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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

Misc Ketamine - is it OK to do it every day?

It all depends on how much and how frequently you take it. What would your typical line look like (exact milligrams or approximate values in milligrams)? How many lines/bumps do you do in a day? What would be your frequency (how many days of abstinence before doing ketamine)? And is your ketamine enantiomerically pure S-ketamine or racemic?
I didn’t do lines, I take exactly 60mg of the pure powder, intramuscular. Once in a day (before bed). But I don’t sleep on it. I stay up and either listen to music, watch a movie, or play video games. Absolutely enhances those experiences exponentially. I can honestly say I’ve never had a “bad trip” in all the times I’ve done it.

As for frequency, that’s what I’m trying to figure out. What would be a safe frequency at 60mg, IM?
Weekly? Bi-weekly? Monthly?

As for your last question, enantiomerically pure S-ketamine vs racemic…I’ve no idea what that means. How can I tell which it is, and what are the differences? All I can tell you is it’s a pure white powder.
 
I reach hole territory somewhere between 175 and 300mg depending if it’s S isomer or racemic, tolerance and mental state. Everything over 350mg and experience would go from recreational to anesthetic experience within minutes.
Good lord that sounds like wildly high dosages to me. What was your ROA? Snorting? I’m guessing 300mg snorting is much different than 300mg IM.
 
any and every drug everyday is a bad idea...the only one you can get away with everyday without too many issues, is weed
Yeah, guess you’re probably right. I’m sure even weed everyday probably has some negative long term impact. Probably not good for your memory. No free lunches. But that’s strictly anecdotal, I don’t claim to know if there are any studies to back that up.
 
Coming back to being sober from 200-300mg takes a while but it's gradual.
I don't recommend trying to do anything other than laying down in bed for 90 minutes, and not drive or doing anything dangerous for 4-5 hours minimum.
After 5 to 10 minutes from a K-hole size line I'll be just locked in position tripping balls...

Funny story once I thought it would be a good idea to clean the metal mirror I use to snort in the bathroom sink right after doing a line.
About 90 minutes later my brother came back home and found me bent forward 90 degrees, staring at the mirror with water running over it, I had been locked in that position the whole time.
They took pics and then helped me into bed.To this day they use one of those pics as contact image in their phones so it pops up every time I ring them.
Lol, that’s hilarious. Wish I could see that pic…lol
 
PCP is another one of the flawed drugs. I liked it but it was unsettling. It's heyday was due to it being cheap to use, cheaper to make...people liked it because it was cheaper than weed.

Meanwhile, weed is pretty close to free. The problem with PCP is that it makes your behavior unpredictable. Have you tried it's pink haired stepsibling, mushrooms? Mushrooms are too strong for me but I'd rather a friend go on a shroom bender than an angel dust bender.

Shrooms can be QUITE fast acting if you smoke them.

What's your objection to molly? Molly is (ideally) spaced out every six weeks, but I question how much of a problem you'd run into doing it twice a month provided you otherwise took really good care of yourself.
Well, I feel like pure MDMA has much more of an impact on your brain chemistry. I can’t afford to mess with my serotonin function. It’s not a good idea for someone prone to depression like me. I’d always feel depressed the day or two after rolling. But my biggest objection to Molly is that it’s a stimulant, and I simply can’t/won’t do a stimulant without fentanyl or tar to counter it. As I’ve only been clean from fentanyl for about 2 weeks now, stimulants are absolutely off limits.

I do appreciate that advice in any case. And that goes for everyone. 😎👍
 
Ketamine is fun once a month if that but every fucking day.... your trading addiction bro
Your bladder his done and I can tell you there is stories of people pissing blood and all type of horror stories. There is a guy here that was using 20g a day and you think thats impossible but dude you would be surprised how fast it goes
20g a day?JFC! How does that not kill you? Also, everyone talking about how addictive it is, as well as how quickly your tolerance goes up…I know better than to tell anyone on a bluelight forum that they’re wrong. I’m sure what you say is true. But so will give you my experience.

I went through 2 grams over the course of months, only 60mg a day IM. Did it roughly 4-5 times a week. My tolerance never changed. When I ran out, I stopped cold turkey. Felt zero adverse effects.

Then I bought another 10g, and have been doing it daily for another couple months. I stopped 4 days ago, again without tapering. I feel perfectly normal.

Is it possible addiction/tolerance requires higher dosages? Or am I just lucky?
 
Using ketamine daily could kill your bladder.

See:

Seconded.

There are people who develop serious addictions to Ketamine. It's not considered to be as addictive as Opioids. There are definitely niches of users who really gravitate toward the stuff though. I'm not as aware of the issues surrounding chronic Ketamine usage as I am concerning Opioids. I am aware of the connection between Ketamine and Bladder Damage. It seems to be pretty well-proven.

I watched a documentary featuring a British Ketamine Addict that many of you have probably also seen. This guy started using it in the Rave circuit. He developed a liking for it and when cameras found him, he had been a compulsive, daily user for ~5years or so. His use and compulsive behavior was no different to what you would see in a chronic Heroin user,

He was being seen medically to have a mesh screen installed to cover the areas in which his bladder was rupturing. At that stage, I believe he was already using catheters to urinate. All drugs have certain consequences. If you ask me, being forced to use catheters is a pretty serious consequence.
 
Hell no, it fucks up your bladder and urinary tract. Plus, ketamine builds up a ridiculous tolerance super fast. Idk what do ppl find cool about ket, it's not even euphoric at all. It's just a weird anesthetic, you lose coordination, feel dizzy but 4 me it doesn't feel good at all. I'll never understand k-heads.

Bang on mate.

I tried the wonderful MXE before ketamine and found ketamine a bit shit in comparison. So I really can't see the attraction.
 
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A little bit off topic but I used to go to a K clinic where she would give me IV ketamine. She dosed it as high as 80 mg and I never felt high on it. I’m really wondering if suboxone interferes with it somehow because I was o. Maintenance at the time. Does K act on opioid receptors?
 
Yeah, guess you’re probably right. I’m sure even weed everyday probably has some negative long term impact. Probably not good for your memory. No free lunches. But that’s strictly anecdotal, I don’t claim to know if there are any studies to back that up.
while there are definitely outliers that benefit sometimes of some daily habit, anecdotally it generally goes like that
and there actually is thin supply of research data showing improvement of life quality in regular weed smokers, nothing too conclusive tho
 
Done LOADS of 4-MeO-PCP if that counts?
I honestly don’t know the difference between PCP 4-meO-PCP.

Do you have experience with both PCP (4-meO or otherwise) and ketamine? Did you enjoy em both How would you compare/contrast them? Which do you enjoy more?
 
Bang on mate.

I tried the wonderful MXE before ketamine, so I really can't see the attraction.
How did you take the ketamine? What was your ROA? Dosage?

I’ve already said it in this thread but the people who say “I don’t even see the attraction of K”, or preposterous statements like “It’s not even Euphoric” probably took it the wrong way. You take 20 or 30mg more than optimal, you won’t enjoy it. You take 20-30mg less than ideal, same thing. 60mg IM seems to provide VERY consistent results. And as I’ve said already, K is the only drug aside from my first line of coke & MDMA that had me feeling so good I was literally laughing & smiling throughout most of the trip. You criticizers missed the boat. It’s a different drug when you snort it. Can’t stress that enough.

That said, I’ve never heard of MXE. Does it have a “street” name? Same family as K? Would love to try it. I also have 2 cigarettes dipped in PCP. Only reason I haven’t tried it yet is because I find cigarettes disgusting. Never even smoked one of you can believe it. But Im sure I’ll break down at some point. My connection insists it’s superior to K.
 
Any Opiate did in my experience.
It didn't matter if I did Ketamine, MXE or 4-MeO-PCP it was the same.
I don’t know if they “interfere”, per se, but I know smoking some fentanyl as the K’s wearing off is a beautiful combo. But fent or no fent, my K trips are always beautiful experiences. And I really doubt 4mg of suboxone is having any impact on the K trip.
 
A little bit off topic but I used to go to a K clinic where she would give me IV ketamine. She dosed it as high as 80 mg and I never felt high on it. I’m really wondering if suboxone interferes with it somehow because I was o. Maintenance at the time. Does K act on opioid receptors?
Yeah I looked into that. They give you ketamine IV (infusion), the dosage is .5mg/kg of body weight. According to my calculations, at my weight, that works out to about 35 to 40mg. So not much less than what I’m doing. They recommend doing it twice a week for roughly 3 months.

I’m tempted to try a session at one of these clinics. I’m guessing the IV ROA will make a big difference in the way it feels. The problen? They charge $600 per session. I got 10 grams for not much more than what they’re charging.
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A little bit off topic but I used to go to a K clinic where she would give me IV ketamine. She dosed it as high as 80 mg and I never felt high on it. I’m really wondering if suboxone interferes with it somehow because I was o. Maintenance at the time. Does K act on opioid receptors?
How much suboxone were you on? Either way, I know from experience that subs have no effect on my K trips. I am surprised they gave you 80mg…they typically base dosage off your KG weight, .5mg per KG. So unless you’re over 300 pounds it’s hard to see then dosing you so high. You should’ve absolutely felt high on it. It’s very strange.
 
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