Harm Reduction Cold Water Extraction (CWE) Mega Thread & FAQ v2.0

[GucciSwimmingSuits]

Try to frame your threads with the idea of safety and HR being the paramount subjects.

Will do

So if 27 pills doesn't do it for me, is doing 35-40 pills(after extracting the good stuff, of course) safe? And would a glass of red wine(to help the metabolism) 40 minutes before the codeine be okay?

 

[falsifiedhypothesi]

Don't start adding other drugs into the mixture until you know how one of them effects you first. Ideally it's not advisable to ever mix drugs but if you must then at least test the doses of each drug individually before combining them. If you want to increase the dose because it was extremely underwhelming go ahead but don't increase the dose and add another drug (alcohol).

 

[GucciSwimmingSuits]

I agree with you, but I've already tried them together(although I did it the other way around, codeine first, then a glass of wine later)

What about the amount and temperature of water though? Is 60-70ml of lukewarm water good to do a CWE on 34 pills?

 

[keeping]

^ this.
you should never double down on downers unless you know exactly what you're doing.
i would suggest you get an appropriate dose of codeine and become accustomed to it before adding in anything else.

 

[Fresco]

@ OP

You CAN overdose if you mix codeine with other drugs, so be careful!!!

 

[keeping]

@ OP

You CAN overdose if you mix codeine with other drugs, so be careful!!!

plus you gotta watch out for the paracetamol/apap too

 

[Fresco]

plus you gotta watch out for the paracetamol/apap too

Yes, your liver can only handle so much bullshit before it kisses you goodbye

 

[GucciSwimmingSuits]

Yup, the paracetamol is the main concern in this situation.
I think I'll just use a bit more water during CWE, appreciate the feedback guys

 

[Fresco]

Yup, the paracetamol is the main concern in this situation.
I think I'll just use a bit more water during CWE, appreciate the feedback guys

Remember that the colder the water (that you're using the extraction from), the better.
paracetamol doesnt dissolve well in cold water

 

[GucciSwimmingSuits]

Remember that the colder the water (that you're using the extraction from), the better.
paracetamol doesnt dissolve well in cold water

I'm getting kinda confused by the solubility charts, it seems as if codeine actually dissolves better in cold water(as opposed to warm water), is that true?

On a side note, what are some definite signs that the codeine hit me? I'm asking because I personally don't get the opiate itch from it(at all), even though I'm surely feeling something(blurry vision, hard to concentrate, calm, also a slight tingle in my body), does that mean that it's a placebo effect? On a physical level I'm pretty sure that my pupils become smaller

 

[keeping]

On a side note, what are some definite signs that the codeine hit me? I'm asking because I personally don't get the opiate itch from it(at all), even though I'm surely feeling something(blurry vision, hard to concentrate, calm, also a slight tingle in my body), does that mean that it's a placebo effect? On a physical level I'm pretty sure that my pupils become smaller

red eyes, small, pin-size pupils, itching, somnolence, relaxation/euphoria, nausea, slowed/shallow breathing are all signs that you are on an opiate

 

[smenkhare]

Pestle and mortar, so that the result is fine powder. Dissolve in warm water. Put in the fridge or freezer until the temperature throughout the liquid is less than 10 degrees C. Filter so that the resulting liquid is clear. You may need to run the liquid through a filter twice. I have a cheap remote thermometer (about 10 quid from amazon) and, as an obsessive, a Buchner funnel and 250ml vacuum flask (about 25 quid from e-bay - get the one from China). I can make a reliably consistent CWE (so safe, in that you know what you are getting) that hasn't ever made me sick from APAP. If you use ibuprophen and codeine the extraction is harder because ibuprophen turns into sticky goo when dissolved. It is still possible but I wouldn't recommend it. Also, with ibuprophen, be very careful not to start with anything with ibuprophen lysine in it - ibuprophen lysine, as opposed to ibuprophen, is still very soluble in cold water so CWE will not get rid of it and you will feel very sick if you try (and fail) to remove it using the product of CWE. Hope this helps. p.s. You can, of course, still get addicted and develop tolerance with CWE opiates.

 

[GucciSwimmingSuits]

Yep, that's pretty much how I do it. I buy the pills with paracetamol instead of ibuprofen, so it's not an issue.

I was thinking about pouring the codeine concentrate into a soda and drinking it slowly instead of gulping it all down in one go. I know that alcohol hits you faster if you drink it with a sweet bubbly beverage, would the same logic apply to codeine? That's what I heard you have to do with lean and it's pretty much the same thing(except for the potentiating promethazine). Methods of consumption surely affect the way substances hit us, don't they? Drinking 5 pints of beer is not the same thing as taking 5 small shots of vodka(although the amount of alcohol will be the same), to make a rough comparison.
Has anyone had any experiences with this?

 

[keeping]

i've always held the assumption that your dose of codeine is best taken at once rather than having your doses spaced out - i'm pretty sure i heard that on here but can't remember...
anyone confirm this? of course this could be considered dangerous, assuming you're new to opiates, but if you know your tolerance and have your dose planned fittingly i would say that my way is the best way to get the most out of your codeine.

 

[Fresco]

Pestle and mortar, so that the result is fine powder

Coffee grinder works much better and quicker

 

[ovo1024]

Guys, he said a glass of red wine. Not a 5th of whiskey

 

[GucciSwimmingSuits]

Drinking alcohol before the codeine worked, but you certainly have to be extra careful. I drank a regular sized beer about 30+ minutes before the codeine(the dose was about a 1/3 smaller than the one I tried before) and the effects of cod. were finally noticeable. The weird thing though is how heavily weed changed the whole experience. It was a mellow buzz until I blazed a j with a bit of tobacco in it, which got me super stoned(and it wasn't a cerebral high that weed usually gives you, my mind was pretty clear, but I was nodding off and could feel warm waves in my body)

Another thing I've tried this time is I dissolved the pills in slightly warm water(barely warmer that the room temperature), instead of crushing them up. I was also really careful with the CWE and didn't squeeze the filter too much(you can squeeze it a bit, but if you're not careful you're gonna start spilling APAP into your precious extraction).

Don't know about you guys, but to me this method of CWE seems to be a lot more economical. You just pour some water over the pills(not too much obviously, 50-100ml tops, depending on the amount of pills you're working with), thoroughly stir the mixture, let it settle for a bit(preferably in a freezer) and then filter the whole thing(make sure that whatever you're filtering with is wet).

 

[Fresco]

^^^^ CWE and booze can be lots of fun. Just remember if you do it long enough there will be withdrawal symptoms ( which can be quite nasty if you're not used to it)

 

[smenkhare]

Ooooh - good idea! Thanks.

(This is a reply to Fresco's post about using a coffee grinder but it doesn't appear next to it - no idea why)

 

[smenkhare]

I don't like booze before consuming a CWE - it seems to obscure the bodily pleasure. Does anyone notice a difference between DHC and codeine. I think I feel a difference, especially in body vs. mind.