The Big & Dandy 3-MeO-PCP Thread - Mad Manic Meo 3nity

[Bluuberry]

Well I smoke weed constantly so I guess I don't even think about that being a "combo" haha. To clarify, I meant I only enjoy high doses if I take benzos, to chill out the insanity that comes with taking a high enough dose of this to feel dissociated. I just prefer this one in the low end of the dose range most.

 

[MSK]

This is the main reason I snort low doses, it's so much easier to titrate. I don't like the effects very much when it hits me all at once. Mainly because I don't particularly enjoy the dissociation from this one, I take it for the mania. I'll give several small oral doses a try sometime and see if I like it better or worse. But I like to take 2-3mg in the nose, every 2 hours, until I reach 8-12mg.

Please, do it and report back! I'm always advising people about choosing oral VS snorted with the 3-MeO-PCP because of the so many profits, but it could be a subjective thing. If you feel and enjoy it at 2-3mg in the nose, have you even tried 3-5mg oral without redose? Maybe you'll find heaven, and don't fuck up your nose and don't need to deal with compulsivity? :D

 

[I B Profane]

Wow so I think my last post on Bluelight was almost two months ago, when I said "I have a lifetime supply of 3-Meo coming, it's about to be a fun summer!"

And if you've guessed that I've been on a wicked 3-Meo bender since then, well, you're not entirely incorrect. I've avoided dosing every day, of course....I do have responsibilities and the like that make daily dosing of this one a major no-no.

But I tell you what. 3-MeO-PCP is....just pure fucking magic. What a wonderful, wonderful drug. I really sincerely wish I had the time or energy to give a trip report of this past month and a half, but I'm tired and have work in the morning so I'll leave you all with this.

Since I got my 3-Meo-PCP roughly a month and a half ago, I've been taking it fairly frequently. I tried to not do more than 1-2x per week at the beginning. I still dont go deep with it more than once a week or so, but I've begun microdosing slightly more often (in doses of ~1-3mg) than I think I should be. I'd say on a given week, I go really deep with it maybe once (I'm talking 30-50mg throughout the course of the night, spaced out into bumps of ~10mg taken every hour or so), and I'll microdose an additional 2-3 days of the week. And I really don't know what to say about this compound other than that it's fucking magic. It's mania, it's bliss, it's everything I was promised and more. Part of me genuinely believes that microdosing this compound has genuinely made me a better, more insightful, happier, more creative, etc person. Another part of me knows that this is how dissociative addiction starts, and if I knew what was best for me I'd flush the stuff before it becomes a beast I can't control.

But I'm afraid it's a bit too late for that. I have really really done my best to not be TOO impressed with this stuff, and I've done my best to keep my doses infrequent enough, especially my high doses, that I feel there's no real damage being done here. Cognitively, I feel better than I've ever been, and people at work have noticed how much happier I seem, how much more I'm laughing and smiling and just generally being a good vibes-y, fun loving, relaxed, zen, and all around better person. My family's noticed it too. I even credit 3-meo-pcp with giving me the courage to ask this one amazing and beautiful girl on a date a few weeks ago. We really hit it off, and we've become very close :D not too bad, seeing as how I've been single for almost a year. Very very few people know that 3-Meo is what's facilitating it, the people who DO know are also going through a similar love affair with 3-Meo, because everybody who I've given this compound to has fallen in love with it. Some of my friends aren't dosing quite as frequently as me, I know a few of my friends are dosing even MORE frequently, but we all collectively agree that 3-meo-pcp is the shit.

While it is indeed the shit, I absolutely sense darkness lurking around the corner if I don't tread lightly. I'm certain that if you abuse this one, it will eventually abuse the fuck out of you. I've been toe-ing the line between recreational, medicinal, therapeutic, spiritual, and legitimate use....as well as perhaps mild abuse, if I'm being honest with myself. Who even knows? Who's to say whether this bump or that bump or the next is gonna be the one that either solves all my problems, or sends me into a manic-depressive spiral? I keep telling myself I'm gonna take a break for at least two or three weeks, but having so much of it on hand just makes it too easy to say, "eh, why not?" I'm sure that I will end up taking a break, I need to be super sharp for school in the fall and would rather not have a mild dissociative dependency lingering around while trying to navigate school (at the best university in my state, nonetheless...I absolutely need to keep my grades up. Thank god for Modafinil, nootropics, and occasional amphetamine use!)

I abstained for a week and a half near the beginning of June. I didn't have any withdrawals, and the cravings were actually pretty minimal since I was keeping myself busy. I'm telling everyone right now: this is a fun, amazing, mind blowing chemical, it is seriously one of the best that I've ever tried. But it is also REALLY easy to get carried away with, so to echo everybody else in the thread: proceed with EXTREME caution.

One last thing: the other night I tried 3-meo-pcp + DMT. WOW, what a combo! It was easily the best DMT trip I've ever had, out of what is now probably over a hundred DMT trips. The 3-meo diminished the anxiety and body load, but added to the depth and color and overall trippyness and alienness of the experience. The elves threw me the best party they've ever thrown me, and the very next day I met the lady who I currently have a thing with...fate? Idk, you tell me. I'm going to bed, as I feel a bit sleep deprived, but hey, to every one of my disstronauts: I love you, and stay safe out there.

 

[vortech]

*Slow Clap*

Congrats I B Profane, it sounds like you have tamed the treemeow beast, and thank you for sharing. Your post is likely the most magically inspiring thing I will read today. I look forward to reading full trip reports! Adding the DMT combo to my short list of 'things I need to do before I die'.

 

[Xorkoth]

Please, do it and report back! I'm always advising people about choosing oral VS snorted with the 3-MeO-PCP because of the so many profits, but it could be a subjective thing. If you feel and enjoy it at 2-3mg in the nose, have you even tried 3-5mg oral without redose? Maybe you'll find heaven, and don't fuck up your nose and don't need to deal with compulsivity? :D

The thing is I get to the magical place by redosing 3-4 times, the first dose is alright but it builds. Anyway I'll try, it's arriving today. Probably won't try today though.

 

[MSK]

The thing is I get to the magical place by redosing 3-4 times, the first dose is alright but it builds. Anyway I'll try, it's arriving today. Probably won't try today though.

I admire your willpower. I'm a bit like what I B Profane described before. Took this with caution the first month, and am doing it more often that I would love nowadays, though the doses are lower as weeks advance and try not to binge, sparing the use as most as I can. Now I'm on a 3 days break that feels like a year

I find this one boosts my humor and self confidence to the top! Really really addictive feeling, hard to refuse to do it everyday as I only receive negative feedback from the substance if I do a high dose.

BTW, I insist. You redose, for a total of... Let's say 10mg? Take half that oral, the experience should be similar if not superior, and it doesn't really hits you on the face, it increases potency smoothly on your body and mind like good LSD, letting you to adapt to the experience... Without even noticing you'll be in the top of the world for a good 3-4h (plus the loooong comedown we all are aware off! Enjoyable for me, BTW... More enjoyable than beeing awake all night because of any stimulant) :D

P.S.: I want to add this one seems to be the only disso that confronts me with myself, instead of beeing an escape valve. It puts in front on my face all my real life problems and force me to search a solution to them, or a switch on attitude to them without any fears. In that way, is more psychedelic for me than any "real" psychedelic never was.

 

[pharmakos]

xorkoth, do you eyeball your little snorted doses?

 

[Xorkoth]

I admire your willpower. I'm a bit like what I B Profane described before. Took this with caution the first month, and am doing it more often that I would love nowadays, though the doses are lower as weeks advance and try not to binge, sparing the use as most as I can. Now I'm on a 3 days break that feels like a year

I find this one boosts my humor and self confidence to the top! Really really addictive feeling, hard to refuse to do it everyday as I only receive negative feedback from the substance if I do a high dose.

BTW, I insist. You redose, for a total of... Let's say 10mg? Take half that oral, the experience should be similar if not superior, and it doesn't really hits you on the face, it increases potency smoothly on your body and mind like good LSD, letting you to adapt to the experience... Without even noticing you'll be in the top of the world for a good 3-4h (plus the loooong comedown we all are aware off! Enjoyable for me, BTW... More enjoyable than beeing awake all night because of any stimulant) :D

P.S.: I want to add this one seems to be the only disso that confronts me with myself, instead of beeing an escape valve. It puts in front on my face all my real life problems and force me to search a solution to them, or a switch on attitude to them without any fears. In that way, is more psychedelic for me than any "real" psychedelic never was.

Interesting, I'll try. FYI, for me, when I do my snorted bumps, there is never any dissociation (desirable to me) and it feels good right away but it slowly builds up until the mania fully hits around 6 hours or so in. Then it lasts until I go to sleep no matter how long that is, and I feel good the next day too, but much less acutely. There's never any downside or unpleasantness at any point, it's just a gradual return to normalcy.

xorkoth, do you eyeball your little snorted doses?

Yeah, at first I didn't but a variance of a mg or 2 doesn't bother me and it's a pain in the ass to get my scale out every time or pre-weigh tiny amounts in gel caps or something.

 

[Dissocrafting]

I find this one boosts my humor and self confidence to the top! Really really addictive feeling, hard to refuse to do it everyday as I only receive negative feedback from the substance if I do a high dose.

I totally agree with this. I feel like I can't really control my use, since when I'm sober and have done all my chores, I can't find a reason not to take a small dose to get that great 3-MeO-PCP mood going again. When dosing hard, comedowns feel really awful, I'm walking around my place 5AM thinking did I mess something up, as I can't really trust myself when really high on this chemical.. not being able to sleep or do anything with a purpose, just trying to get some sleep. But next day I feel fine and think to myself.. maybe just a little bump?

Nasal dosing seems to be more addictive for me. It's so easy to sniff 3-7mg lines throughout the day and never really come back to baseline for days. When waking up in the morning, there's always some leftovers on my piece of glass I use for dosing, ready to be sniffed up to my nose. With oral administration, it's more complex and so harder to abuse. If I try to cheat myself to think I'm taking some kind of long lasting psychedelic substance, I'm more cautious about taking it. If I sniff it like ketamine, coke or another drug that's easy to abuse with nasal administration, I tend to treat it like them, not caring about the long lasting effects I get from 3-MeO-PCP. Just to trick my brain though, I don't think oral dosing saves anybody from harms of drug use/abuse.

Some of you have mentioned sublingual dosing, how do you feel about it compared to ingesting? If this is already discussed here, I'm happy if somebody points me to right direction.

Just coming down from 10mg, second dose of this day, both nasal and 6 hours in between them. I guess I'm having a massive tolerance, since 10mg feels like a dose I can go to grocery store with and it's not enough for a day.. 15-25mg feels right daily dose right now.. have to get a decent break, and I will soon.

Again.. great topic.. love you guys! This thing happening with this chemical is something amazing.. or maybe I'm totally fucked up, not sure which.

 

[MSK]

@Xorkoth:

Maybe your dosages oral were too high? If you took your usual nasal dose, it would feel a lot more dissociating than what you're used to. I also can't feel any comedown or bad side effect from low oral doses without redose I think the high you're after with the snorted route could easily be reproduced (and in my case, improved) with lower oral doses.

I won't tell you anything you doesn't already know about eyeballing this, or whatever other stuff. You know the risks, you take them, I respect that! If you weren't a long time experienced drug user I would be putting my hands on the head reading that xP Maybe it's working for you, because, again, potency snorted is waaaaaaaaay lower than oral

@Dissocrafting:

I'm totally with you on everything. I also need to trick myself with this one for not abusing, and snorting really aids to starting a long binge. Last week I was doing it nearly everyday, and it was because I switched from my usual oral dose to a little bump, that lead to another little bump, and another one the next day, and after, and after... I needed to give my disso stash to my housemate and tell him to not return it to me until 5th May to be able to do a little break, I can't by myself once I start that kind of spiral down to the permanent hole. Oral I'm able to spare usage at least once or twice a week, as the experience also fills my soul for some days.

3-MeO-PCP really IS something amazing, you're not fucked up In all my years of drug abuse, and after taking all the RC's and classic drugs I could (Just name it, all kind of stimulants, dissociatives, opiates, phenetilamines, tryptamines, and GABA or serotonin related stuff) I didn't though any new substance I could try could impress me. Well, this is the second time I'm wrong. First MXE hit me in the soul, and now this one just blew my mind! It gives a range of physical and mental effects, all highly possitive, than any other could dream to produce. Smoked cocaine/meth/heroin are miles behind this. Fuck, from all the dissos I tried, this is the king. Fuck K, fuck MXE, fuck 2-OxO-PCx, fuck -phenidines. Fuck weed, alcohol and benzos for beeing able to carry on with this boring life... 3-MeO-PCP forever!

 

[Xorkoth]

Yeah I mean it's just hard to weigh out 2-3mg on a cheap scale, and I've weighed larger (7-12mg) doses plenty of times. I could do liquid measurement but it's not convenient for snorting. It's pretty easy for me to determine what an appropriate (tiny) dose is by eyeballing. I don't do it with much of anything else, because most of the time I'm going for, say, 20mg of something, which is a lot harder to eyeball than a little 1-3mg bump. Whether I get 1,2 , or 3mg, it's all relatively the same when snorting low doses of this.

I am on my third small dose. I'll be taking one more in 2 hours or so. I feel the euphoria creeping in already... can't wait for band practice.

Maybe next time I'll try it orally and see how it's different. If indeed oral is stronger (as I find it to be with MXE), it may just be that my dose was too high, because I think I did 10mg the time I tried it. It wasn't bad, I just felt a little out of sorts for the first half and conversation wasn't flowing, and music sounded tinny and strange. These are things that never happen with my low-dose snorted experiments.

 

[MSK]

Yeah I mean it's just hard to weigh out 2-3mg on a cheap scale, and I've weighed larger (7-12mg) doses plenty of times. I could do liquid measurement but it's not convenient for snorting. It's pretty easy for me to determine what an appropriate (tiny) dose is by eyeballing. I don't do it with much of anything else, because most of the time I'm going for, say, 20mg of something, which is a lot harder to eyeball than a little 1-3mg bump. Whether I get 1,2 , or 3mg, it's all relatively the same when snorting low doses of this.

I am on my third small dose. I'll be taking one more in 2 hours or so. I feel the euphoria creeping in already... can't wait for band practice.

Maybe next time I'll try it orally and see how it's different. If indeed oral is stronger (as I find it to be with MXE), it may just be that my dose was too high, because I think I did 10mg the time I tried it. It wasn't bad, I just felt a little out of sorts for the first half and conversation wasn't flowing, and music sounded tinny and strange. These are things that never happen with my low-dose snorted experiments.

Yeah I feel you, I also prefer the higher dosages of this one (which I find is +10mg for me) I take it for beeing closed in my room without anyone else. At less than 10mg it turns out to be like a fucking different chemical, really similar to snorted but a more powerful and obvious mania, at least for me. Maybe for you 5mg is the sweet spot to find nirvana ;P I promise I won't insist again, as I feel I'm starting to be a bit annoying with the oral thing xDDD

 

[Xorkoth]

I simply don't find this to be that agreeable to me as an actual dissociative... if I want to journey inward and find magical states, I go for MXE or something else like that. For me, this is best used as a subtle energetic manipulator, as something to take threshold doses of to produce a state of euphoric hypomania, an enhanced sobriety. Even 5mg is more than I want to use in a single dose, even in the nose. I just don't particularly enjoy the dissociation from it, it feels kind of harsh and content-less. Contrast that with MXE, where the dissociation feels wonderful and my mind shoots off in all directions and everything feels magical. However, MXE doesn't produce that glorious state of hypomania that this does. So, for me, they're two entirely different chemicals with 2 entirely different uses.

 

[pharmakos]

i've got a friend that takes this stuff orally by mixing it in a drink and drinking it slowly over the course of an hour or two. he claims it works better that way. i haven't had a chance to try it yet.

 

[crmt28]

Measuring this one with a Gemini-20 scale is completely impossible if you want to take less than 10mg.

Most of the time, when putting a small quantity of powder in the tray, it doesn't register anything in the scale. It just stays at 0.000g.
And when it works, the scale just turns off while measuring, so I have to scrape the powder (which sticks everywhere), turn the scale on, and put it back on the scale again.

Not a big deal, right? Nope. When putting it back again, sometimes it's 2~3mg under or even OVER. But most of the times it magically goes back to absolutely zero, even with a significant amount of powder on it.

After the scale turning off 3 times, that's when I give up and just lick the tray knowing that I have a safe dose on it.

(The scale is properly calibrated and not broken. It works just fine with stuff around 15mg (with a bit of difficulty) and anything over 25mg is very accurate.)

 

[psy997]

Turn on the G-20 without the tray on it, put the tray on, remember the number, then add powder. It works better for small doses that way.

 

[crmt28]

Turn on the G-20 without the tray on it, put the tray on, remember the number, then add powder. It works better for small doses that way.

Yup, I've tried that, it doesn't change much.

 

[Xorkoth]

The method described works for me with the Gemini-20. I mean I still can't weigh doses smaller than say 4mg very very reliably at all, but most scales work best when they're halfway to their capacity, and they work less well on the low and high ends.

 

[Xorkoth]

I had my first 3-meo day yesterday... did my little bumps throughout the day. I did get a little dissociated and I felt it got in the way of the positive effects somewhat, but it was still a great day and we played some cool music, through a nice twist of fate some of my band members cancelled practice so the rest of us worked on our other project which is a purely creative jamming thing. I had a bit of physical difficulty with it though, my fingers weren't cooperating at 100% although I was probably at 80% (though conceptually I was aided). From previous experiences I remember though that this regimen works best when done for several days in a row, after which the benefits linger on for a bit. When I'm fully there after multiple days, I feel like my mind-body connection is working at greater than 100% of normal capacity and the ideas flow effortlessly and seamlessly from my brain through my hands. So, today I'm going to do the same. I just had my second bump, I'm going for even smaller bumps today since I don't want to feel any dissociation at all. I've got nice plans to finish up work very early (quite soon!) and go to Home Depot to get some more materials to finish installing the screen doors I built on my 2 sets of french doors. Then later I'm going to meet up with my girl and we're going to go see her friend perform music, and then maybe go to another show afterwards. And tomorrow I'm going to go visit this same friend out in her and her boyfriend's mountain cabin and go swimming and hiking all day.

One thing I have to watch for is that 3-MeO mania makes me more compulsive, especially towards nicotine.

 

[vortech]

In a perfect future when these things are legalized for human consumption, I envision drinks that contain for instance 5 milligrams each. Or for MXE I imagine 25 milligrams per drink. 1drink per two hours for social enhancement, 2 for getting psychedelic drunk and 3 for only for at-home exploration. The warning label would have to be pretty in-depth though!