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LSD causes retinal damage? 2018 study

DrumTripper said:
Ok, this is not cool, maybe. Hopefully it’s super minor, but I’d need someone more educated to fully grasp the implications of this article.
Anyone out there to provide some clarity on this, rest us assured?
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I’ll start by saying that I’m not educated enough in biology to answer this accurately, but I am semi educated in the field. I feel as though enough people have done LSD for a long enough time for it not to be a major complication, but that is anecdotal. I highly doubt it could do damage faster than normal aging is capable of doing. I also noticed the study is in vitro. I did not pay the $54 to see the full study, so I couldn’t see the exact specifications of the study. I wouldn’t concern yourself over it too much. I’d only start to get concerned if more studies supported these findings.
 
Appreciate the responses, but I for one have not experienced improved eyesight. If anything, it’s the reverse.
Taking it with a grain of salt, until more proof surfaces.
Thanks!
 
TripSitterNZ said:
dont listen to studies they are by full of shit sciencetists trying to scam money for funding. LSD acutally improves eye sight and peyote can cure blindness
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Hmm I’d say read any study, and try to have an open mind about it. Always have an open mind. Be skeptical in my opinion. If LSD does in fact cause retina damage then it might sway some from using it. I didn’t research the the funding of the study very much, but I could not find a conflict of interest. I didn’t research for very long. New studies come along and disprove old studies and change our understanding. Likely you’re correct that this is not a study to be concerned about.

Edit: Can you link a source for the improved eyesight and peyote curing blindness, please? I’ve never heard that. Except with LSD while tripping it can I crease visual acuity
 
ThisIsAnAccount said:
Hmm I’d say read any study, and try to have an open mind about it. Always have an open mind. Be skeptical in my opinion. If LSD does in fact cause retina damage then it might sway some from using it. I didn’t research the the funding of the study very much, but I could not find a conflict of interest. I didn’t research for very long. New studies come along and disprove old studies and change our understanding. Likely you’re correct that this is not a study to be concerned about.

Edit: Can you link a source for the improved eyesight and peyote curing blindness, please? I’ve never heard that. Except with LSD while tripping it can I crease visual acuity
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Native american rituals use peyote for healing theres no studies done on it but i trust what they say and claim
 
TripSitterNZ said:
Native american rituals use peyote for healing theres no studies done on it but i trust what they say and claim
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Mate- if you can't show me studies right now that prove this is true then I'm calling it bulshit!

Haha just kidding bro, I'm a believer, I know there is so much more which is possible and within our reach and grasp only we knew how to access it and be in that state and on that plane more of the time.

Physics and our regular expectations can truly be defied, but unlike how some people wrongly see it IMO, still within the laws of the Universe.

Just not as we understand them (or really don't like we assume so confidently as a race.)
 
DrumTripper said:
Appreciate the responses, but I for one have not experienced improved eyesight
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Me neither man, but I'm definitely not correlating that and certainly not in any sort of linear fashion with my LSD used over the years but with many other separate factors and which can be an inevitability for many people with time.

I did put lsd tabs in my eyes, about 6 times I think. It certainly had more pronounced effects on my vision at the time of the trip but I'm not sure that I record any lingering changes or effects (I'm not ruling it out.)

Im not sure that my heavy MDMA use didn't have more impact on my long term visual health than lsd. Personally I don't have too much concern about LSD causing damage to my vision.
 
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TripSitterNZ said:
dont listen to studies they are by full of shit sciencetists trying to scam money for funding. LSD acutally improves eye sight and peyote can cure blindness
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Ok cool, I am satisfied. Case closed . . . For now.
Thanks folks. Now time to pop ‘n rock!
 
Vastness said:
Do you mean to say... you put paper tabs directly ONTO your eyeball?

Why would you do this??
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Im not promoting or recommending it. It was a very long time ago. I was just a dumb young fool. In truth, it was primarily because I aways loved acid, but it was hard to come by often and many times too weak to do shit.

I hate uderdosing and I just wanted to be high on a student budget at times.

Lsd hits a lot stronger when taken by eye. I was able to trip like I never could have with oral use.

Like I say Im not proud, I know it is foolish, and of course I would never consider such a thing now because I recognise and understand the true value of your bodily health. Just something I did a long time ago that's all.

I never noticed any direct harm though either, not to my eyes or vision at or anywhere near those experiences.
 
AutoTripper said:
Mate- if you can't show me studies right now that prove this is true then I'm calling it bulshit!

Haha just kidding bro, I'm a believer, I know there is so much more which is possible and within our reach and grasp only we knew how to access it and be in that state and on that plane more of the time.
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I think it likely can heal, but I just didn’t know of a study, and I was wondering if others did. Mescaline is quite the substance
 
one needs a membership to access anything more than the summary abstract.

I would question the validity starting by analysis of the duration and concentration of lsd proportional to the culture size: does it reflect in any way to a normal dose or tenstrip, or are we talking sustained thumbprint kinds of exposure.

It is interesting to me that a retinal effect was tested at all. I wonder what led to that.
 
pupnik said:
one needs a membership to access anything more than the summary abstract.

I would question the validity starting by analysis of the duration and concentration of lsd proportional to the culture size: does it reflect in any way to a normal dose or tenstrip, or are we talking sustained thumbprint kinds of exposure.

It is interesting to me that a retinal effect was tested at all. I wonder what led to that.
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My eyesight is just as bad as always, no amount of LSD use has changed that. Plus like others have said, the abstract lacks detail, but if I were to guess, they were just shooting large amounts of the drug into the tissue, amounts that would never occur in a person.

And the study was funded/effected by some Chinese university grant. The Chinese government isn't renowned for it's laissez-faire attitude towards scientific inquiries... Rather, it's known for it's frequent and unabashed attempts to quell independent thought. Just saying.
 
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