even did an IQ test for this job I applied for and did great. The test was pretty tough. I can dm you the name of it if you’re interested.

I’m afraid I’ll never be the same physically with the sexual dysfunction and ability to feel substances/stimulants. I have had improvements though.

Then again I know some of you guys suffer tremendously with anhedonia and would kill to deal with only the issues I mentioned. But it’s a pretty big deal to me and I lose sleep over this.

Best of luck
 
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Baddream said:
Mentally I’m sharp and my mood is stable, I don’t get emotional over stuff like I used to. I’m fine with that, I like feeling stable. It’s not like I feel numb.

I even did an IQ test for this job I applied for and did great. The test was pretty tough. I can dm you the name of it if you’re interested.

I’m afraid I’ll never be the same physically with the sexual dysfunction and ability to feel substances/stimulants. I have had improvements though.

Then again I know some of you guys suffer tremendously with anhedonia and would kill to deal with only the issues I mentioned. But it’s a pretty big deal to me and I lose sleep over this.


Best of luck
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If you have had improvements then why would you think this ?
 
keepinghope said:
If you have had improvements then why would you think this ?
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I don’t know I’m just worried. You’re right though I’m probably overthinking and worrying for nothing. That’s actually a red flag for psychosis starting to creep in.

I’ve been noticing my symptoms acting up lately. Like I’m concerned my job is surveilling my work laptop when I’m working from home. It’s always in the back of my head. I don’t pay much attention to these thoughts now that I recognize it’s my illness. When I was hospitalized I got so paranoid it was unreal. In the end I started believing the entire world was against me trying to sabotage my life.

I also got paranoid about my friend stabbing me in the back, turns out I made a complete fool of myself when I confronted him about it.

Ffs I need to get a grip somehow or they’ll put me back in.
 
Messed up thing is that they (work) may, or at least have the technology to do so, that’s what freaks me out. I start thinking what if and maybe this maybe that until I start loosing it completely.

It’s not like I’m doing anything wrong or slacking off, it just bothers me that my private conversations could potentially be monitored. It’s silly, and unrealistic, but it bothers me.

This is bad.
 
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