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December Getting/Staying Clean and Sober Thread v. Happy Holidays!

I know it's against the religion, not sure if it's full on illegal. But they're definitely harsh on the laws, so I'll be extremely careful!!
 
it is full on illegal...they practice sharia law...wghich is no seperation between church and state
 
Well I know my dad drinks, so there are certainly ways around it. That being said, drinking isn't one of my bigger vices anyway
 
Yes alcohol is completely illegal in Saudi Arabia. It's tolerated in the expat compounds, though, so a lot of foreigners continue to drink when they're over there on business.
 
My dad's a native, but my family's pretty wealthy over there. It's just like America - those with money and power can circumvent the rules

And glad to hear it CH - I stayed in bed myself as long as physically possible this morning and it felt good. Keep it up man, we can all get through this. I need to beat this before I go anywhere - you can't run from your demons, halfway around the world or otherwise
 
Yeah, I hear you there! Sometimes I feel like just taking a break from the "real" world and being with family might help

I don't know man, it gets pretty overwhelming. I'm 37 years old, which means I'm right smack in the middle with no relief on either end in sight. Too old to be a student and expect my family to take care of things, but too young to expect things to slow down any time soon. I'm trying so hard to maintain and be a functional, independent "adult," but a big part of me wants to just play the nervous breakdown card and take a month or two off from everything!
 
you do not want a psychotic break, nervous breakdown, or any of their friends.....the psychward is no fun.
 
Merry Christmas from a recovering opiate addict.

I think I picked the wrong time of the year quit, again. But as of this posting I am seven days free of those nasty little pills that have dominated a large part of my life. Didn't taper. Just stopped cold from a 100mg/day hydrocodone habbit. As anyone who has gone through this knows, the first few days are the worst, and enduring the sleepless nights wrought with horrible RLS more than once almost lured me back to those pills. But I suffered through the first two nights and then got a hold of some Gabapentin, which almost completely neutralized the RLS.

Flushed all my remaining pills down the toilet and, this time, plan to stay opiate free. Those pills are truly insidious. My addiction grew from acceptable usage for valid reasons...Just tooo damn easy to get hooked on those things.
 
its any opiate man...they are all tricky and will play tricks on your mind. You are in the right spot. Lots of hope around here......just remember. Don't sweat the petty stuff, only pet the sweaty stuff.
 
JustaMike: Welcome to BL!! 7 days clean is awesome!! It doesn't sound like you picked the wrong time of year to me... since you are successfully off those evil pills. I am once again trying to quit... my habit is very much comparable to what yours was, but the physical symptoms are my barriers.
Anyway... glad you posted!
 
Captain.Heroin said:
True!

I think even alcohol use is illegal over there so be careful.
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I believe there are certain areas you can drink in Dubai, but its very regulated. Not only is it against Islam, but its also a matter of respecting the culture. That being said, people from the Emirates are some of the best people I have ever dealt with. Arabs tend to be super fucking friendly.

Saudi is a different story, its illegal all over, I have heard certain areas its tolerated within reason but public drunkenness is very disrespectful.

Most Westerners get in trouble over in the Middle East when they try to ignore or break the rules, we have to remember that the ME is a very slow moving and conservative culture that is very pious. Nothing wrong with that, its how they have lived for a very long time. Anybody remember DJ Grooverider getting arrested? He was basically being a dumbass, he tried to bring in porn and a few joints.
 
^^^honestly I thnk they have it right with alcohol being "forbidden". Alcohol causes a lot of societies ills, and I am sure throughout the centuries they have watched western and eastern cultures fall victim to its allure...so much so that it is even part of daily rituals.

They still have a long ways to go with women's lib, but in dubai they are building one of the most beautiful cities I have ever seen. If you cannot respect their tenacity and industriousness then you sir have no respect.

I made it through christmas. Sweetzoe gave me some insight on talking to my son that was surely needed. I have a lot of respect of that woman. Very intelligent...and beautiful.
 
They still have a long ways to go with women's lib, but in dubai they are building one of the most beautiful cities I have ever seen. If you cannot respect their tenacity and industriousness then you sir have no respect.
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The deplorable conditions of the workers makes me dislike the city.

3rd world disguising itself as 1st.
 
How do people deal with the psychological addiction to opiates?

I'm approaching 10 days without opiates and the last vestiges of the physical withdrawal are pretty much gone, and they weren't that bad to begin with (compared to what other people have dealt with...if anything I just kept myself running on self-loathing for putting myself in the position of being a dopesick druggie...too much "white trash pride", as a friend of mine puts it). Yeah I felt like crap, but I'm used to feeling like crap just because of my own physiology. So that's pretty much concluded.

The psychological addiction is intense, though. I've come to the conclusion that the only reason I'm not out there banging dope is because I don't have access where I'm currently living. I never believed it before I started IVing but there's a perverse fascination with that particular ROA...I find myself fantasizing about drawing up that golden liquid into a rig, registering the vein and watching the drug get stained crimson with blood, before pressing the plunger down and *boom* It's actually really disturbing and I've never really dealt with it before. It's partially about the rush, which is a big part of the appeal, but not entirely about the high that results from shooting. I smoke more than I shoot (the smoking ROA being part of my "treatment" for my own insomnia, which usually involved a combination of cannabis, a few hits of heroin & zolpidem...shooting always got me too high for real sleep, oddly enough) but there's no fetish involved in smoking for me, although the thought of a few hits of acrid tar vapor makes me practically salivate at the moment.

It's odd because shooting always made me feel bad on a "spiritual level" but I CAN'T STOP THINKING ABOUT IT! Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh! :(8(
 
Burnt Offerings said:
How do people deal with the psychological addiction to opiates?

I'm approaching 10 days without opiates and the last vestiges of the physical withdrawal are pretty much gone, and they weren't that bad to begin with (compared to what other people have dealt with...if anything I just kept myself running on self-loathing for putting myself in the position of being a dopesick druggie...too much "white trash pride", as a friend of mine puts it). Yeah I felt like crap, but I'm used to feeling like crap just because of my own physiology. So that's pretty much concluded.

The psychological addiction is intense, though. I've come to the conclusion that the only reason I'm not out there banging dope is because I don't have access where I'm currently living. I never believed it before I started IVing but there's a perverse fascination with that particular ROA...I find myself fantasizing about drawing up that golden liquid into a rig, registering the vein and watching the drug get stained crimson with blood, before pressing the plunger down and *boom* It's actually really disturbing and I've never really dealt with it before. It's partially about the rush, which is a big part of the appeal, but not entirely about the high that results from shooting. I smoke more than I shoot (the smoking ROA being part of my "treatment" for my own insomnia, which usually involved a combination of cannabis, a few hits of heroin & zolpidem...shooting always got me too high for real sleep, oddly enough) but there's no fetish involved in smoking for me, although the thought of a few hits of acrid tar vapor makes me practically salivate at the moment.

It's odd because shooting always made me feel bad on a "spiritual level" but I CAN'T STOP THINKING ABOUT IT! Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh! :(8(
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For real though have you tried maintenance meds?
 
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