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Is anyone else feeling it?

Nuttynutskin, you seem to take all the negativity as truth, but give no appreciation to righteous deeds that happen beveryday without news broadcast. Did you not consider that perhaps the exact reason I speak of positivity is to give balance to a profoundly pessimistic tone?
 
nuttynutskin said:
Get your head out of the clouds and just look at what the hell is going on in the world.
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That is how you contribute to the negative timeline playing out.

You place your vote energetically. That is how this world is run behind the scenes or from the causal level. By our combined free wills. So by paying attention to the news and getting emotionally drawn into it you're unconsciously giving your vote.

I didn't say it would make wordly sense, just that is the esoteric reality behind it, which we're moulded to ridicule. You're forgetting this world is just an illusion.
 
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vortech said:
Nuttynutskin, you seem to take all the negativity as truth, but give no appreciation to righteous deeds that happen beveryday without news broadcast. Did you not consider that perhaps the exact reason I speak of positivity is to give balance to a profoundly pessimistic tone?
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Positivity is fine but I don't buy all this global healing prophecy malarkey. If you actually pay attention to what's really going on in the world then it's not too hard to see how erroneous it is. I think we're all either going to eventually run out of resources or everyone is going to splatter each other's blood everywhere before there's some sort of new age global peace movement brought about by who knows what. Personally I'd find the second option more exhilarating anyways, or at least it would beat starving to death. Or maybe if there is a god he can get moving with the second coming and do what he should've done a long time ago.

Ninae said:
That is how you contribute to the negative timeline playing out.

You place your vote energetically. That is how this world is run behind the scenes or from the causal level. By our combined free wills. So by paying attention to the news and getting emotionally drawn into it you're unconsciously giving your vote.
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So maybe if I just bury my head in the sand and listen to new age ramblings the bad things in the world will just go away? lol
 
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I believe in the power of positivity, because I see it in action all the time... I am positive and thus I attract positivity and see the positivity in the world. It's a personal thing, it makes my life better and hopefully it rubs off on some other people through me and makes their lives better, and hopefully it rubs off of THEM and makes some other peoples' lives better, and so on. I don't buy into the stuff that's being said here about some higher power organizing events though. We have responsibility for our own outcome, through our own means, attitudes and actions. This is just what I choose to do with my little part of it and it works for me. I choose not to watch the news because it depresses me, because indeed, a lot of terrible things are going on in the world. But a lot of good things are going on too and without the negativity filling my head it's not hard to see it. I also moved to a place where I feel a lot more positivity from the average person for the same reasons, because now I'm surrounded by like-minded people who don't inspire negative feelings in me.

There's not much I can do about conflicts around the world or social problems, all I can do is try to be a good influence on people (like my cousin who has turned into a raging homophobe/racist/hate-filled person, I do my best to influence him towards being more rational and loving, without preaching to him or otherwise turning him off to my input).
 
Our thoughts are creative. Our imagination is creative. Our will is creative. And our emotions empower all of it.
 
Ninae said:
It's all to do with the collective consciousness and its power to affect events.
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And whether collective consciousness has any power at all. I think the jury is out on that TBPH. They never could levitate the Pentagon.

Nutty said:
I don't know if you've ever considered getting a job as a psychic but if you have I'd recommend rethinking that.
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=D

I think that is something I too find hard to accept. It really does not seem that world is somehow getting better. Quite the opposite. I admit, I am borderline misanthropic so my views are perhaps obscured by that, but I just see no evidence at all that the world is becoming more positive. Sure, it may have to get worse before it gets better, but I really see no reason to believe this. Basic human nature has not changed in millenia. I'd love to see a change; I think we can change and become better, more complete people, but I think we need to do a lot of work for that. And, from what I see, we simply are not changing.

Belieiving that a magical battle is being waged for our hearts and minds seems to be another attempt by people to outsource responsibility for their choices. Believing that our inner world is the staging ground for a revolutionary ascension (to where?) denies the decline our external world has been sufferring for at least 150 years, for which we humans are responsible. I've said this before; from what I can tell, no-one is going to come and save us. No-one is going to take us out of our shitty lives and place us in company of angels. The only way out of this is through effort and action on our parts, not something ambiguous and nonsensical as positive energy. Sure, positivity is great, but simply thinking something is not going to work. We need to start DOING things.
 
That is also what many are saying. That any sort of saviour programming is false and we need to do it ourselves by releasing our negativity and changing from within.

However, positive action, thoughts, and feelings go together and are all important, and I was talking more about how our consciousness affect the "hologram" or seeming world around us.

"We are slowed down sound and light waves, a walking bundle of frequencies tuned into the cosmos. We are souls dressed up in sacred biochemical garments and our bodies are the instruments through which our souls play their music."

(Albert Einstein)
 
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Nobody is coming to save you from yourself. It never fails to amaze me how much we're aware of without realizing we're aware of it. I for one am Forrest Gumping my way through this. These paths are getting well walked and paved by others though. Never a better time to start studying the inner workings of your experience and see where it takes you. I for one look forward to Ninaes sometimes mysterious comments on the happenings beyond. I started my journey of self-discovery 14 years ago the more traditional way and so I find myself rather surprised it has taken a turn towards discussing saturn cubes in a drug forum so I can ascend. The irony is not lost on me. Gotta smile, I trust where my journey is taking me. I can handle the many disillusionments to come. Those have always been there.

Plenty of reasons to be disheartened as always, but I'm feeling just the opposite. Still gotta walk this path. I suppose scanning the news for signs of progress is one way of doing that, but seems like the long road to me. I guess given enough time that might start becoming a bit more fruitful as well.
 
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Xorkoth said:
I believe in the power of positivity, because I see it in action all the time... I am positive and thus I attract positivity and see the positivity in the world. It's a personal thing, it makes my life better and hopefully it rubs off on some other people through me and makes their lives better, and hopefully it rubs off of THEM and makes some other peoples' lives better, and so on.
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It rubs off on me. Thanks man. :)

I have the exact same reasoning as you, expect you'd have to replace "positivity" by "kindness" in those sentences. But I don't see why I couldn't apply it to positivity also.

I also don't watch the news because they depress me.
 
You could say there are now two schools of thought about this.

One says the 3rd and 4th dimensions are about to collapse into the 5fth, so we'll experience instant enlightenment, and there will be things like alien landings, crystal ascencion chambers, and re-distribution of funds. The other talks about a more slow and gradual transformation we'll bring about ourselves, one by one, and then some amazing things might come from that.

To me the latter seems more likely, but I feel a great sense of uncertainity about what's to come, and don't think anyone really knows.
 
Ninae said:
One says the 3rd and 4th dimensions are about to collapse into the 5fth
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So a cube will collapse into a tesseract, and a tesseract into its 5-dimensional analogue. Interesting. :)

Now imagine if you consider time being a dimension of its own, another kind of dimension than spatial dimensions, and that it collapsed into its n-analogues...
 
Xorkoth, to reflect your last post 'Destiny is in the Hands of (Wo)Man'.

With that said, I will cap that off with Mark 3:35.


I hope everyone takes in and reflects the good vibes today!
 
So a cube will collapse into a tesseract, and a tesseract into its 5-dimensional analogue. Interesting.
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Your reasoning assumes commensurate spatial dimension. You can try that mental exercise again given the appropriate definition of the dimensions. Good luck with that. Ninae has already provided a link. I'll quickly summarize. 4th is the astral plane. You know, where you go when you go out of body. Demons and angels. The "don't hate the playa, hate the game" dimension. Christianity calls this the mid-plane. 5th dimension is one of light and miracles. That's the enlightenment I seek personally.

Those are the premises, take em' or leave em'. Nothing new historically speaking. Try folding that on graphing paper. :)

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_dimensionshyperdimensions02.htm
 
Unfortunately I have discovered all of the channels and sources I've been referring to are some kind of psyop/misinformation/confusion campaign. Yes, even the best ones, so be careful.

However, there also has to be a lot of truth to something in order for it to be accepted these days, as people are more discerning. So it's not that you can't find any truth or good advice in there, it's more the things that aren't true that is the problem. And typically this has to do with dates and timelines to disillusion and disencourage people and make them give up.

Well, they can just keep doing that, I don't care. I'll still keep seeking. There's almost nothing I have trust in any more apart from the Prosveta material (which is verifiably high quality).
 
Ninae said:
Unfortunately I have discovered all of the channels and sources I've been referring to are some kind of psyop/misinformation/confusion campaign. Yes, even the best ones, so be careful.
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How did you discover that?
 
A combination of it coming up plainly in research and no longer being so "third eye blind". There is simply no doubt.
 
You guys need to bring it back to Earth. Realistically we ain't all ascending to 5d or crazy stuff like that. I believe the shift will be more subtle. But that is not to say the end result won't be great. Think Butterfly effect, chaos theory. A small injection of new energy into the system if it is the most righteous energy, is all that is needed to cascade great change creating an army of Star Children Awake who use intuitive understanding to light the middle path, paved with good intentions and walked with good deeds. Their message will wake up more Star Children, and feedback loop will reach critical mass before the sleeping even notice.
 
Bringing back to earth + Star Children = does not compute.
 
Yep. More spiritually orientated people tend to have weak grounding and be more open on top. But I kind of like it like that and encourage it.
 
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