Different ways of taking MDMA and how they differ

[nooodle]

Whenever i have MDMA capsules, i usually take out the contents (rocks) and munch on them and then swallow after a bit. Yes, it tastes disgusting as fuck but many people have told me it's more effective than swallowing just the capsule, is this true?

Also so many people have told me different things about snorting, I know for a fact snorting kicks in really fkn quick and lasts less longer but does it hit you harder than orally taking it? Some people have told me yes and no so i'm kinda confused there.

Lastly i've also heard of people smoking MD but never got around to doing it myself, if anyone has done it how different is the high? (if it is).

 

[Vastness]

Only difference between swallowing capsules and crunching and swallowing the contents is that the MD will get into your system marginally faster. Honestly though I'd be really surprised if this made any significant difference to the overall experience, everything should still get absorbed and the difference is going to be very very minimal.

Generally speaking insufflated doses of any substance that can be absorbed through the nasal mucus membranes will hit faster and require a lower dose than oral.

Can't comment personally on smoked MDMA but I would expect that it should hit even faster than a snorted dose, but probably fade off faster too (this is the case for most substances that can be both smoked and snorted, with probably a few exceptions).

 

[Wiserthanearlier]

Munching it will get into you quicker, perhaps slightly more impactful as it would be crossing into brain through mouth bypassing stomach. It will be terrible for your teeth i imagine though.

Oral is most common as it is very effective. I recommend disolved in 50ml of water, crushing if necessary. Then swallowed on an almost empty stomach. Come up is quick and no food in stomach ensure absorbation isnt slowed.

Smoking or vaping produces an effect but hardly comparable, slight stimulation perhaps.

Snorting works, but is a bit of work. You still need 80 or 90 % of an oral dose. So its ineffective comparably.
We usually stsrt with an oral dose and snort during to maintain the high.

 

[heatlessbbq]

MdMa honestly should be ingested or taken anally; by ecstasy tablet. NOT MOLLY.

MdMa sold as "molly" usually is rare. Seeing as mdMa has methamphetamines in it.
Most, if not all 'molly' is actually MDA. If actual mdMa was being sold in half gram or full gram baggies... EVERYONE would be consuming too much meth.

This is why ecstasy pills exists.

 

[Vastness]

^ Jeeeeez... this post is just absolute garbage!

MDMA is a methamphetamine, sure, in the sense that methamphetamine is part of the chemical structure of 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine - but this does not mean that when you take MDMA you're also taking "METH", ie, the drug described just by "Methamphetamine".

By this logic, everytime anyone takes MDMA or MDA they're also taking "amphetamine", and taking half a gram to a gram of speed is equally not what most people desire when they take any MDxx.

Ecstasy pills are adulterated OBSCENELY OFTEN. This is why sites like pillreports exist, and why people keep dieing on some garbage substitute that some scummy operator somewhere in the supply chain has decided to try to pass off as MDMA!

"Molly" is just a term commonly used to describe what one would hope to be pure MDMA.

MDA typically is a lot rarer, probably more expensive to manufacture, and while you might find it in pills sometimes, if you're going to try to say "most if not all Molly is MDA", please provide some kind of source, I just don't buy this and think you're just making up bullshit.

 

[nooodle]

^ Jeeeeez... this post is just absolute garbage!

MDMA is a methamphetamine, sure, in the sense that methamphetamine is part of the chemical structure of 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine - but this does not mean that when you take MDMA you're also taking "METH", ie, the drug described just by "Methamphetamine".

By this logic, everytime anyone takes MDMA or MDA they're also taking "amphetamine", and taking half a gram to a gram of speed is equally not what most people desire when they take any MDxx.

Ecstasy pills are adulterated OBSCENELY OFTEN. This is why sites like pillreports exist, and why people keep dieing on some garbage substitute that some scummy operator somewhere in the supply chain has decided to try to pass off as MDMA!

"Molly" is just a term commonly used to describe what one would hope to be pure MDMA.

MDA typically is a lot rarer, probably more expensive to manufacture, and while you might find it in pills sometimes, if you're going to try to say "most if not all Molly is MDA", please provide some kind of source, I just don't buy this and think you're just making up bullshit.

Thanks for saying this cus i was gonna say... Pure MDMA should not contain "meth"

 

[AutoTripper]

Haha, watch out for that "Meth"information around here, we wouldn't want anybody to get the wrong idea now.

 

[Happyhand]

My favorite route is anally for mdma and/or mda. Dissolve in water first though and shoot in with a syringe (without needle of course!!)

 

[Happyhand]

Oral would be next in line after anal ??

 

[heatlessbbq]

Haha, watch out for that "Meth"information around here, we wouldn't want anybody to get the wrong idea now.

...or the wrong information.

 

[TripSitterNZ]

In NZ all the fucking teens snort mdma for some reason such a waste to snort it hits harder and longer taking orally. After that big bust in queensland ill doubt ill be seeing decent presses for a few years (mabye a good time to finally take a break).

 

[heatlessbbq]

Snorting mdMa is just like eating it when it comes to getting absorbed into the blood stream.
However, the xxMA will give an affect through administration through nasal. Seeing as meth does get absorbed into the blood through the nasal cavity.
Just like cocaine.

 

[heatlessbbq]

MDxA is absorbed in the inner lining of the small and large intestine.

 

[AutoTripper]

2 points on oral vs insufflate- specifically remember hearing or reading about this and also confirming it it with experience to the satisfaction of my mind:

Insufflating MDMA is much less transcendental than taking it orally.

The transcendental aspect of MDMA is probably the most interesting and valuable side of it for me personally because I'm all about transcendental when it comes to my drug taking and my general Ethos in life although I struggle to put this into practice due to my condition and circumstances.

But I absolutely can confirm from my experiences that snorting the MDMA almost completely bypasses the transcendental and spiritual experience I used to access.

I did know certain people who would strongly favour snorting and I would describe them as not being very spiritual in any capacity and actually quite shallow and selfish people with little imagination.

I know that is a crude generalisation but these were just the people I knew and what they were like who favoured insufflation. They also would swear that they would not get a comedown this way there may be something to this whereby you can avoid certain aspects and characteristics of the typical come down by not taking the MDMA orally.

 

[Happyhand]

2 points on oral vs insufflate- specifically remember hearing or reading about this and also confirming it it with experience to the satisfaction of my mind:

Insufflating MDMA is much less transcendental than taking it orally.

The transcendental aspect of MDMA is probably the most interesting and valuable side of it for me personally because I'm all about transcendental when it comes to my drug taking and my general Ethos in life although I struggle to put this into practice due to my condition and circumstances.

But I absolutely can't confirm from my experiences that snorting the MDMA almost completely bypasses the transcendental and spiritual experience are used to access.

I did know certain people who would strongly favours naughty and I would describe them as not being very spiritual in any capacity and actually quite shallow and selfish people with little imagination.

I know that is a crude generalisation but these were just the people I knew and what they were like who favoured insufflation. They also would swear that they would not get a comedown this way they may be something to this whereby you can avoid certain aspects and characteristics of the typical come down by not taking the MDMA orally.

Interesting perspective. Although there is little scientific research to support this, I agree that those that I know that insufflate often are not seeking the spiritual experience. This is just my experience, and certainly not a blanket statement.

 

[epic11]

MdMa honestly should be ingested or taken anally; by ecstasy tablet. NOT MOLLY.

MdMa sold as "molly" usually is rare. Seeing as mdMa has methamphetamines in it.
Most, if not all 'molly' is actually MDA. If actual mdMa was being sold in half gram or full gram baggies... EVERYONE would be consuming too much meth.

This is why ecstasy pills exists.

Remove this guy from this forum please. Hes doing a lot of harm. Where the mods at? This is out of hand.

 

[swilow]

MdMa honestly should be ingested or taken anally; by ecstasy tablet. NOT MOLLY.

MdMa sold as "molly" usually is rare. Seeing as mdMa has methamphetamines in it.
Most, if not all 'molly' is actually MDA. If actual mdMa was being sold in half gram or full gram baggies... EVERYONE would be consuming too much meth.

This is why ecstasy pills exists.

Hey mate. Please stop posting this sort of misinformation. This is a harm reduction forum where genuine, objective information is highly valued because it can save lives. When you tell people things that are false or misinformed, you are potentially leading people to make misinformed and dangerous decisions as a result.

MDMA does not contain methamphetamine. It contains part of the structure but it's still NOT methamphetamine. You present no data to back up your claim about most MDMA being MDA. Lastly, it is perfectly viable to take MDMA rectally.

Please man, stop adding nonsense to the forum. That could have real life consequences and is really innaprorpiate and potentially dangerous here.

 

[Phobos]

What our beloved HeatlessBBQ posts is a confused version of the difference between oral ROA and snorted/plugged/IV.
There are a lot of serotonin receptors in the gut and this apparently leads to a stronger serotoninergic stimulation and a different experience.
As it has been said, snorting and plugging hits faster and lasts a bit less and it is also less serotoninergic and more stim like, so yeah, it makes MDMA feel a bit less magic and a bit more like Amphetamine/Adderall/Meth.
Key word here, a bit, it's not going to be Meth, its just just going to shift the effects slightly towards a regular stim.
It will still be a MDMA experience, just slightly different and there will be more urge to redose on the comedown.
It is possible that a reduced serotoninergic activity could reduce the comedown compared to oral, but only if taking the same amount.
It is very harsh on the nose, so plugging is better as it avoids damage by spreading a solution on a much larger surface.
If snorting, it is crucial to crush the crystals to an impalpable powder to reduce damage.
IV MDMA is insanely strong and stimulating and the doses need to be scaled down significantly, and it his absolutely not recommended because of the risks involved.

Regarding chewing MDMA crystals it will give slightly faster absorption but it will also increase gurning (bruxism) jaw tightness and reduce salivation even more.
Not recommended as I know of people that have damaged their teeth as they wouldn't be aware of the grinding and couldn't stop it.

Smoking it is very difficult as it degrades easily when heated, it is harsh, and you can't really smoke enough to roll. Avoid, it is just a wast of MDMA.
EDIT: just to be more clear, I wrote smoking but I really meant vaping with a glass pipe such as those used for Meth.
Smoking provides no control over the temperature, and the temperature is way too high, making it a complete waste and a disgusting experience and probably is even more toxic than vaping due to the higher chances of the drug degrading.
Do not put MDMA in spliffs or bongs that is just crazy.

 

[jhjhsdi]

Smoking it is NASTY.
Snorting hurts like a punch in the nose.
I can't comment on plugging.
I've seen friends IV it but I wouldn't recommend it.
JUST EAT IT!

 

[AutoTripper]

Not recommended as I know of people that have damaged their teeth as they wouldn't be aware of the grinding and couldn't stop it.

It is also going to be directly harmful to teeth, and could well lead to cavities if done regularly. Doesn't taste too nice either, I remember some good awful tasting cups of tea with two or three crushed pills stirred in.

Smoking it is very difficult as it degrades easily when heated, it is harsh, and you can't really smoke enough to roll. Avoid, it is just a wast of MDMA.

Fully agree with that. What an insanely misguided and ill-advised practice hey! I nevet ever felt the need or interest to actually try smoking MDMA.

I have smoked cocaine, but only because the company I was with was doing so.
I never liked the idea or appreciated the actual experience. It seemed wrong, and felt that way too.

I did plug MDMA, never injected. Snorted of course, but again only or mainly when it was a social thing. I never really enjoyed the effects of insufflated MDMA.

I actually put an acid tab in a vaporizer one time in 1999, except I'm sure the tabs were duds or too weak for shit, I had brought them home from A Summer Festival and was way too messed up to really be contemplating any further drug experience at the time, so it was something I did just for the hell of it with nothing to lose or gain by the way really.

Obviously I know now that Lsd cannot be smoked or vaped, I'm sure I did at the time really.

However, taking by eye- now that ROA is definitely stronger. Also I would notice slightly different effects depending on which I I took it in, which I assumed was related to to the different sides of the brain.

Not very wise. I never plugged acid, but would be curious, although I don't expect the effect would be any stronger assuming you could actually reliably get 100% of the acid into your system that way without losing any.