Miscellaneous The Big & Dandy Psychedelics of the Future Thread

[Transcendence]

^ Ok, that's really fucking weird. That exact sentence, word for word, flashed through my mind before I opened the thread. The cosmic consciousness is condensing.

 

[7ca5p]

Thread needs more attention :O

 

[MattPsy]

^ none of those would probably be psychedelic.
Phens with secondary amines have very little psychedelic activity.

ORLY? Then what say you re: the NBOMe series ?

 

[inmymindimeveryone]

thinking this thread could use a bump

where goes the future?

 

[blueberries]

ok so what if you had a secondary amine group on the benzene ring?
like
NH2
_/
_ / _NH2
/ \_/
\_/

then adding various things onto it?

or something as complicated as this
NH2
_/
_/
\_/ \_/
/ \_/ \
/\ /\
| | | |
\/ \/
\ /
|
if you see what im getting at- 3 benzene rings attached with ethyl chains and methyl bonds off each chain and an amine off the top benzene ring or even amine groups of each ring?
just a thought
also instead of altering existing chemicals mayb we should try to think of new fields where we could start anew

this has not worked at all i'll try to get some images going but try to imagine these as more spread out

 

[blueberries]

so something like these

 

[SONN]

I really wanna hear about bk-2c-b and any other possible more psychoactive bk-x series

 

[SONN]

also GANESHA and 2c-g

 

[Lady Codone]

Shit, half the stuff in PiHKAL and TiHKAL hasn't even hit the RC market yet. No need to come up w/ new stuff!

 

[Vader]

I think bk-2C-B would be very unstable, as with any other bk-phenethylamines without N-substitution.

 

[blueberries]

so something like these

 

[Vader]

blueberries, get some molecule drawing software if you're in any way serious about this.

 

[Jesusgreen]

blueberries, get some molecule drawing software if you're in any way serious about this.

^ Or at the very least the line tool in paint, much neater and easier to see

 

[Incunabula]

Bump!

Why is this thread in PD, and not in ADD? I'm sure it would be updated more frequently there.

 

[white55]

and now in 2016 we have a rather long list of publicly available lysergamides, 2c-b-fly, 2c-b-an and various other goodies which [censored]

 

[Sir Ron Pib]

The second one is just an interesting lysergamide. I mean, there are already ETH-LAD, PRO-LAD, AL-LAD, CYP-LAD... why not IP-LAD (one with isopropyl at the 6-position)... and then just for kicks I modified the amide and added a propionyl to the aromatic nitrogen.

If I remember right IP-LAD is dropping in potency rather? I’d love to try PRO-LAD can see IP-LAD as quite likely being quite passable though

 

[cj187]

In animal drug discrimination tests, one isomer of chlorobutyllysergamide just as potent as its non-chlorinated analog, which happens to be about 50% more potent than LSD. Is there a reason haloalkyl tryptamines wouldn't also work? We've already seen most combinations of methyl, ethyl, propyl and isopropyl tryptamines, and now there are new cyclopropyl and allyl tryptamines coming out. Maybe the next step is to explore things like 4-HO-N-methyl-N-chloromethyltryptamine.

 

[Morninggloryseed]

^^^^^^

Girls go sterile just thinking about chlorinated lysergamides!! To me, chlorine at the 6 sounds juicier than n-alkyl, n-halo analogues.

 

[nepalnt21]

would be willing to make a small wager that 4-ho-pipt would be a real winner. the 4-ho'd versions of both dipt and dpt seem to have a high % of positive reviews, it'd be hard to imagine 4-ho-pipt being a dud, even if it takes many milligrams.

i'd also love to see 2-chloro-2'-oxo-pcp. prolly not a whopper in terms of potency, but i'd guess that it'd be quite favorable in its effects; short duration and overall amazing, i would think.

 

[bindingaffinity]

2'-Oxo-PCP could also be very interesting; I'm not aware of anyone having synthesized it (maybe fastandbulbous did but figured it was a dud). Or even 3-MeO-2'-Oxo-PCP...